Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Www1875hfc]

Oh Dear.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/money/...le3587849.ece#

[Kaiser1962]

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Now it's Sevco tax case. Here we go again...................

http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.co...iry/#more-2453

Paragraph from the Dodds article in the Sunday Herald May 27 2012

"It's not that players are dodging tax, it's just that there are different avenues open to them to pay lower tax rates. There are schemes such as film partnerships that you could pay money into as an individual and so not pay higher tax rates. Image rights seem to be a more recent one that is popular in England."

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...n-tax.17704904

[CropleyWasGod]

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Now it's Sevco tax case. Here we go again...................

http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.co...iry/#more-2453

To be fair to the Huns (sorry, those two words in the same sentence), there's nothing in there that suggests they have been up to anything.

[Spike Mandela]

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To be fair to the Huns (sorry, those two words in the same sentence), there's nothing in there that suggests they have been up to anything.

No matter what you call them Rangers, The Rangers, Oldco, Newco or just plain Huns the one word that always comes to mind these days whenever you hear them mentioned is CORRUPTION.

[VickMackie]

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Oh Dear.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/money/...le3587849.ece#

Any chance of a copy and paste for non subscribers?

Is that not the same scheme that Neil Lennon invested in? Jimmy Carr as well I think.

[s.a.m]

http://scottishfootballmonitor.wordp...ailed-to-show/

Interesting piece by Stuart Cosgrove on Armageddon not happening, and the power shift from main stream media to social media etc,,,,

[PatHead]

It is a good blog however he doesn't really cover the power that the internet had on the "leaders" of SPL,SFA and co. Wish he had mentioned them as they were the ones pushing the story as much as the press. They still haven't received their penalty and continue to screw our game.

[The_Sauz]

Rangers are set to pay a final instalment of £800,000 to Rapid Vienna for former striker Nikica Jelavic, £200,000 less than the original agreed fee, to stave off the threat of a FIFA court case. (Daily Star/Daily Express)

How come Charlie boy said over 2 month ago, that all football debts were paid by servco, yet Dundee Utd said they never got paid, and now this
Is Mr Green a liar....Shirley no???

[Golden Bear]

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Rangers are set to pay a final instalment of £800,000 to Rapid Vienna for former striker Nikica Jelavic, £200,000 less than the original agreed fee, to stave off the threat of a FIFA court case. (Daily Star/Daily Express)

How come Charlie boy said over 2 month ago, that all football debts were paid by servco, yet Dundee Utd said they never got paid, and now this
Is Mr Green a liar....Shirley no???

"When Rangers returned as a newco, Rapid argued that because the Ibrox Club took the money from Everton for the sale of Jelavic in January this year, his club (Rapid) were due every penny of the deal that took the Croatian from Vienna to Glasgow two years earlier"

And who can argue?

[LeighLoyal]

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Rangers are set to pay a final instalment of £800,000 to Rapid Vienna for former striker Nikica Jelavic, £200,000 less than the original agreed fee, to stave off the threat of a FIFA court case. (Daily Star/Daily Express)

How come Charlie boy said over 2 month ago, that all football debts were paid by servco, yet Dundee Utd said they never got paid, and now this
Is Mr Green a liar....Shirley no???

Do Berz sh it in the woods?

[PatHead]

Due to the ongoings at Tynecastle Newco Rangers have kind of slipped out of notice. However that zombie share issue that was so 'over-subscribed' is, well,......

Not.
Now if you are a zombie with say £50 spare after giro day, you can buy shares as a 'collective purchase scheme' or a CPS as it will henceforth be known, oh wait a minute, that'll confuse them with the letters from the Crown Prosecution Service!!

Tune in next week for another fantastic idea when chuckles brings back the half penny share!!!!

If they can't raise the money from their real 400,000 bigotted support what chance have their Edinburgh cousins got?

[green glory]

https://twitter.com/paulmcc12/status/266821750363418626

Hmm.

[CropleyWasGod]

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https://twitter.com/paulmcc12/status/266821750363418626

Hmm.

You've read too many John Grisham novels

[euansdad]

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Due to the ongoings at Tynecastle Newco Rangers have kind of slipped out of notice. However that zombie share issue that was so 'over-subscribed' is, well,......

Not.
Now if you are a zombie with say £50 spare after giro day, you can buy shares as a 'collective purchase scheme' or a CPS as it will henceforth be known, oh wait a minute, that'll confuse them with the letters from the Crown Prosecution Service!!

Tune in next week for another fantastic idea when chuckles brings back the half penny share!!!!

If they can't raise the money from their real 400,000 bigotted support what chance have their Edinburgh cousins got?

Indeed. Worrying signs for the jumbos

[ballengeich]

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http://scottishfootballmonitor.wordp...ailed-to-show/

Interesting piece by Stuart Cosgrove on Armageddon not happening, and the power shift from main stream media to social media etc,,,,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...iness-20256232

While I don't use the word Armageddon, there are difficult financial times ahead. The worry about Rangers leaving the SPL was not the absence of their fans. That was a predictable amount, and a manageable percentage of clubs' finances. The unknown factor, and hence the cause of fear for financial managers, was the effect on sponsorship. My expectation is that sponsorship of individual clubs will hold up, but that there is likely to be a loss at the collective SPL level. That amount is not yet known and I see a level of complacency among fans.

For example, while exact figures haven't been published, I get the impression that the new Sky deal is at the same level as the previous one when an increase had been anticipated. I'm not aware of public information on how other sponsorship packages have gone.

The Clydesdale Bank's SPL sponsorship stops at the end of this season. That was going to happen anyway, but what replacement will be found?

The general financial situation means that companies would have been likely to have been cutting back anyway, but Rangers' departure may (we'll never know for sure) cause some to be less likely to contribute to Scottish football.

While the problems at Hearts and Dunfermline are not caused by Rangers' absence, there will be a requirement for clubs to be far more careful about their spending in future. That was needed anyway, but I think the requirement has become more urgent. The ones that make it should be stronger, but a few may disappear.

There's likely to be media campaigning to accelerate Rangers' return to the SPL. Imo that would be the ultimate disaster because of the number of supporters of other teams who would simply stop attending.

[s.a.m]

2 million views! Who would have thought this time last year, that Rangers would have provided so many with so much entertainment?!

[jacomo]

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2 million views! Who would have thought this time last year, that Rangers would have provided so many with so much entertainment?!

Good to see this back on the first page after being relegated due to recent events.

The race is now on for the mini-Huns to "go Zombie" too before the end of 2012. It's been an up and down year for Hibs - or more accurately, first down, then up!

[CropleyWasGod]

Finally, the truth is out.

Distract yourselves for ten minutes from Yamageddon, and read the untold story about Hunageddon.....

http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.co...football-club/

[PatHead]

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Finally, the truth is out.

Distract yourselves for ten minutes from Yamageddon, and read the untold story about Hunageddon.....

http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.co...football-club/

I really didn't know this had been so well planned. Does Minty get a Papal knighthood then? Will Cardinal Winning become a saint?

I knew it had nothing to do with Rangers all along.

[LeighLoyal]

I see the Sevco dobs have got a big cannon on the pitch at Mordor for their minutes silence today. The same shameless zombies that didn't pay the queen's tax and deprived the armed forces and NHS of money. Total morons.

[StevieC]

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I see the Sevco dobs have got a big cannon on the pitch at Mordor for their minutes silence today. The same shameless zombies that didn't pay the queen's tax and deprived the armed forces and NHS of money. Total morons.

It's to stop anyone from trying to leave the ground early.

[Seveno]

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I see the Sevco dobs have got a big cannon on the pitch at Mordor for their minutes silence today. The same shameless zombies that didn't pay the queen's tax and deprived the armed forces and NHS of money. Total morons.

A big canon, did you say ? Isn't that a bishop ?

[euansdad]

I hate rangers with a passion but one thing I have to hold my hands up to is te crowds they still get in division three. Pretty impressive

[PatHead]

They still dont get it! It was all Craigie or everyone else.............
Source Scotsman-

SANDY Jardine launched the celebrations of Rangers’ 140th anniversary yesterday with the claim that no other club could compare with their achievements. The former Rangers player, now a club ambassador, said the celebrations were a way of thanking the supporters for their backing during the financial problems of the past year.
“It’s about surviving and celebrating a fantastic history,” Jardine said. “I noticed Celtic are celebrating 125 years and they are a fantastic club. But – maybe I’m biased – they don’t come anywhere near what we’ve done in 140 years when you look back through our history.
“So it’s only right we should recognise our history and celebrate it. Celebrate that the club is now back and on it’s way to getting back on its feet.”
The recognised anniversary of the founding of Rangers in 1872 actually fell six months ago, when the club was still in turmoil after being placed in administration by former owner Craig Whyte. The commemoration will now take place at the home league game against Stirling Albion on 8 December, when a host of former players will take their bow on the pitch at half-time.
“Our 140th anniversary should have been the last week in May, but that’s when the club went into administration, so it was put on the back burner,” Jardine continued. “It’s important that we do celebrate our 140 years, because, six months ago, we might not have had a club.
“We have come through a difficult period and we have a long way to go. But we have started on a journey of rebuilding, and hopefully the club can get back on its feet and back to where we were as the leading force in 
Scottish .
Some observers continue to argue that Rangers’ history ended when the old club went into administration in February, and that the new company run by Charles Green does not have any trophies to its name. However, Jardine was adamant that, whatever the legal niceties about different company names, there is still continuity between 1872 and the present day.
“What we want to get across is that we are the same club – with the same strips, the same stadium and the same ethos. We want to give something back to the fans, because one of the biggest things to come out of all this has been their support.
“They have been nothing but fantastic. Every game is a sell-out and as long as the fans stay with us, we will get back on our feet.
“Everyone at the club is amazed at the passion and support they have given to us, and this is a thank-you to them. We will get a lot of ex-players back for the day and there will be a half-time parade to celebrate our 140 years.
“It has been hard to grasp what has happened. Being on the inside, you can understand, but other people are probably amazed that Rangers could go into administration and nearly die – all because of near enough one man: Craig Whyte.
“Now we want to put the club back on its feet. We can’t change what has happened, but we can make sure Rangers get back to the level we once were at – and we are all determined to get there.
“We are in a rebuilding process and the first year was always going to be really difficult, mainly because of the indecision of the SPL and the SFA and being so late on a decision. I think it was 12 hours before we played Brechin we got our licence [to play as a club and then we had to start to sign and re-sign players knowing an embargo was going to kick in. Had the SFA or the SPL reached an earlier decision, this club would probably have been further down the road in the recovery.
“I do know that, having witnessed everything since the start of the season, we will get back to where we were. Putting a time-scale on it, I’ve no idea.”

[euansdad]

His line on Craig whyte says it all. Nowt to do with murrays overspending then?

[Sir David Gray]

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They still dont get it! It was all Craigie or everyone else.............
Source Scotsman-

SANDY Jardine launched the celebrations of Rangers’ 140th anniversary yesterday with the claim that no other club could compare with their achievements. The former Rangers player, now a club ambassador, said the celebrations were a way of thanking the supporters for their backing during the financial problems of the past year.
“It’s about surviving and celebrating a fantastic history,” Jardine said. “I noticed Celtic are celebrating 125 years and they are a fantastic club. But – maybe I’m biased – they don’t come anywhere near what we’ve done in 140 years when you look back through our history.
“So it’s only right we should recognise our history and celebrate it. Celebrate that the club is now back and on it’s way to getting back on its feet.”
The recognised anniversary of the founding of Rangers in 1872 actually fell six months ago, when the club was still in turmoil after being placed in administration by former owner Craig Whyte. The commemoration will now take place at the home league game against Stirling Albion on 8 December, when a host of former players will take their bow on the pitch at half-time.
“Our 140th anniversary should have been the last week in May, but that’s when the club went into administration, so it was put on the back burner,” Jardine continued. “It’s important that we do celebrate our 140 years, because, six months ago, we might not have had a club.
“We have come through a difficult period and we have a long way to go. But we have started on a journey of rebuilding, and hopefully the club can get back on its feet and back to where we were as the leading force in 
Scottish .
Some observers continue to argue that Rangers’ history ended when the old club went into administration in February, and that the new company run by Charles Green does not have any trophies to its name. However, Jardine was adamant that, whatever the legal niceties about different company names, there is still continuity between 1872 and the present day.
“What we want to get across is that we are the same club – with the same strips, the same stadium and the same ethos. We want to give something back to the fans, because one of the biggest things to come out of all this has been their support.
“They have been nothing but fantastic. Every game is a sell-out and as long as the fans stay with us, we will get back on our feet.
“Everyone at the club is amazed at the passion and support they have given to us, and this is a thank-you to them. We will get a lot of ex-players back for the day and there will be a half-time parade to celebrate our 140 years.
“It has been hard to grasp what has happened. Being on the inside, you can understand, but other people are probably amazed that Rangers could go into administration and nearly die – all because of near enough one man: Craig Whyte.
“Now we want to put the club back on its feet. We can’t change what has happened, but we can make sure Rangers get back to the level we once were at – and we are all determined to get there.
“We are in a rebuilding process and the first year was always going to be really difficult, mainly because of the indecision of the SPL and the SFA and being so late on a decision. I think it was 12 hours before we played Brechin we got our licence [to play as a club and then we had to start to sign and re-sign players knowing an embargo was going to kick in. Had the SFA or the SPL reached an earlier decision, this club would probably have been further down the road in the recovery.
“I do know that, having witnessed everything since the start of the season, we will get back to where we were. Putting a time-scale on it, I’ve no idea.”

Genuine question.

How can a club that was only founded 6 months ago celebrate a 140th anniversary?

[Hibs Class]

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Genuine question.

How can a club that was only founded 6 months ago celebrate a 140th anniversary?

By getting an intellectual heavyweight like jardine to do the maths?

[euansdad]

I have no love for Celtic but this is why I have more of a regard for them personally than rangers. The Huns bang on about dignity but their real nature is arrogance, triumphalism and petty points scoring. You'd have thought what has happened to them would have brought them back down to earth a wee bit but obviously not so

[PatHead]

A friend's Golden Labrador he had for years died. They got another one, it looks the same to me, is his pet, its a labrador, gold, still goes for a walk with him but it isn't the same. His other dog is died and isn't coming back.

[CropleyWasGod]

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A friend's Golden Labrador he had for years died. They got another one, it looks the same to me, is his pet, its a labrador, gold, still goes for a walk with him but it isn't the same. His other dog is died and isn't coming back. Still gets the same joy out it though

.... and it still craps on everyone else's garden.