Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[ballengeich]

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“@BBCchrismclaug: Following talks between #Rangers, SPL and SFA tonight, it seems the situation remains at deadlock. No further forward with SFA membership”

“@BBCchrismclaug: Sticking point in way of #SFA membership is #Rangers insistence that they are not prosecuted for dual contracts.”


Note the use of the word 'insistence'. Arrogant *******s. Unbelievable!

For me continuation of the dual contract investigation is even more important for "sporting integrity" than which division Rangers restart in. They've applied for a transfer of Rangers' SFA membership so they have to accept responsibility for past misconduct as well as claiming the history of past success. If they don't then there's no reason for clubs to follow any rules on player eligibility again.

I believe that Green will not be particularly concerned about the stripping of past titles. I'd expect him to concede that as a possible result of the investigation, and if McCoist is so upset that he resigns that will be a bonus, bringing a much needed reduction in the wage bill without a payoff being required. What will worry him is possible other punishments that could have an impact on his financial plans. I suspect that's what he's trying to get an agreement on.

[CropleyWasGod]

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“@BBCchrismclaug: Following talks between #Rangers, SPL and SFA tonight, it seems the situation remains at deadlock. No further forward with SFA membership”

“@BBCchrismclaug: Sticking point in way of #SFA membership is #Rangers insistence that they are not prosecuted for dual contracts.”


Note the use of the word 'insistence'. Arrogant *******s. Unbelievable!

Grant Russell ‏@STVGrant

Further to Charles Green's claims on RangersTV earlier, SFA have told STV that Stewart Regan has no scheduled meeting with Green today

Someone's telling porkies.

[calmac12000]

Grant Russell ‏@STVGrant

Further to Charles Green's claims on RangersTV earlier, SFA have told STV that Stewart Regan has no scheduled meeting with Green today

Someone's telling porkies.

That's simply awful! In all honesty most of what's come out of Ibrox for the last six months has been at the very least somewhat economical with the truth. To be fair Reagan and Doncaster have not revealed themselves to be totally credible or consistent in the course of this saga either.
Nonetheless the issue of possible double contracts is so central to any notion of sporting integrity and fair play that what little kudos the Scottish game possesses, would almost certainly vanish instantly.
What is particularly galling is that non-Hun's supporters seemed to have been content, if not happy to allow the SFA/SFL to conduct their enquiries with all the haste of a condemned man.
Yet still the arrogant cheating Hun's are not happy, I ask you?

[SteveHFC]

[cabbageandribs1875]

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...titles-KO.html


A FOOTIE official’s family received DEATH THREATS after it was revealed crisis-hit Rangers could be stripped of titles.

And he warned SPL bosses he would QUIT if they took back honours won by Rangers

no more threats McCoist....just do it ya ****** ned sh@t-stirring classless TW@T

[Jack]

I suspect the problem will be with the dual contracts is that once found guilty UEFA will pile in with sanctions that could see the zombiehuns out of European competition for a lot longer than the minimum 3 years they are at the moment.

[jonty]

#SFA say decision on title stripping not been made but come aug10th #SPL committee will strip Rangers of titles & cups if CG accepts licence

[jonty]

One flew out of the cuckoos nest?

[Crazyhorse]

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One flew out of the cuckoos nest?

Was that GDSTV? Nice of him to put the record straight on a few of his important cases.


Its hard to know what to say except that its nice to see him involved with hunco...

[LeighLoyal]

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http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...titles-KO.html


A FOOTIE official’s family received DEATH THREATS after it was revealed crisis-hit Rangers could be stripped of titles.


And he warned SPL bosses he would QUIT if they took back honours won by Rangers

no more threats McCoist....just do it ya ****** ned sh@t-stirring classless TW@T

McCoist's crown as the cheeky chappy acceptable face of hunnery has definitely slipped. Classless wee ned.

[cockneymike]

It's pretty simple Huns; if you want to keep your sectarian history, you're going to have to pay some pretty severe penalties, including signing bans, stripping of titles, big fines and european bans.

If you want to get away without any of those, then you need to start again and confine the history to just that.

Which part of Fat Ally's small brain doesn't get that?

[johnrebus]

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I suspect the problem will be with the dual contracts is that once found guilty UEFA will pile in with sanctions that could see the zombiehuns out of European competition for a lot longer than the minimum 3 years they are at the moment.

Neither UEFA or FIFA have taken much interest in the Hun fiasco so far, so I wouldn't hold my breath. In the general scheme of world football we are irrelevant.

All we can hope for is that the SFA/SPL stand firm and not allow the accused to dictate to the the judge and jury what the punishment should be.

IMHO it is increasingly likely that there will be no Rangers playing football next season. In a perfect world I would doubt if they would ever come back at all.


But this isn't a perfect world.

[marinello59]

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Neither UEFA or FIFA have taken much interest in the Hun fiasco so far, so I wouldn't hold my breath. In the general scheme of world football we are irrelevant.

All we can hope for is that the SFA/SPL stand firm and not allow the accused to dictate to the the judge and jury what the punishment should be.

IMHO it is increasingly likely that there will be no Rangers playing football next season. In a perfect world I would doubt if they would ever come back at all.


But this isn't a perfect world.

They have already said it is a domestic issue. As long as Sevco go along with sanctions decided by the Football authorities in Scotland....(authorities? That's a laugh!)........then they willl stay clear.

[Jack]

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They have already said it is a domestic issue. As long as Sevco go along with sanctions decided by the Football authorities in Scotland....(authorities? That's a laugh!)........then they willl stay clear.

When the outcome of the EBT scam is out in the open and the SFA take the action they will be forced into (Sion / Swiss league / UEFA scenario) I don't think UEFA will be able to ignore all the matches where ineligible players were used in their competitions.

[Lungo--Drom]

Probably the 97% of it that is formed of residue chip fat and beer hops

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...Which part of Fat Ally's small brain doesn't get that?

[jgl07]

The Herald reports that the FA have instructed Southampton not to pay the Steven Davis to Rangers but to pass it to the SFA.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...newco.18237489

[LeighLoyal]

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The Herald reports that the FA have instructed Southampton not to pay the Steven Davis to Rangers put to pass it to the SFA.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...newco.18237489

At least some good news there.


It is perplexing (stomach wrenching) that they are going to be allowed to sign players. They owe millions across Europe to clubs, claim they are the same entity, but won't pay up. They should be barred from all transfers until that money is paid back if they claim one bead of Rangers Football Club's 140 year sectarian history.

[jgl07]

The fixture situation is no clearer from the BBC website.

The Rangers FC have fixtures against Brechin away (Challenge Cup) and East Fife at home (League Cup) but do not appear on the SFL3 Fixtures or League Table.

Even more puzzling is that Club 12 no longer feature on the SPL Fixtures although it still appears on the League Table. No mention of Dundee anywhere.

Dundee still appear on the SFL1 League Table but their first SFL1 Fixture against Dumbarton is listed as Postponed. Airdrie United appear in the SFL2 League table but not in either the SFL1 or SFL2 Fixtures. Stranraer also appear to be in limbo while appearing in the SFL3 League Table.

As I read things the only thing still to be decided is if Rangers will play in SFL3 or if they will be cast into the wilderness. Either way there is nothing to stop the SPL, SFL1, and SFL2 Fixtures being finalized. Not very professional given that the season starts in two/three weeks time.

I appreciated that fixtures will have to be adjusted in some cases to avoid Dundee and Dundee United being at home on the same day but that should not affect any of Dundee's away fixtures including that which should be happening two weeks on Saturday (away to Kilmarnock).

[TrinityHibs]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18972417

Who do we reckon is backing down on the dual contracts investigation and media rights then?

So thats the 24 hours up. I trust everything is now sorted at the hunnery

[Andy74]

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The Herald reports that the FA have instructed Southampton not to pay the Steven Davis to Rangers but to pass it to the SFA.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...newco.18237489

Southampton are stupid for paying any money to anyone for an ex Rangers player.

[hibeesdude]

The scraped knuckle drums over on rangers media seem to think licence has been granted and are waiting for official notification

[Onion]

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They have already said it is a domestic issue. As long as Sevco go along with sanctions decided by the Football authorities in Scotland....(authorities? That's a laugh!)........then they willl stay clear.

This is the same Huns that took the SFA to court just a few weeks ago, and appear to have got away with that. IMHO, they have not shown enough remorse or learned their lesson and need to be slapped until they do. Or put in the naughty corner for a season. NewHuns are acting like spoiled brats and need to be treated as such until their learn some humility and grow up.

[SmashinGlass]

Given that Portsmouth are now pretty close to Liquidation themselves, I wonder what steps will be taken to reconstruct the league setup down South to accommodate any newco that may come of it?

[Hibs Class]

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Given that Portsmouth are now pretty close to Liquidation themselves, I wonder what steps will be taken to reconstruct the league setup down South to accommodate any newco that may come of it?

I bet sevco have discussed the possibility of applying for any space created by portsmouth disappearing.

[Jim44]

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Southampton are stupid for paying any money to anyone for an ex Rangers player.

Southampton were not giving Newco money out of sympathy or the goodness of their heart. They were sweetening Green so that he would overlook the move which he claims is illegal,

[grunt]

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Southampton are stupid for paying any money to anyone for an ex Rangers player.

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Southampton were not giving Newco money out of sympathy or the goodness of their heart. They were sweetening Green so that he would overlook the move which he claims is illegal,

It doesn't matter how this is spun, Southampton are still stupid to have paid money they didn't need to. IMO.

[CropleyWasGod]

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It doesn't matter how this is spun, Southampton are still stupid to have paid money they didn't need to. IMO.

I am not so sure that they are. Clearly, Davis had a value to them, and they probably paid less than that; so they secured a player on the cheap, without having the uncertainty of waiting for clearance like the other clubs.

However, the key thing for me is whether Davis was employed (employed, not registered ) by Sevco or not. If he didn't transfer his contract, then Sevco were arguably acting fraudently in asking for money for him. If he did transfer his contract, then they probably have a right to the money.

[jamieross]

I see on twitter Robbie Savage has been whoring himself out to Sevco fans even going as far as to say he play for them for free! Says he could still do a job in scots D3. Wonder if anything will come of it?

[Waxy]

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I see on twitter Robbie Savage has been whoring himself out to Sevco fans even going as far as to say he play for them for free! Says he could still do a job in scots D3. Wonder if anything will come of it?

Major disrespect to the div3 teams.Perhaps every SPL team should loan Berwick a player for a year for free.See how long we can keep them down for.

[bighairyfaeleith]

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Major disrespect to the div3 teams.Perhaps every SPL team should loan Berwick a player for a year for free.See how long we can keep them down for.

What have berwick ever done to you that you would wish any of our players on them?

BBC reporting that broad agreement has been reached on membership. Hopefully it's as spot on as there reporting has been throughout this delightful little saga