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  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Springbank View Post
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    Loved vlad's direct quotes there. The words Gary Locke thieves and perverts.

    Sounds like a good strap line for a yamanagement book: the Romanov years | Gary Locke thieves and perverts
    Wasn't that a number one hit for Cher in the 70's?

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    http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-20/failed-baltic-bank-raises-risk-of-broken-hearts-1-000-miles-away.html

    Pick the bones out this!.. ;-)
    Our hearts are sad after reading that.
    Oh well, as the fan who was quoted said "until Romanov came along there was no expectation that anything would be won" back to the status quo then for Heart of Midlothian, only there will need to be a phoenix from the lowest tier to challenge their rivals again.
    Good luck to the club that was formerly based from the dance hall Heart of Midlothian in Gorgie.

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    I don't see the fascination about teasing a sports reporter on a minor regional newspaper. He's low down the food chain and unlikely to get much further. Do we really expect him to know anything about business matters or to be allowed to conduct any investigative journalism, let alone be capable of it ?
    It's the fact that he pretends that he is doing these things that winds some of us up. He's not a "sports reporter" he's a mouthpiece for the Hearts board pretending to be a journalist. He's the very thing that is wrong with football journalism in this country, too afraid to say anything bad for fear of being tossed off the gravy train.

    He always claims to be in the know when the outcome is favourable for Hearts (Romanov still having control, shares coming in march, wages being paid) and yet this knowledge suddenly escapes him whenever its a story with a negative connotation (Shares NOT coming in march, Romanov NOT still in control)

    He's the very definition of a Succulent Yam. in the "Hearts Financial Meltdown" saga he is the canonical equivalent of Jim Traynor. A man who will happily spread disinformation to hide what's really going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    Strange that Hearts would pay their staff on a Saturday?
    16th may not be a Saturday if the yams have their own calendar in the same way that they have their own economic system.

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    http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-20/failed-baltic-bank-raises-risk-of-broken-hearts-1-000-miles-away.html

    Pick the bones out this!.. ;-)
    Good find.

    Sounds like this is all going to rumble on for a good long while...


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    Quote Originally Posted by zargonian View Post
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    In regards to the yak being formed before us, I think if my memory serves me right - the actual date is a clerical error, it's maybe in Lugton's book I think.
    In any event, they will be dead soon and their initial hatching date will be irrelevant.
    This is covered quite extensively in one of the older Hibs books. Think the gist of it was that Hearts backdated their birth date by a year. Don't think it really matters. It also says in the book that players of both clubs previously turned out for a team called White Star. Don't know much else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    16th may not be a Saturday if the yams have their own calendar in the same way that they have their own economic system.
    Would that be like me using up all my holiday allowance but deciding to take the day off work anyway because I could just owe the holiday to myself?

    Geez, it is all very confusing.

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    The St Mirren fans have plenty to say about some of the disgusting Yam behaviour on Sunday but this is classic :



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    I had one of the funniest experiences I’ve ever had at the football wondering out the Ivory Hotel about 2.30 on Sunday.

    I was waiting for some mates to catch up when a rather rotund Jambo – aged about 40 and wearing NHS specs wondered past. I was just thinking in my head that the guy looked a really fat version of one of the Proclaimers…. when an identical twin of the first one walked past. Well, not quite as fat, but same face, NHS specs and glaiket look.

    Anyway, I mentioned to my mate I was standing with (I thought out of earshot) that the Proclaimers had let themselves go…..prompting Proclaimer Number 1 (the fattest one) to go MENTAL…calling me a “weegie ****” and offering a square go, and generally standing giving the old “come ahead” hands...

    Eventually fat Proclaimer’s mates dragged him away (including the “good” Proclaimer), but I couldn’t move for laughing…

    I reckon the poor ********s must get it all the time and I struck a nerve being the millionth person to point out their resemblance Hibs most ‘famous’ twin supporters.. but it was some over-reaction…hilarious…


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_8
    To all those desperate for news that #Hearts players haven't been paid this month: They were paid on time on 16th. Please calm down. #HMFC



    Just checked his Mentions on Twitter and from what I can see, he was only asked this once in the last 24 hours. He has however been asked multiple times about Share certificates and hasn't answered a single one.

    Strange that Hearts would pay their staff on a Saturday?
    Not if they were paid in manky fivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    Just checked his Mentions on Twitter and from what I can see, he was only asked this once in the last 24 hours. He has however been asked multiple times about Share certificates and hasn't answered a single one.
    I have asked him 6 times about the shares since the weekend, to be fair I asked him twice under my nom de plume @hearts_taxcase.
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    He says there's news of when they are getting the certificates in the paper tomorrow. Thought it was mid march bazza?! #allisbarry #allisverycomplex
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    Any word on Hibs getting the Derby ticket money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M17 View Post
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    He says there's news of when they are getting the certificates in the paper tomorrow. Thought it was mid march bazza?! #allisbary #allisverycomplex
    Cheers M just seen it.

    Hows things Barry ? We know you look in.

    #allisverycomplex

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    Barry Anderson is as much of an irrelevance as the miserable little dying club he writes propaganda for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    Just checked his Mentions on Twitter
    ?
    How do you do that mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_8
    To all those desperate for news that #Hearts players haven't been paid this month: They were paid on time on 16th. Please calm down. #HMFC



    Just checked his Mentions on Twitter and from what I can see, he was only asked this once in the last 24 hours. He has however been asked multiple times about Share certificates and hasn't answered a single one.

    Strange that Hearts would pay their staff on a Saturday?
    Post dated Ukio Bankas cheques from Vlad when he flew in? Just pop them into your accounts lads and #allisbarry in a few days

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeithenHibby View Post
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    http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-20/failed-baltic-bank-raises-risk-of-broken-hearts-1-000-miles-away.html

    Pick the bones out this!.. ;-)

    Not sure this link is working as I sent it from my mobile.........

    Anyway, for those of you that have missed it I suggest that you get a family packet of digestives in, as this will rumble on by the sounds......

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...iles-away.html

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    I'm predicting right now that tomorrow's story from Barry will contain very little information and will be vague at best. Have the shares even been registered with Companies House yet? (Do they need to?)

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    How do you do that mate?
    It's a feature on a lot of Twitter apps. I use Tweetbot on my iphone and there's an option when viewing someones profile to see all the tweets to them
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Green Goblin View Post
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    Would that be like me using up all my holiday allowance but deciding to take the day off work anyway because I could just owe the holiday to myself?

    Geez, it is all very confusing.
    #allverycomplex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    It's a feature on a lot of Twitter apps. I use Tweetbot on my iphone and there's an option when viewing someones profile to see all the tweets to them
    Cheers. I've heard 2 folk say check my/his mentions in the last couple of days but had no idea how to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Sorry i can't agree.

    HMRC are commercialy aware , as they should ne. Had they insisted on full payment on completion of the investigation, they would have got nothing ....including the PAYE and VAT for the currentw months. This way, they get that PLUS a stab at the big money .

    That is how they.operate these days with most.businesses .
    I am as confused as the next man (or last poster) about this. I do recall though,years ago when we(a group of workmates and I) had a 2 year maintenance contract ,and had to be registered at companies house/insured for a minimum of 1 million pounds in the event of any man being injured etc,etc. the contract was with a nationalised company (NCB) for the care and maintenance of Monktonhall Colliery. we fulfilled all the needs of the company concerned, but were forever plagued by the VAT section of HMRC. they insisted that we pay our VAT on a set date. on several occasions this date was well before our payday. in other words, we were to pay VAT, sometimes 2 weeks before we had actually been paid for services provided. this VAT repayment was 3 monthly,iirc.our advisors/accountants were paronoid about the possibility of us defaulting! drove me up the wa' at times. I'm sure the VAT office was in Semple St. at the time. how can the gorgie mob keep getting away with what looks like murder? there must be something going on,that allows them such leeway.this looks like grand larceny on a huge scale, and the public at large are the losers. if it was a small business with 7/8 employees , they'd all be on the dole now as the business would have folded due to pressure from HMRC.

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    Very interesting article indeed. Seems like some supporters still seem to think that winning two cups was worth the mess Vlad will leave behind, which increasingly looks to me like liquidation eventually. Fools.

    Interestingly even FOH seem to recognise that they are deep in the cack and there is no wishful thinking moonbeams solution.

    And this thing about being formed a year before us. I know the ****s claim this is true, but isn't it the fact there is no actual documentary proof of this?
    they danced there way into that year. had a big "do" at oddfellows that year, before it became a haricrishna temple,or changed it's name to Malonies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs View Post
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    #allverycomplex
    You just made my point for me. I couldn't even get Banderson's stupid new catchphrase right. And I was even the one who flagged it in the first place.

    All very confu.... All very COMPLEX

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    Quote Originally Posted by monktonharp View Post
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    I am as confused as the next man (or last poster) about this. I do recall though,years ago when we(a group of workmates and I) had a 2 year maintenance contract ,and had to be registered at companies house/insured for a minimum of 1 million pounds in the event of any man being injured etc,etc. the contract was with a nationalised company (NCB) for the care and maintenance of Monktonhall Colliery. we fulfilled all the needs of the company concerned, but were forever plagued by the VAT section of HMRC. they insisted that we pay our VAT on a set date. on several occasions this date was well before our payday. in other words, we were to pay VAT, sometimes 2 weeks before we had actually been paid for services provided. this VAT repayment was 3 monthly,iirc.our advisors/accountants were paronoid about the possibility of us defaulting! drove me up the wa' at times. I'm sure the VAT office was in Semple St. at the time. how can the gorgie mob keep getting away with what looks like murder? there must be something going on,that allows them such leeway.this looks like grand larceny on a huge scale, and the public at large are the losers. if it was a small business with 7/8 employees , they'd all be on the dole now as the business would have folded due to pressure from HMRC.
    The attitude of HMRC has changed a lot in the past 10 years. It's true that, in years gone by, the Revenue and (in particular) the VAT Office would just stick to the rules and not pay attention to the implications. I had many conversations about "blood out of a stone" and "putting people on the dole." The situation you describe was common back then.

    Nowadays, they see the bigger commercial picture. Your last sentence doesn't apply as much now. Sticking to the letter of the law can result in (1) no actual tax take (2) cutting off a future source of tax and (3) putting people on benefits, thus costing the State.

    In Hearts' case, and I have seen this replicated in others, they ARE getting the regular PAYE and VAT payments (albeit after threatening them with winding-up). On the larger settlement, they recognise that they had little chance of getting it in January, and are more likely to get it when the ST money is coming in. That way, they get another few months' PAYE, and save the State in benefits.

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    I heard today that hearts will have the begging bowl out again as they need the fans to bail them out again now they cant make any coin from a cup final dvd and other merchandise. Could be balls but thought i would post it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Penlon View Post
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    I heard today that hearts will have the begging bowl out again as they need the fans to bail them out again now they cant make any coin from a cup final dvd and other merchandise. Could be balls but thought i would post it anyway.
    I think its inevitable that they will be passing the begging bowl around again soon. By their own figures they needed 2m to make it to the end of the season but they raised half of that, add that to the less than expected revenue from being in the bottom 6 and them taking less money from sevco. All this and a probable drop in attendences will mean only one thing

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    Anyone been following this thread on keekback? It's got more twists and turns than a rollercoaster! Top notch entertainment!

    http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index..../page__st__400
    Scary stuff.

    Worth a read before the thread is deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    The attitude of HMRC has changed a lot in the past 10 years. It's true that, in years gone by, the Revenue and (in particular) the VAT Office would just stick to the rules and not pay attention to the implications. I had many conversations about "blood out of a stone" and "putting people on the dole." The situation you describe was common back then.

    Nowadays, they see the bigger commercial picture. Your last sentence doesn't apply as much now. Sticking to the letter of the law can result in (1) no actual tax take (2) cutting off a future source of tax and (3) putting people on benefits, thus costing the State.

    In Hearts' case, and I have seen this replicated in others, they ARE getting the regular PAYE and VAT payments (albeit after threatening them with winding-up). On the larger settlement, they recognise that they had little chance of getting it in January, and are more likely to get it when the ST money is coming in. That way, they get another few months' PAYE, and save the State in benefits.
    appreciate your input on this. still makes my blood boil that these cretins seem to be getting away with it all. there fans are not to blame, although they've just taken the ride as they've got a couple of cups in the bag and thought nothing else matters. their day will surely come, when Hector eventually says enough is enough.I still feel very bitter about the way we were treated though in the nineties. small group of working men doing all the right things,paying the tax as it should be, and earning an honest living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibee Ryan View Post
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    Anyone been following this thread on keekback? It's got more twists and turns than a rollercoaster! Top notch entertainment!

    http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index..../page__st__400
    Dunno if folk are at the wind up, I suspect they are. If not, it's kicked of big time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macca70 View Post
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    Scary stuff.

    Worth a read before the thread is deleted.
    To instill that kind of fear in some of the posters it can only be Vlad they're talking about.

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