Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

***jacomo*** · 15-02-2013 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by greenginger

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Did the sleekit little creep say WHEN he thought European Football would comeback ?

Sevco F C have put off the date of their first accounts until 2014 and EUFA rules state new clubs must have 3 years audited accounts to be admitted to European competition, making itseason 2016 - 17 before they are eligible.

Of course, they could claim they have been punished enough !

Ha ha ha - oops!

***Bostonhibby*** · 15-02-2013 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by FalkirkHibby

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I see the BBC censored the Question Time broadcast last night when George Galloway made a demand that if the Rangers newco claim they are the same club as Rangers oldco then they pay their tax debts, the show is produced in Glasgow so it seems certain somebody there, either a Sev fan or succulent lamb wannabe, doesn't want any heat on Sevco.

Masons in high places? surely not.

***s.a.m*** · 15-02-2013 09:29 PM

Martin Williams ‏@Martin1Williams#Rangers CEO Charles Green says he has written to Prime Minister David Cameron in a bid to move the Ibrox club out of Scottish football

***Bostonhibby*** · 15-02-2013 09:35 PM

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Martin Williams ‏@Martin1Williams#Rangers CEO Charles Green says he has written to Prime Minister David Cameron in a bid to move the Ibrox club out of Scottish football

Wonder if he attached a cheque for Dave and their majesties tax money? Doubt dodgy Dave knows where Glasgow is or cares about Cheeky Charlies mumping.

**green glory** · 15-02-2013 09:40 PM

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Martin Williams &rlm;@Martin1Williams#Rangers CEO Charles Green says he has written to Prime Minister David Cameron in a bid to move the Ibrox club out of Scottish football

What a ****ing ********. But then what Chuckie says and does rarely corresponds. As the Orc fuds will find to their cost soon enough I'm sure.

***Gettin' Auld*** · 16-02-2013 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by littleplum

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"In Feb 2012, just 2 weeks after the club went into administration we held the ORSA AGM in Perth"

Funny, I had something similar at the time too.

Ha Ha Ha!!

**green glory** · 16-02-2013 07:53 PM

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...-with-wage-cut

Despite Chuckle's claims that his newco Govan start-up are "cash rich".

There may be trouble ahead.

***Jack Hackett*** · 16-02-2013 08:16 PM

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http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...-with-wage-cut

Despite Chuckle's claims that his newco Govan start-up are "cash rich".

There may be trouble ahead.

Every pound in a players pocket is a pound out of Charlie's

***Billy Whizz*** · 16-02-2013 08:20 PM

Ridiculous amount of money being spent. £10k per week on an ave goalie in 3d or is that D3. If he moves on where is he likely to get that sort of wage

**green glory** · 17-02-2013 09:29 PM

http://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/...s-register.pdf

***Keith_M*** · 19-02-2013 12:44 PM

.....apparently

apologies for the DR link

***Spike Mandela*** · 19-02-2013 01:09 PM

Every time I glance at the DR lying about at my work it has a Rangers or Charles Green story on back page or quite often the front, it really is turning into a Rangers fanzine and is largely an irrelevant newspaper imo.

A quick look at this article and I had to laugh at the "whopping" £22m raised in particular reminding me of the "wealth off the radar" piece on Craig Whyte.

These days, honestly, who cares what happens in the Sevco boardroom?

***basehibby*** · 19-02-2013 04:50 PM

I can't stand the DR either - a paper which has consistently defied the laws of physics by plumeting lower and lower than the absolute zero of balance and objectivity in sports reporting.

But amazingly they are outdone by the ultimate trumpet Charles Green - a "personality" so grating he almost makes me feel physically sick just reading about him! Things like truth and integrity seem to be complete anathema to this guy and, frustrated at his inability to force his fantasy world down the throats of most of the population (Naive Loyal excepted) he seems to be taking out his frustrations on his boardroom colleagues now - toys out of pram is his style and this story is no exception

**~~M6hibee~~** · 19-02-2013 04:54 PM

Hands up, used tae get the daily record as its also really the only scots newspaper you can get doon here. No any mair. Absolute rubbish and it has quite literally turned tae a sevco fanzine.

**steakbake** · 19-02-2013 05:40 PM

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Hands up, used tae get the daily record as its also really the only scots newspaper you can get doon here. No any mair. Absolute rubbish and it has quite literally turned tae a sevco fanzine.

"turned in to..." is an interesting choice of words...

***Moulin Yarns*** · 21-02-2013 12:21 PM

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...help-1-2802802

That would be a league that brok up when the Soviet Union broke up, and they are talking about merging, again. Although i like the idea of The Rangers playing in Siberia.

***Moulin Yarns*** · 21-02-2013 12:25 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-21532450

**EuanH78** · 21-02-2013 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Pitlochry hibee

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-21532450

This documentary won last night. Alex Thomson also won Television Journalist of the year. Royal Television Society.....Must be a papist conspiracy

**Since90+2** · 21-02-2013 02:05 PM

Anyone know why there is a delay in announcing the findings of the panel regarding Rangers use of dual contracts?

Pretty sure they announced they had came to a verdict about 3 weeks ago but not heard anything since.

**green glory** · 21-02-2013 02:23 PM

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Anyone know why there is a delay in announcing the findings of the panel regarding Rangers use of dual contracts?

Pretty sure they announced they had came to a verdict about 3 weeks ago but not heard anything since.

Charles Green is telling people the verdict will come on the 28th. If true, not long now.

**~~hibs0666~~** · 21-02-2013 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Pitlochry hibee

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http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...help-1-2802802

That would be a league that brok up when the Soviet Union broke up, and they are talking about merging, again. Although i like the idea of The Rangers playing in Siberia.

I hate to say it but I'm with Green - a Scottish league has had its day and we need to amalgamate to save the game.

**Since90+2** · 21-02-2013 02:35 PM

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I hate to say it but I'm with Green - a Scottish league has had its day and we need to amalgamate to save the game.

With who? The Irish League? Welsh?

England will have no interest in a merger with us so as usual Green is talking nonsense.

***JimBHibees*** · 21-02-2013 02:39 PM

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I hate to say it but I'm with Green - a Scottish league has had its day and we need to amalgamate to save the game.

Yeah because Hibs v Rochdale would be a real moneyspinner. No disrespect to any Rochdalians reading the board.

**LancashireHibby** · 21-02-2013 02:57 PM

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Yeah because Hibs v Rochdale would be a real moneyspinner. No disrespect to any Rochdalians reading the board.

I'd be delighted with it, personally

***MrSmith*** · 21-02-2013 02:59 PM

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With who? The Irish League? Welsh?

England will have no interest in a merger with us so as usual Green is talking nonsense.

Even the mere thought of that merger is a fabulous contradiction!

***JimBHibees*** · 21-02-2013 03:08 PM

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I'd be delighted with it, personally

No doubt given your travelling.

**~~hibs0666~~** · 21-02-2013 03:38 PM

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Yeah because Hibs v Rochdale would be a real moneyspinner. No disrespect to any Rochdalians reading the board.

It's all about TV and commercial revenues I'm afraid. Hibs will make more money if playing against Rochdale in a UK league than playing against Dundee united in a Scottish League.

**jgl07** · 21-02-2013 04:29 PM

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It's all about TV and commercial revenues I'm afraid. Hibs will make more money if playing against Rochdale in a UK league than playing against Dundee united in a Scottish League.

Maybe Hibs would be better off financially in League One or League Two. They would certainly be vastly better off in the Championship.

However there is very little in it for the English Clubs. There would be next to no additional TV revenue, certainly for the lower divisions. Scottish Clubs would bring few visiting supporters (apart from Rangers and Celtic and we know what happened the last time the former played in Manchester!).

Only around 15 Scottish clubs would have the support to hack it in the Football League. The PL clubs are not particularly keen on Celtic (or even Sevco) coming in. The likes of Hibs, Aberdeen, and the future Sevco West might have something to add but the travelling costs would increase. Even travelling within England is a strain for some League Two clubs and more so for Conference Clubs.

How about Exeter or Plymouth travelling to a mid-week match in Inverness? There are a lot of mid-week matches in the English lower divisions (46 League matches to fit in!).

**JeMeSouviens** · 21-02-2013 04:58 PM

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I hate to say it but I'm with Green - a Scottish league has had its day and we need to amalgamate to save the game.

Me too. There is now no way anyone but the NewHuns could ever bridge the gap to Celtic. Their wage budget is at least 6 times that of any other SPL club. Yet they can't compete in Europe because the Scottish tv audience is tiny. UEFA need to realise that the small countries can't compete and merge things into regional leagues: Germany-Austria-Switzerland, France-Holland-Belgium, Spain-Portugal, Scotland-England-Wales-Ireland with an appropriate regional pyramid underneath each top league.

Edinburgh's sole representative in a GB&I premier league could do quite well.

**~~hibs0666~~** · 21-02-2013 05:30 PM

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Maybe Hibs would be better off financially in League One or League Two. They would certainly be vastly better off in the Championship.

However there is very little in it for the English Clubs. There would be next to no additional TV revenue, certainly for the lower divisions. Scottish Clubs would bring few visiting supporters (apart from Rangers and Celtic and we know what happened the last time the former played in Manchester!).

Only around 15 Scottish clubs would have the support to hack it in the Football League. The PL clubs are not particularly keen on Celtic (or even Sevco) coming in. The likes of Hibs, Aberdeen, and the future Sevco West might have something to add but the travelling costs would increase. Even travelling within England is a strain for some League Two clubs and more so for Conference Clubs.

How about Exeter or Plymouth travelling to a mid-week match in Inverness? There are a lot of mid-week matches in the English lower divisions (46 League matches to fit in!).

The English leagues are under severe political scrutiny at the moment, and so are vulnerable to a politically-motivated deal to create a national league (if the demand were to come from Scottish clubs).

Make no bones about it, Scottish football is close to bankruptcy. Youth development is not proving to be the answer either and our league is not attracting any investment. The status quo will not sustain a professional league of any quality for very much longer. Radical change will come, and Chuckie might just be the catalyst to make it happen.