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[joe breezy]

If Hibs win the Scottish Cup it would be better if they stayed up for a season to rub their noses in it...

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Only 50.08% now ... Come on hibees, we're losing the "let them die" initiative

Internet polls - there to be shot at. Yam infiltration and before you know it the evening news produce an unrepresentational? article.

[HFC 0-7]

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If Hibs win the Scottish Cup it would be better if they stayed up for a season to rub their noses in it...

No it wouldn't, it would be better if all those jambos had witnessed their club going down the tubes, being broken up and sold then having to watch us beat Celtic and lift the cup knowing that their club, now dead, will never have their name on that cup ever again!

Years down the line some bitter jambo rambling to a young football fan "ah big team, heart of Midlothian, we pumped hibs 5-1 in the cup". Only for the young football fan to reply, "heart of Midlothian? Never heard of them". Leaving the bitter jambo wallowing in now almost extinct memories and pish ridden clothes.

[blackpoolhibs]

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I think the spl's worry at the moment is that they will go pop. They know they have to deduct points but they will know that if they relegate them, they will go pop and the spl will be blamed for them going pop.

they will be weighing up the options that give them the least grief. Let them away with it and have the circus through closed season and possibly start of next season, or,relegate them and be blamed for their demise. Personally I would be happy to relegate myself and be branded as the one that destroyed hearts!

Its sod all to do with the SPL, the reason they are in this mess is all down to Romanov. The rules are in place NOW, the folk in charge at the SFA have the tools to make this disappear from their main product.

Failure to do so will have the media all over this again, and when they finally get liquidated, the mess it will cause will be exactly like last season.

And if that happens mid season we will have a league with 11 clubs in it.Can you imagine the trouble that will cause?

The league will be a bigger shambles that our media and support portray it now.

Get them tae **** now, the rules are there in black and white, its the best and right option.

[Sylar]

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You're right, but a perfect fit for our Gorgie Chums

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Just the right chap for Hearts then.

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He'd fit right in at Hearts then.

Great minds gentlemen, great minds

[HFC 0-7]

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Its sod all to do with the SPL, the reason they are in this mess is all down to Romanov. The rules are in place NOW, the folk in charge at the SFA have the tools to make this disappear from their main product.

Failure to do so will have the media all over this again, and when they finally get liquidated, the mess it will cause will be exactly like last season.

And if that happens mid season we will have a league with 11 clubs in it.Can you imagine the trouble that will cause?

The league will be a bigger shambles that our media and support portray it now.

Get them tae **** now, the rules are there in black and white, its the best and right option.

I know it's sod all to do with the spl, but all the jambos, hearts media, and all the rangers journous out there that want the spl painted in a bad light will blame the spl.

[blackpoolhibs]

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I know it's sod all to do with the spl, but all the jambos, hearts media, and all the rangers journous out there that want the spl painted in a bad light will blame the spl.

The sevco media will only paint the SPL in a bad light should they not hammer Hearts. Hearts and all the jambos have been squealing like pigs since Romanov came to the club, why are you bothered about that?

[HFC 0-7]

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The sevco media will only paint the SPL in a bad light should they not hammer Hearts. Hearts and all the jambos have been squealing like pigs since Romanov came to the club, why are you bothered about that?

PICK am not bothered by it, what I am bothered about is the spl and there inability to deal with things properly. I was just putting it out there that the spl don't like confrontation and usually go down the avenue of least resistance.

[Ozyhibby]

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If Hibs win the Scottish Cup it would be better if they stayed up for a season to rub their noses in it...

I won't need them in the SPL for that.

[Gus Fring]

Whatever happens today is not good news for Hearts even if it is spun as such. If no points penalty is applied today the Yams will see this as a victory and it isn't. I know we keep saying it but Hearts really aren't able to survive. If they stay in the SPL they're relative dominance will be non-existent.

[Off the bar]

"@BBCBMcLauchlin: SPL board meeting to discuss Hearts situation underway at Hampden #bbcsportscot"

[Gus Fring]

As a side note the current SPL Board is made up of

Ralph Topping (SPL Chairman)
Neil Doncaster (SPL Chief Executive)
Eric Riley (Celtic FC)
Stephen Thompson (Dundee United FC)
Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen FC)
Michael Johnston (Kilmarnock FC)

How do we think each of them is going to feel about how Hearts have behaved?

[MyJo]

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"@BBCBMcLauchlin: SPL board meeting to discuss Hearts situation underway at Hampden #bbcsportscot"

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[#FromTheCapital]

May not be a decison today according to STV http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/h...ny-insolvency/

[MB62]

IMO, there will be no decision made today on the Yams plight. All we will get is a statement from the SPL saying that no decision was made and cannot be made until they are in possession of the full facts (which might be never).

Sporting integrity was the catch phrase banded about with Oldco and is still every bit as relevant today, but doubt we will hear any mention of it.

[jodjam]

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As a side note the current SPL Board is made up of

Ralph Topping (SPL Chairman)
Neil Doncaster (SPL Chief Executive)
Eric Riley (Celtic FC)
Stephen Thompson (Dundee United FC)
Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen FC)
Michael Johnston (Kilmarnock FC)

How do we think each of them is going to feel about how Hearts have behaved?

The chairman is "one of our own" ;)

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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The chairman is "one of our own" ;)

Who has the casting vote.... ;)

[Paisley Hibby]

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As a side note the current SPL Board is made up of

Ralph Topping (SPL Chairman)
Neil Doncaster (SPL Chief Executive)
Eric Riley (Celtic FC)
Stephen Thompson (Dundee United FC)
Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen FC)
Michael Johnston (Kilmarnock FC)

How do we think each of them is going to feel about how Hearts have behaved?

As they don't HAVE to dock points then I think their first consideration will be how much money will my club lose if they go down? And that's what will probably decide the outome.

[Bristolhibby]

The Huns and their media will be in uproar if Hearts survive.

They very much see Hearts situation as the same as theirs (even if its not), and they will want a similar "lack of compassion" applied.

The SPL have got to realise that if the deductions are not applied now there is a genuine possibility that Hearts will fold mid season. Then instead of being a SFL plroblem it will remain an SPL problem.

Better the swift knife stroke now than a long and uncertain death next season.

Also if I were a Jambo I wouldn't want to get relegated the season they The The Rangers were in the same league, as it would mean two years (if they survive) in Div 1.

J

[Mikey]

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May not be a decison today according to STV http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/h...ny-insolvency/

Can't really see how they could interpret this any other way than what it says on the tin.........

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...body-says.html

[HibeeMG]

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The Huns and their media will be in uproar if Hearts survive.

They very much see Hearts situation as the same as theirs (even if its not), and they will want a similar "lack of compassion" applied.

The SPL have got to realise that if the deductions are not applied now there is a genuine possibility that Hearts will fold mid season. Then instead of being a SFL plroblem it will remain an SPL problem.

Better the swift knife stroke now than a long and uncertain death next season.

Also if I were a Jambo I wouldn't want to get relegated the season they The The Rangers were in the same league, as it would mean two years (if they survive) in Div 1.

J

A couple of things to note with this is that it's looking likely that the SPL and SFL will have merged so the problem won't really be shifted.

Also, if Hearts and The Rangers are in the Divison 1 together there will probably be play-offs for a second promotion spot so they would still have a chance to get promoted.

That's if they get that far of course.

[Gus Fring]

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As they don't HAVE to dock points then I think their first consideration will be how much money will my club lose if they go down? And that's what will probably decide the outome.

What about how much money has been lost by there financial doping in the last 8 years? Lost european places? Shorter cup runs? Remember, most of these same chairman (Kilmarnock abstained) stood shoulder to shoulder and blocked Newco's entry into the SPL despite all the talk of how much money that decision would lose.

[bingo70]

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IMO, there will be no decision made today on the Yams plight. All we will get is a statement from the SPL saying that no decision was made and cannot be made until they are in possession of the full facts (which might be be never).

Sporting integrity was the catch phrase banded about with Oldco and is still every bit as relevant today, but doubt we will hear any mention of it.

They can't fob it off forever as they won't want the same situation as last season, it may be that they can't get everyone to agree on a decision today but it won't be long, certainly in the next few days I'd have thought

[Benny Brazil]

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As a side note the current SPL Board is made up of

Ralph Topping (SPL Chairman)
Neil Doncaster (SPL Chief Executive)
Eric Riley (Celtic FC)
Stephen Thompson (Dundee United FC)
Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen FC)
Michael Johnston (Kilmarnock FC)

How do we think each of them is going to feel about how Hearts have behaved?

Michael Johnston - he of the Sevco saga who vocally and publically defended them

[robinp]

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Michael Johnston - he of the Sevco saga who vocally and publically defended them

That's because Sevco, like Celtic, bring the boys to town and killie deck out 2 whole stands to accommodate the orks! £££££

[sambajustice]

There's a very strong chance they could go under so the question is...

Is it easier to relegate them now and save any potential hassle through the summer in the SPL or keep them in and the SPL cross their fingers they dont go pop?

if they stayed in the league and then went bust a week or two before the season started it would throw the game into complete disarray!

Also, how bad does it look for Scottish football when one of the top flight clubs starts the season on -15 points!! ??

[Caversham Green]

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The Huns and their media will be in uproar if Hearts survive.

They very much see Hearts situation as the same as theirs (even if its not), and they will want a similar "lack of compassion" applied.

The SPL have got to realise that if the deductions are not applied now there is a genuine possibility that Hearts will fold mid season. Then instead of being a SFL plroblem it will remain an SPL problem.

Better the swift knife stroke now than a long and uncertain death next season.

Also if I were a Jambo I wouldn't want to get relegated the season they The The Rangers were in the same league, as it would mean two years (if they survive) in Div 1.

J

One of the aspects they are required to consider according to Rule A6.12 is the continuity of the league. Hearts are more likely than not to suffer their own insolvency event before the end of next season (in fact they might not last the week) and there's a strong possibility that they would not be able to fulfil their fixtures - they declared themselves at risk of that early in the season that's just ended. It would be irresponsible of the board to ignore that requirement under the current circumstances.

[steakbake]

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May not be a decison today according to STV http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/h...ny-insolvency/

If it gets backdated to Thursday - the date of the apparent insolvency event - then there will be one less derby in the SPL next year ;-) - that's about as much as we know!

The Hearts defence seems ropey - we've not needed the funds of our parent company since Feb 2012 surely doesn't bare up to scrutiny. They are still the parent company whether or not funds have been released. There is also very clear evidence that without those funds, they are unable to pay their players, staff, suppliers etc not to mention their tax dues.

[Thecat23]

Have a look on Kickback at the thread "A Bit Of Dignity". Some of the quotes are superb. According to some, the yams have done nothing wrong. It's was ok to piss money against a wall until its dry then it's someone's fault. What that mob fail to see or admit is, Hearts agreed to the new SPL rules and how if a parent company goes bust the club should then be deducted points. There's even some roaster who keeps saying "nothing will happen" followed by that smug face smiley. How funny is it going to be if they drop down. In fact I'll be posting that same smug face on here everyday in tribute to that fud. :D

[Gus Fring]

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One of the aspects they are required to consider according to Rule A6.12 is the continuity of the league. Hearts are more likely than not to suffer their own insolvency event before the end of next season (in fact they might not last the week) and there's a strong possibility that they would not be able to fulfil their fixtures - they declared themselves at risk of that early in the season that's just ended. It would be irresponsible of the board to ignore that requirement under the current circumstances.

For all we know the SPL are looking at this as an absolute gift. There has been uncertainty over Hearts future for months (if not years) and now they've been handed a solution. I still maintain that if the board weren't going to do anything they would have just said so on Thursday. A simple "UBIG is seperate enough from Hearts that no action is needed and that's our decision" would have been sufficient.

The fact the SPL ARE looking into this and took the weekend to make a decision (possibly longer) is a good thing. The SPL can get hammered by Hearts if they get this decision wrong but nobody can do anything if they had just fobbed us all off.