Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Moulin Yarns]

Has anybody read the other Tomoblog??

http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...y-rangers/1593

Now that will take some explaining by D&P

[LeighLoyal]

Superb news. I never beleived Green's 22m claim, now we have another end game in sight. The Rangers Internatonal... RIP

[green glory]

I won't be happy till I see Ibroke being pulled down amidst the wailing of disbelieving zombies.

[Hermit Crab]

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Rangers winding up petition. Har har!

http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...-petition/4020

Haha I'll even help dig the ****z a hole to bury them in.

[The Green Goblin]

If you read the blog, he updated it at 1824 UK time today, following a statement from Sevco which read as follows:

Despite our best efforts it took Rangers several hours to respond to today’s developments. The club has just issued the following statement:
“With regard to stories circulating about Rangers and Orlit, the sums sought are insignificant and agreement has been reached subject to the necessary paperwork.“Rangers Football Club is capable of meeting any debts presented legitimately and we would like to stress to our supporters there is no threat to the Club whatsoever.”

Just consider that bit in bold, referring to 400k...that is truly breathtaking arrogance isn't it? I wonder how "insignificant" the sums are to all the people oldhun failed to pay...?

[green glory]

@alextomo: #C4NEWS EXCLUSIVE - Sources close to Orlit Enterprise say: "no settlement has been reached" over Rangers owing them £400,000.

So much for "agreement has been reached".

That damned clock just won't stop tick-tocking.

[green glory]

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Are they the same thing? Settlement & Agreement

We'll have to wait and see. There's a live debate here http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...ne-debate/4050 if anyone's interested, or you can watch it on Channel 4's YouTube channel.

[matty_f]

The courts can't close them down. Sure it takes a silver bullet or something like that to kill zombies.

[hibsmad]

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If you read the blog, he updated it at 1824 UK time today, following a statement from Sevco which read as follows:

Despite our best efforts it took Rangers several hours to respond to today’s developments. The club has just issued the following statement:
“With regard to stories circulating about Rangers and Orlit, the sums sought are insignificant and agreement has been reached subject to the necessary paperwork.“Rangers Football Club is capable of meeting any debts presented legitimately and we would like to stress to our supporters there is no threat to the Club whatsoever.”

Just consider that bit in bold, referring to 400k...that is truly breathtaking arrogance isn't it? I wonder how "insignificant" the sums are to all the people oldhun failed to pay...?

But what else can we expect from them? Their club is run with the same arrogance and, "we don't give a **** what anyone else thinks about us" attitude that has for so long been displayed by their fans.

[rubber mal]

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If you read the blog, he updated it at 1824 UK time today, following a statement from Sevco which read as follows:

Despite our best efforts it took Rangers several hours to respond to today’s developments. The club has just issued the following statement:
“With regard to stories circulating about Rangers and Orlit, the sums sought are insignificant and agreement has been reached subject to the necessary paperwork.“Rangers Football Club is capable of meeting any debts presented legitimately and we would like to stress to our supporters there is no threat to the Club whatsoever.”

Just consider that bit in bold, referring to 400k...that is truly breathtaking arrogance isn't it? I wonder how "insignificant" the sums are to all the people oldhun failed to pay...?

Absolutely breathtaking.

[LeighLoyal]

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Absolutely breathtaking.

Same arrogance as Oldco at least. 400k is 'not significant' just like all the money owed to creditors, what a contemptible statement. This puts out the message that if you do business with newco you can expect no payment without involving lawyers which suggests they are struggling for cash as no business that claims to be debt free with £22m in the bank would need payment terms on a 400k bill, nice negative PR though, should put off anybody touching them with a barge pole!



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Word is no settlement has been reached with Sevco and Orlit. I hope Traynor's statement comes back to haunt them, I wouldn't be agreeing any 'terms' with Sevco after that shameless statement was put out.

[silverhibee]

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But what else can we expect from them? Their club is run with the same arrogance and, "we don't give a **** what anyone else thinks about us" attitude that has for so long been displayed by their fans.

!0 minutes of how horrible a lot they are.

And when did Strathclyde Police start to employ deaf and blind officers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen

[green glory]

@scotzine: Charles Green has claimed he has sent a letter to the prime minister over issues regarding the club

This is priceless!

[silverhibee]

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@scotzine: Charles Green has claimed he has sent a letter to the prime minister over issues regarding the club

This is priceless!

You would think he would by pass the PM and send it straight Lizzie, or he she still in the bad books.

[green glory]

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You would think he would by pass the PM and send it straight Lizzie, or he she still in the bad books.

I think Chuckie's problem is that in the age of social media, spouting lies and bull**** and expecting not to be found out is naive at best.

[Dashing Bob S]

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I think Chuckie's problem is that in the age of social media, spouting lies and bull**** and expecting not to be found out is naive at best.

I think this is the crux of it. His behaviour is that of an autocratic buffoon from another era. He's clearly out off his depth and all he can do is attempt to dupe Ranger's fans by whipping up the kind of persecution paranoia they have long accused their neighbours of exhibiting.

[green glory]

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-...-west-21370477

[Newry Hibs]

With the latest news of a possible winding up order for The Rangers - shouldn't Hibs.net take a stand and start a new meltdown thread to demonstrate our belief that The Rangers are a brand new club and shouldn't be associated with this excellent thread related to Rangers?

[Dan Sarf]

Chan ****!

[Dan Sarf]

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Chan ****!

Not swearing, honest. Chan F*ok is the Singapore bloke's name.

[PatHead]

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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-...-west-21370477

Any chance the case could be heard on the 14th February? The anniversary of their demise so that the sequal can be released on the same date.

[Jack Hackett]

Given that the statement issued by Sevco, if not written by Traynor, would have been approved by him, it's apparent that the 21st century has left the fat fraud behind.

His diatribes against the internet and the 'bampots' who infest it, in his then unofficial guise as media spokesperson for oldco, went largely unchallenged, probably as they were seen as opinion rather than fact.

Unfortunately for him, the 'official' statements from his new position as propagandist for Sevco will be dissected word for word, and the lies laid bare for the world to examine.

Greens decision to give him a job will backfire spectacularly, as the internet shows him up for the clueless buffoon that he is.

Traynor must stay

[green glory]

Jim Traynor.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxzdo8FfrW0

[ScottB]

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Given that the statement issued by Sevco, if not written by Traynor, would have been approved by him, it's apparent that the 21st century has left the fat fraud behind.

His diatribes against the internet and the 'bampots' who infest it, in his then unofficial guise as media spokesperson for oldco, went largely unchallenged, probably as they were seen as opinion rather than fact.

Unfortunately for him, the 'official' statements from his new position as propagandist for Sevco will be dissected word for word, and the lies laid bare for the world to examine.

Greens decision to give him a job will backfire spectacularly, as the internet shows him up for the clueless buffoon that he is.

Traynor must stay

Thing is though, the nonsense that comes out of the 'official channels' at Ibrox in the last year or so has been solely for the moronic element in their support and the tabloids that pander to them. We all know that everything that Green and Traynor utter is about as valuable analysis as the Iraqi Saddam employed to say 'all is well' as Coalition tanks rolled past behind him.

It doesn't stand up to scrutiny and it was never intended to. That our national media is either (or both) too scared to print stuff the morons won't like, or too desperate for their £££ to do what we all do is the real shame.

[Jack Hackett]

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Thing is though, the nonsense that comes out of the 'official channels' at Ibrox in the last year or so has been solely for the moronic element in their support and the tabloids that pander to them. We all know that everything that Green and Traynor utter is about as valuable analysis as the Iraqi Saddam employed to say 'all is well' as Coalition tanks rolled past behind him.

It doesn't stand up to scrutiny and it was never intended to. That our national media is either (or both) too scared to print stuff the morons won't like, or too desperate for their £££ to do what we all do is the real shame.

This time around though, it would appear that MSM is questioning the statements being issued. This is the quickest I've seen them respond that I can remember....I live in hope that this time, they won't let it lie.

[LeighLoyal]

I don't think it's any coincidence this popped up the week after they were horsed out their third cup of year. With no credit line, it was always going to tight when running costs are a reported £3m a quarter. Watch out for Cragie Whyte type friendlies vs Hamburg, Chelsea reserves and Linfield on cups days to raise some readies. Rangers is dead, Sevco is dying!

[ScottB]

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This time around though, it would appear that MSM is questioning the statements being issued. This is the quickest I've seen them respond that I can remember....I live in hope that this time, they won't let it lie.

I suspect it's a case of proper journalists getting involved again, I wouldn't hold out much hope for the sports ones asking any probing questions...

I did notice that the Beeb article is full of pandering nonsense about 'the current owners of the club' rather than risk pointing out the club is brand new.

[green glory]

If you haven't read the new statements in the official zombie site I suggest you do. JT pretty much calling on their fans to boycott all media not subservient to the Sevco cause.

Staggering stuff.

[leither17]

RANGERS are the subject of media reports and speculation which are at best misleading and at worst malicious.

In an ideal world, for instance, one in which journalism wasn’t at such a damning low it has to be investigated by the highest authorities with culprits facing jail sentences, there would be no need for this Club to respond.
However, because it has become clear Rangers cannot rely on basic honesty, decency or integrity from enough of the country’s media outlets we must speak for ourselves. We have a duty to our supporters to put the record straight.
Rangers have been disputing a payment to a foreign company, Orlit, although it should be stressed we have never said there is no bill to be met.
What we have said and what we are telling our supporters is that not all of the invoices submitted with regard to this bill are legitimate.
Clearly there has been a lack of understanding within the media about this when all we have done is refuse to be forced into paying sums we do not owe. It is as simple as that.
Who on earth would pay out when faced with a spurious request for money?
No matter what anyone else says, Rangers have agreed a figure to settle this issue and it is a figure which, as we have already tried to explain, is significantly less than the initial demand.
Only the wording, which would put this matter to rest once and for all, has still to be signed off.
And despite what some over-excited but desperately ill-informed bloggers claim, there is no threat of this Club being closed. That is downright malicious and ludicrous.
But let’s make one thing clear: If Orlit wish to instruct their lawyers to go to court then we will defend our position vigorously.
We are absolutely convinced we’d win but we did think it would be better to avoid giving our many detractors another bar with which to beat us over the head.
That’s why we made an offer to settle but we now find we are still being harassed.
The thought process seems to be that if we have £22m from the recent IPO we should just pay up. Bizarre. Why should we?
Of course we can pay the amount demanded – it is, as we’ve already stated, a small amount - but it is ridiculous to hand over more than is due.
The money belongs to Rangers and we will not give it out to anyone who comes along with invented invoices.
That would be reckless in the extreme and suggest that nothing has been understood from the past when Rangers were in effect mugged by money grabbers.
We are here to make sure that does not happen again. We do pay our bills on time and we have always been prepared to pay this one.
There are many people and journalists who will choose to disbelieve this truth but that is up to them.
They will continue to attack Rangers no matter what we say but this statement is not for them.
It is for our supporters. They deserve to know and understand the exact and precise state of play,
Rangers will not be closed. This Club will never run up crippling debts and we will not pay over-inflated salaries to players.
However, we will have a sensible pay structure which won’t threaten the club’s existence. That is what we believe the fans want.
Having said that, Rangers are rising and we will return to the top flight where we will be competitive again.
We are still very much at the beginning of a long road back and although there will be potholes to be negotiated, nothing will stop us.
Rangers are no longer soft touches. We will not bow to or run from bullies and we will not be pressured into handing out even £1 if it is not merited.
We are sorry if this, or the fact that Rangers are financially healthy, isn’t what people want to hear but this is the new reality.
It is for others to come to terms with that and also our continued revival. It would, however, be a pleasant change if we could be left alone to get on with our business.

[Jack Hackett]

Normally, one would highlight contentious parts of such a statement. In the case of this particular piece of work though, you'd just bold all of it.

As green glory says....staggering!