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[Mikey]

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They usually shout it from the roof tops when wages are paid. I've asked all is Barry, what an hour ago, but he's no saying anything.

I beg to differ and don't think they've paid anyone.

The players have been told not to say anything too.

Read into that what you will.

If nothing else, if they haven't paid them then Hearts will have to have reported it to the SPL by Monday, which would presumably impact on their decision.

[Hermit Crab]

Tweeted banderson again about the wages. Lets see if he responds.

[Treadstone]

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Their own accounts make it very clear that they are not self-sufficient. They need an unspecified amount of cashflow to come from player sales (with few players to sell) and a proposed membership scheme which, on 8th April they claimed to be 'soon to be launched' but on 17 May hasn't even been publicised, just to survive.

I trust the shareholders will request details of these next Thursday.

Caversham.

This membership scheme is the one that really interests me. Seems to me they are thinking 'if fans want to give extra money we might as well take charge of it'. I am sure some would not join if it is going to the current incumbents but as we seen from the share issue there is plenty that don't mind giving a donation.

FoH must be absolutely fizzing about this. Not so much an elephant in the room but a toaster in the bath for their plans.

[Aldo]

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The players have been told not to say anything too.

Read into that what you will.

If nothing else, if they haven't paid them then Hearts will have to have reported it to the SPL by Monday, which would presumably impact on their decision.

Mikey that's it in a nutshell. Silence to me means nowts been paid. They honestly think that getting past the Sheep game on the 19th and that's it they are home and dry.

SPL have mentioned the word RETROSPECTIVELY.

Wages not being paid means a further penalty and a fine would be pointless.

Pints deduction or further transfer embargo on its way me thinks.

[stokesmessiah]

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Surely they will take the punishment now as they will have a chance at coming back up because if they go down the season after we all know who will be joining them in the 1st div

There would be playoffs in place by then so they would still have a chance at getting up even in Sevco Utd are in the league.

Whether they have a club or stadium at that point is however, anyone's guess.

[Spike Mandela]

No word from Lithuania yet? If a court decision wasn't imminent today I would have expected that reported by now.

[Aldo]

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Tweeted banderson again about the wages. Lets see if he responds.

Good luck. I twatted him over a hour ago. Silence means not paid cos he'd be the first one to post it.

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There would be playoffs in place by then so they would still have a chance at getting up even in Sevco Utd are in the league.

Whether they have a club or stadium at that point is however, anyone's guess.

They would have to be in one of those positions to make the play offs first to stand a chance.

[God Petrie]

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Good luck. I twatted him over a hour ago. Silence means not paid cos he'd be the first one to post it.

To be fair, he probably just doesn't know. Don't attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.

[Aldo]

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To be fair, he probably just doesn't know. Don't attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.

Ha ha

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Where is the link to say the SFA are meeting on Monday

[truehibernian]

You've got to hand it to Barry Pandertothem - his latest feeble attempt at 'being in the know' is to say that the transfer plans of getting Boyd and Goodwillie may have to be 'ripped up' depending on events in Lithuania..............that'll be the plans that were purely in Gary Locke's wee dreamland head then Barry.........

As for the Hearts fans.............they are like alcoholics at a wedding reception, sitting with an orange juice proudly exclaiming they are 'clean', whilst the hipflask with vodka is hidden under the table between their legs.

My goalposts are indeed shifting as I did think it would be poor to see them go down - now I want to see them banished purely for their shameful arrogance. Oh, and that they have the most appalling dress sense and hygiene standards

[Paisley Hibby]

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So the SPL come up with a new set of rules, but they need to take legal advice in order to understand them

I don't think it's the rules that are the problem, it's working out whether the current situation with HOMFC triggers one of those rules. My guess is that it doesn't for the moment - but that may change over the summer. As a result, I feel relegation will not happen (although there's possibly things worse than that ahead for them). However, SPL will want to be sure as they'll have Dundee (and maybe the Big Huns) all over this like a rash.

In my heart I guess I'd love to see those arrogant pompous ****s go the way of Third Lanark. However, my head says we need them as much as they need us. Apart from the cup, the only matches that ever get me really fired up nowadys are the derbies. I for one hope we don't lose those games. Just saying like.

[Treadstone]

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As for the Hearts fans.............they are like alcoholics at a wedding reception, sitting with an orange juice proudly exclaiming they are 'clean', whilst the hipflask with vodka is hidden under the table between their legs.

More analogies please. My fave was possibly on this thread about Hearts being the junkie son begging for money and the father giving him it but that it must be spent on food. As soon as he gets it he heads for the nearest dealer.

[Gus Fring]

I think too much is being made about the SPL seeking legal advice on their own rules. This particular situation is obviously complicated by whats happening in Lithuania. Nobody seems to know for sure whether what happened yesterday was part of the official legal process for UBIG suffering an insolvency event or if it was just them telling people what's going on. The SPL are wise to be covering their ***** IMO. They need to make sure they're not jumping the gun and dishing out rather sever punishments without properly looking in to it.

Time is not a bad thing here, we need the SPL to be 100% sure in whatever decision it makes, we don't want those gorgie ****bags wriggling out of this in a few weeks because the procedures haven't been followed.

[Mikey]

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Time is not a bad thing here, we need the SPL to be 100% sure in whatever decision it makes, we don't want those gorgie ****bags wriggling out of this in a few weeks because the procedures haven't been followed.

[Treadstone]

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I think too much is being made about the SPL seeking legal advice on their own rules. This particular situation is obviously complicated by whats happening in Lithuania. Nobody seems to know for sure whether what happened yesterday was part of the official legal process for UBIG suffering an insolvency event or if it was just them telling people what's going on. The SPL are wise to be covering their ***** IMO. They need to make sure they're not jumping the gun and dishing out rather sever punishments without properly looking in to it.

Time is not a bad thing here, we need the SPL to be 100% sure in whatever decision it makes, we don't want those gorgie ****bags wriggling out of this in a few weeks because the procedures haven't been followed.

This.

Whatever some people believe in the corridors of power there is always someone ready to argue the other side. Look at the Lord Nimmo Smith ruling, Lord Glennies' transfer ban hearing for sevco and the First Tier Tax Tribunal. Most of the arbiters in these cases would have come from similar walks of life, education and careers but disagree when ultimately decisions have to be made.

One thing we can agree on though is the groaning when we see "Neil Patey football finance expert..."

[Green Fish]

Just up, was night shift. As the meeting is on Monday, a day after the end of the season, does this mean that if points are deducted is it implemented for this season or for the start of next season.

Apologies if detailed elsewhere.

[Gus Fring]

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Just up, was night shift. As the meeting is on Monday, a day after the end of the season, does this mean that if points are deducted is it implemented for this season or for the start of next season.

Apologies if detailed elsewhere.

SPL can apply the deduction for this season if they wish

[calumhibee1]

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Just up, was night shift. As the meeting is on Monday, a day after the end of the season, does this mean that if points are deducted is it implemented for this season or for the start of next season.

Apologies if detailed elsewhere.

They can hand out a retrospective punishment. So they can still be relegated on Monday.

[Onion]

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I think too much is being made about the SPL seeking legal advice on their own rules. This particular situation is obviously complicated by whats happening in Lithuania. Nobody seems to know for sure whether what happened yesterday was part of the official legal process for UBIG suffering an insolvency event or if it was just them telling people what's going on. The SPL are wise to be covering their ***** IMO. They need to make sure they're not jumping the gun and dishing out rather sever punishments without properly looking in to it.

Time is not a bad thing here, we need the SPL to be 100% sure in whatever decision it makes, we don't want those gorgie ****bags wriggling out of this in a few weeks because the procedures haven't been followed.

Makes sense but the SPL beaks are lucky to have this time. Had the points diff been 16-20, then DFC and Yams would have needed a result in tomorrow's matches to be sure of staying up. That would have made the Hibs game much more competitive, with risk to players etc. As I say, SPL are lucky to have the time and should really have anticipated this scenario WEEKS AGO.

[Onion]

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They can hand out a retrospective punishment. So they can still be relegated on Monday.

Yeah, but a lot less fun for us at the match tomorrow

[Golden Bear]

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This.

Whatever some people believe in the corridors of power there is always someone ready to argue the other side. Look at the Lord Nimmo Smith ruling, Lord Glennies' transfer ban hearing for sevco and the First Tier Tax Tribunal. Most of the arbiters in these cases would have come from similar walks of life, education and careers but disagree when ultimately decisions have to be made.

One thing we can agree on though is the groaning when we see "Neil Patey football finance expert..."

Aye I often think that the Legal profession contain some of the biggest criminals in the country ----------- in fact they're a law unto themselves! The Law is a big game to them and many see it as nothing more than an opportunity to accumulate yet more vastly inflated fees .

[Golden Bear]

I wonder what Dundee's take is on these latest developments? --------- it all seems strangely quite on that front.

[Frazerbob]

So, do we all want Hearts to win tomorrow so that they will have an extra point deducted next season should the points penalty come then?

[itslegaltender]

heres a link to UBIG's very own website proclaiming that they "actively participates in its management"

http://www.ubig.lt/index.php/projektai/sports/74

[rcarter1]

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In my heart I guess I'd love to see those arrogant pompous ****s go the way of Third Lanark. However, my head says we need them as much as they need us. Apart from the cup, the only matches that ever get me really fired up nowadys are the derbies. I for one hope we don't lose those games. Just saying like.

Agree with that, although if we got our schect together and were challenging at the top end of the table, we might not need them so much. Compromise - They can keep their stadium, SPL status, debt free - clean as a whistle - but they are not allowed to field a goal keeper from now on.

[Sas_The_Hibby]

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SPL can apply the deduction for this season if they wish

Do we get to vote?

PLEASE

[rcarter1]

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So, do we all want Hearts to win tomorrow so that they will have an extra point deducted next season should the points penalty come then?

Belter!!

[greenpaper55]

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heres a link to UBIG's very own website proclaiming that they "actively participates in its management"

http://www.ubig.lt/index.php/projektai/sports/74

Sent the link to the SPL just in case they missed it

[Frazerbob]

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heres a link to UBIG's very own website proclaiming that they "actively participates in its management"

http://www.ubig.lt/index.php/projektai/sports/74

Case rested your honour!