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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

    746 48.89%
  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

    560 36.70%
  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

    49 3.21%
  • Don't care about them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    Alan Preston, John Blobbo, Brian what's his name are giving a rosy picture in radio. Preston sounds like he is in tears blaming everyone else and saying UBIG is nothing to do with club.

    Chic comes on and tells Preston to stop talking rubbish.

    No shame, no remorse and they sound like the guys defending sevco when it went pear shaped.

    Hope they all rot in hell.

    Its the usual Sportsound swivel-eyed loon show. Just like sitting next to ill-informed roasters in the pub. The Hearts fans have shown 'Quiet dignity and fortitude' apparently


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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    Alan Preston, John Blobbo, Brian what's his name are giving a rosy picture in radio. Preston sounds like he is in tears blaming everyone else and saying UBIG is nothing to do with club.

    Chic comes on and tells Preston to stop talking rubbish.

    No shame, no remorse and they sound like the guys defending sevco when it went pear shaped.

    Hope they all rot in hell.
    Wouldn't expect anything else from the 3 biggest Yams they could get a hold of. Just had a listen, chic young the only one who's talking any sense.

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    Hearts in the SPL next season with a big points deduction is the best scenario for us vultures. I wouldn't fancy them, in the state they will be in, to escape relegation, they would then be relegated into a league with Rangers, forcimg them at best into a play-off situation (likely to be established by then). That could possibly keep them out of the SPL for two years (maybe more). If they escape with relegation to Div 1 next season, there is a chance they could pop back up in one year with a reasonably clean bill of health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibercelona View Post
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    Says Hearts fans have been acting with dignity and class....

    Then goes on to say that Rangers fans also behaved with dignity and class....


    I'd like to know his definition of dignity and class.
    Maybe he meant they were just quiet. They certainly were when Caldwell slotted the winner in anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    Think that one just went right over your head.
    No, not really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Maybe he meant they were just quiet. They certainly were when Caldwell slotted the winner in anyway
    The stewards showed real dignity and class in staying to applaud the players on their lap of honour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish View Post
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    The stewards showed real dignity and class in staying to applaud the players on their lap of honour.
    C'mon ra dons...... GGTTH... :fenlonGet it right up thon yams.....

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    I think you are being unfair here. There are Hibs fans, often of the older generation, who don't relate to the idea that supporting one football team means they have to hate the other. You can't have a game unless you have two sides and it is all the better that the other side just happens to be a close neighbour and therefore ups the stakes and rivalry.
    Personally I would like to see hahahahearts survive and get back to the values and ethic that allow for healthy and fair competition. I would like to see that happen across Scottish football because hatred is killing the sport.
    As my very wise parents used to say "two wrongs never made a right". Just because hahahahearts football club and their fans have behaved in a classless manner does not mean we should lose our dignity. Hibs always had more class than hearts. I think all this baying for the death of another club and snorting over the corpse is not Hibs class.
    This is a very well thought out post and the poster puts his point across very well and normally I would in agreement with what he is saying. Gloating over the dead is classless, much like I found people celebrating the death of Maggie Thatcher to be utterly wrong (regardless of what you thought of her and her politics). However in this case I must disagree with the OP as this is not a person but an entity and an is entirely different. For years we have watched a steady decline of our fortunes on the pitch as our board sought to make our club sustainable and with an infrastructure in which we could at least be proud of. Look across the city and you find a club playing in a stadium that has an ancient old main stand and the other three are decidedly "Jerry Built" at best. They had to go cap in hand to a city university to get a training ground and yet they have had far greater success on the pitch than we have. The reason for this is simple, they have spent money they never had, they have borrowed from Peter without even trying to pay Paul. They have chased an impossible dream as their infrastructure burned around them, their entire foundation is one made from pillars of sand and the whole lot is now coming down around them and the have the gall to ask why? They have cheated everyone by living beyond their means and have even cheated their own by stealing money from them and that is really sad, to pray on peoples love of something and fleece them blind is just plain wrong. For genuine Hearts fans who have followed their club through thick and thin I will feel some sympathy towards them should their club go to the wall much like I did for genuine Rangers fans as I have (nearly) been there and lost mine so have some idea how it feels. As for the club, the entity which is Hearts I have no sympathy whatsoever as it is this which has cheated and lied it's way to two Scottish Cups, the CL qualifiers and numerous top 3 finishes in recent years. I don't blame people for their mistakes BUT I do expect them to pay for them. The bill has arrived and it's well past due, if they are relegated on Monday that's the least punishment they deserve (IMVHO). GGTTH & GGTH

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    I don't think we should get hung up on the decision on Monday, i think it'd be hilarious if they got relegated but even if they don't they've got bigger problems ahead.

    FWIW i think the people mentioned above will look at the likelyhood of hearts seeing out the season and realise it's not going to happen so will decide it'd be crazy not to take this chance to relegate them rather than wait till happens either mid season or a week or two before the season starts.
    My jambo mate looked me in the eye and said at least Hearts will come out of it debt free. My next question is - are you deluded/having a laugh or trying to get on that unfunny John Bishop's joke programme. Do any jambos have a grasp on reality.

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    My jambo mate looked me in the eye and said at least Hearts will come out of it debt free. My next question is - are you deluded/having a laugh or trying to get on that unfunny John Bishop's joke programme. Do any jambos have a grasp on reality.
    Just for the avoidance of doubt, new owners could conceivably negotiate to shed the £10m they owe UBIG as part of the purchase deal, however that strikes me as unlikely since they will be dealing with someone who has a duty to obtain as much money as possible for UBIG's creditors. They cannot, under any circumstances, get rid of the £15m they owe Ukio. The administrator of Ukio has no involvement in the sale of the club, so no negotiation can take place. As with UBIG's administrator he is duty bound to raise as much money as possible for the creditors. That means that, as long as HoMFC remain in business he will continue to collect the interest under the terms of the loan agreement until the capital falls due in December 2015. If HoMFC go into administration he will either retain the loan for when they exit, because the loan is secured, or he will liquidate them by calling it in. The only way they can escape that £15m debt is to close down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatbloke View Post
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    My jambo mate looked me in the eye and said at least Hearts will come out of it debt free. My next question is - are you deluded/having a laugh or trying to get on that unfunny John Bishop's joke programme. Do any jambos have a grasp on reality.
    No

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    Jambos saying how Vlad is still King. The same guy who lied and said he'd clear the debt. The same guy who lied and said Hearts would never be a selling club. The same guy who promised CL success within 5 years. The same guy who said they would have 2 World Cup stars. The same guy who said hearts would build a main stand that will be one of the best in Europe. The same guy who sacked their best manager they had in god knows how many years.

    That's why we are laughing at you twats, that's why it will be hilarious to see you suffer. That's why out with you're own support every other club regard you as arrogant fannies who are plumiting so fast back to earth, there will be an explosion as big as the one that wiped the dinosaurs out.

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    As I've stated many times I really must wonder what they are smoking/drinking up Gorgie way these days, Romanov's gangster tactics suits them perfectly IMO, they just like him, a bunch of sneering arrogant fuds who will be in the 1st/3rd division next season, I wonder what garbage they will spout about teams down there.

    I hate them with a vengeance now and it's funny I never even used to be bothered by them as they are a nothing team to me.

    Roll on Monday when can be rid of this vermin.

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    We are a football club and a business. Our core competitor has been undergoing a slow motion financial disaster which will present us with a unique business development opportunity whichever way it turns out and you think we shouldn't be discussing it?

    There is a world of a difference between not caring abut them and seeing opportunity for ourselves in their demise.

    If you can't see that then.....
    Where exactly does desantos say we shouldn't be discussing this?

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    Disaster if the SPL loses massive Herts traveling support, probably

    All this talk about Hears being a big team and how bad it would be losing them from the SPl are really backed up by these figures, Taken from an Aberdeen site http://aberdeenstats.blogspot.co.uk/...2001-2013.html

    How will we all survive with out the big, nae massive team?

    An average of 977 fans ROFPMSL

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    Quote Originally Posted by qiut View Post
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    All this talk about Hears being a big team and how bad it would be losing them from the SPl are really backed up by these figures, Taken from an Aberdeen site http://aberdeenstats.blogspot.co.uk/...2001-2013.html

    How will we all survive with out the big, nae massive team?

    An average of 977 fans ROFPMSL
    And prey tell how many wretched souls made it up the road today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by qiut View Post
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    All this talk about Hears being a big team and how bad it would be losing them from the SPl are really backed up by these figures, Taken from an Aberdeen site http://aberdeenstats.blogspot.co.uk/...2001-2013.html

    How will we all survive with out the big, nae massive team?

    An average of 977 fans ROFPMSL
    Over 300 more than us though, so I don't quite get the ROFPMSL??

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    Quote Originally Posted by VivaPalmeiras View Post
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    And prey tell how many wretched souls made it up the road today?
    Mate at the game today said there were around 4 or 500. Worth noting that it was £5 for a ticket.

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    Gary Locke says he is confident #Hearts will be in the #SPL next season.




    I'm confident we'll win the cup as well, doesn't mean **** all though.

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    Over 300 more than us though, so I don't quite get the ROFPMSL??
    We've no been bigging up our away support as a reason not to be punted out the league
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thecat23 View Post
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    Jambos saying how Vlad is still King. The same guy who lied and said he'd clear the debt. The same guy who lied and said Hearts would never be a selling club. The same guy who promised CL success within 5 years. The same guy who said they would have 2 World Cup stars. The same guy who said hearts would build a main stand that will be one of the best in Europe. The same guy who sacked their best manager they had in god knows how many years.

    That's why we are laughing at you twats, that's why it will be hilarious to see you suffer. That's why out with you're own support every other club regard you as arrogant fannies who are plumiting so fast back to earth, there will be an explosion as big as the one that wiped the dinosaurs out.

    The same guy that said Hearts would never lose 5-0 to the old firm , Cue Celtic pumping them 5-0 weeks after that erseholes statement.

    Hearts = Scotlands shame.

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    Clueless Jambos on Sportsound. Michael Stewart ripping into one of them to be fair.

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    Over 300 more than us though, so I don't quite get the ROFPMSL??
    And they have spent tens of millions of pounds to achieve this superiority? 300?

    Money well spent in Yamland (as long as its not theirs they're spending)

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    Quote Originally Posted by keekaboo View Post
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    The poll on this thread kinda contradicts that, though. It has the absolute narrowest of majority (50.1%) wanting to see the end of them.


    I actually know quite a few Hibbies who don't want them to go bust.
    I don't know any Hibs fans that don't want them to go bust. Seems to be an extremely large number of Hibs fans wallowing in the prospect at the games too ... they even sing those very words.

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    Over 300 more than us though, so I don't quite get the ROFPMSL??

    Because the gimps claim the SPL can't survive without the Hearts Massive. I don't think the poster was making similar claims about Hibs; why the dig?
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    Alan Preston, John Blobbo, Brian what's his name are giving a rosy picture in radio. Preston sounds like he is in tears blaming everyone else and saying UBIG is nothing to do with club.

    Chic comes on and tells Preston to stop talking rubbish.

    No shame, no remorse and they sound like the guys defending sevco when it went pear shaped.

    Hope they all rot in hell.
    Preston was embarrasing. First of all he tells us that they are self sufficient. Alan, take out the transfer money, and the European money and tell me now that Hearts ar self sufficient. I don 't think the SPL decision will matter much as I doubt they will have the income to make it through Christmas. Preston also stated that the bank might well accept £2m for all their debt. Is he unaware that the bank holds security over their ramshackle stadium and surrounding land. As usual, not a clue Alan. Is he also aware that Hearts directors are all Liths so how he can claim they have no input is bewildering. He basked in the so called glory so now he should man up and accept that some hard days are ahead.

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    Preston was embarrasing. First of all he tells us that they are self sufficient. Alan, take out the transfer money, and the European money and tell me now that Hearts ar self sufficient. I don 't think the SPL decision will matter much as I doubt they will have the income to make it through Christmas. Preston also stated that the bank might well accept £2m for all their debt. Is he unaware that the bank holds security over their ramshackle stadium and surrounding land. As usual, not a clue Alan. Is he also aware that Hearts directors are all Liths so how he can claim they have no input is bewildering. He basked in the so called glory so now he should man up and accept that some hard days are ahead.
    It's easy to see why so many fans think they'll be ok when they keep being lied to by the media

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    Don't know if it was picked up earlier, but listening to Preston on the way to the game he said in all seriousness that the rain should drain off the Easter Road pitch because of the huge slope.

    It was said without a hint of a joke, why is that imbecile allow access to a microphone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clerriehibs View Post
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    I don't know any Hibs fans that don't want them to go bust. Seems to be an extremely large number of Hibs fans wallowing in the prospect at the games too ... they even sing those very words.
    I don't want them to go - not until the derby-record shows in OUR favour. I want to avenge 30+ years of them 'buying/cheating/fixing' etc in these games, I.e. I want to see a Hibs-team, packed with our laddies, wreak havoc on them in every single derby-match with an aim to better or match 7-0 !!. In short, I want their fans to suffer like we've suffered !

    After all these years of KNOWING that my club, my team, everything Hibernian, is and always will be head & shoulders
    above ANYTHING they can produce yet, through their 'financially-enhanced' scheme, the record does not reflect that, is just wrong. To see Hibs restoring the derby-record to what it should be - on the pitch - would give me much more satisfaction than just laughing at them.
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    Read through some but not all of the last 10 or so pages. I want one and one thing only

    Them to be wiped off the face of this earth, die, cease to be and never come back.

    They can have their tainted cups and their derby victories (yes hard to take) but have lived outwith their means for a very long time.

    I for one will be overjoyed to see them deducted points/relegated and forced to play some of the best youths in the country FARF!!

    Yeah we got beaten 1-5 in the final but let's face it we would of still got the same stick if they won 1-2 or even 0-1.

    I am now going to enjoy the lead up to the cup final in Sunday where I will meet up with some outstanding hibby mates and as well as being in the CF toast the demise of that bunch of cheating rogue bar stewards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deansy View Post
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    I don't want them to go - not until the derby-record shows in OUR favour. I want to avenge 30+ years of them 'buying/cheating/fixing' etc in these games, I.e. I want to see a Hibs-team, packed with our ladies, wreak havoc on them in every single derby-match with an aim to better or match 7-0 !!. In short, I want their fans to suffer like we've suffered !

    After all these years of KNOWING that my club, my team, everything Hibernian, is and always will be head & shoulders
    above ANYTHING they can produce yet, through their 'financially-enhanced' scheme, the record does not reflect that, is just wrong. To see Hibs restoring the derby-record to what it should be - on the pitch - would give me much more satisfaction than just laughing at them.
    Forget about it. Building some kind of derby run against them won't happen. They'll be in the basement leagues. If and when they did eventually crawl their way back, we'd struggle against them as much as we struggle now against so-called "lesser" teams, because we don't do cheating.

    Let them die. ASAP.

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