Hibs transfer rumours

[truehibernian]

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I would have thought money or some of it at least would have went towards the squad from our cup final run and that day, but seems not, PF is making it quite clear that only money from ST will be his budget for this year, so any money brought in from sale of DW wouldn't go to Pats Budget but more than likely pay of debts at the club, and LC FC will be lucky to see any money from the Turkish club.

As i said a goalie and a striker and that may well be Pat's budget finished for this window, which would be a bit scary, i spoke to someone through the week and they said PF was working his socks of trying to get players to come to the club, but he is finding it difficult to get them here, seemingly was disappointed in not securing the lad from Falkirk as had watched him a number of times last season and was a target for PF.

I really do hope he has brought plenty of luck from over the water as i think he will need it, an injury to say Mcpake and another player and we are in the deep stuff, we can only go up the way next season, if not then you no what happens.

Have to admit i am a bit worried about the season ahead TH.

On the good side is i have a pix n mix from Morrisons for the night ahead.

I think that's where we are at as Hibees SH and hardly surprising after three seasons of utter mediocrity and very very poor recruitment. I am anxious, but anxious because I'm a little in the dark as to what style of play PF really favours.

There has been a really distinct lack of pace and width in the side for a few years. I'm a fan of the 'tanner ba' players and I really wanted to see us linked with good wide player (Hayes aside). We never seem to stretch sides and always play through the middle, quite slow build up play, very narrow - that kind of football annoys me. It's negative. Yes, folk will say 'oh but Spain/Barca play that way' - they have the beauty and benefit of having every single outfield player (and keeper) having the basic ability of football retention and keeping the ball moving. Hibernian players struggle, and I mean struggle, to pass a football back to the thrower from a shy !


I was always brought up on the very base principle of having a strong spine - solid commanding keeper, two commanding centre halves, playmaker in the middle, and solid front man. You build around that with pace and youth IMHO. I know that sounds basic, but it's what all good teams are built on.


Here we are before a season starts and we are without a keeper ! (Brown having not signed as yet) - I still remain unconvinced about Hanlon. We have no 'off your seat' midfielder - and we have no good, solid, link up/hold up striker. We have no genuine pace in the midfield/front area, albeit I honestly cannot believe he is sending young Danny Handling out on loan - both he and Ross Caldwell must shake their heads if they see the likes of Roy O'Donovan get ahead of them !


If we are in for Michilak I'd go for it. International experience, played for Leeds and did reasonably well, big and solid. I'd love, as I said last season, a Jason Koumas type player, someone who drives teams forward and has a bit of creativity - and I'd like a Jon Daly type up top to compliment Doyler and Ross Caldwell. I'd love Boothy to be given a crack at left midfield too.


I'd also (and I know I'll get stick for it) like to get Soares back - I think when he is on his game, he's a quality player. But that's the thing - getting him 'on his game'. Soares for me was always involved in good build up play which led to goals. Even giving him a floating role in the attacking midfield area with someone like Shiels playing in the same midfield - 4-3-3 offensive football (if we are not signing wingers) - seeing Claros, Lewis and Ozzy together in the same midfield again means only one thing.......side to side, slow, negative midfield play. None of them really want to commit and drive forward when they get the ball. The opposition get an eternity to regroup and get back into banks of four. We never occupy centre halves or full backs of opposition teams.

Get the back four solid, which I think he is doing in getting Clancy and McPake, have a good holding player in front (Claros for me), some creativity behind the front pair (Shiels for example or Soares), some bite and drive which can interchange with them (Cairney) and a leader (midfield) who can orchestrate in the opposition half and keep the pressure on and force the side forward.


Most important signing this summer though is a good, solid, commanding goalkeeper. Someone who when he shouts, you get the hell out of dodge - someone who pushes the team out it's own 6 yard box. Someone who the defenders absolutely trust. Second most important is a midfield general, someone who again drives the team forward and doesn't allow it to go into it's shell or get the crowd influencing their play if we are behind. Dare I say a Lennon or Keane.


And it's toffee bob bons for me tonight SH.......no doubt a dentist trip on Monday too

[cam75]

Did we lose out on SW move from rangers because of a sell on fee and whats that Chance of a brown sell on fee ?

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So based on what we have at the moment, in some variation of a 4-5-1 formation...

Brown
Clancy
McPake
Hanlon
Booth
Wotherspoon
Claros
Osbourne
Crainey
Stevenson
Doyle

Then god help us for the new season

The defense has been strengthened partially, we still need an experienced keeper, another defender, 2 midfielders and 2 forwards as a minimum going into the new season IMHO!!!

His name is CAIRNEY.

Crainey played for Celtic years ago.

[Piqué]

Stephen McManus being linked on twitter. Either on loan or permanent if freed by middlesbrough

[essexhibee]

Agent Scotland on twitter claims McManus linked with us. Also said previously deano will talk with hibs. Could be pish however.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

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Agent Scotland on twitter claims McManus linked with us. Also said previously deano will talk with hibs. Could be pish however.

This would excite me more than the McPake signing, but more unrealistic IMO.

McPake & McManus would rival any in the league, including Celtic tbh, get a solid keeper behind them, and think we'd actually be solid at the back since the Hogg/Bamba glory days

[DAVE1875]

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This would excite me more than the McPake signing, but more unrealistic IMO.

McPake & McManus would rival any in the league, including Celtic tbh, get a solid keeper behind them, and think we'd actually be solid at the back since the Hogg/Bamba glory days

You're using the words Hogg & glory in the same sentence?

[Iggy Pope]

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You're using the words Hogg & glory in the same sentence?

More medals than Bamba got for us I believe?

[weecounty hibby]

Mcmanus would be a good signing. If true it looks like PF is going for the hard to beat option first and then hopefully he'll move onto the silky football when that's done. I think longterm he will be good for our club

[frazeHFC]

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New GK

Clancy
McPake
New CB
Smith/Booth

New RM
Cairney
Stanton
New LM

Caldwell
Handling

I actually want us to win games.

[SloopJB]

Bob Malcolm has signed for East Fife, sees it as a stepping stone to get to Ibrox.
They are also in for Colin Samuel.

reserve league to run this year as well as the under 19's.

[SMAXXA]

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I think that's where we are at as Hibees SH and hardly surprising after three seasons of utter mediocrity and very very poor recruitment. I am anxious, but anxious because I'm a little in the dark as to what style of play PF really favours.

There has been a really distinct lack of pace and width in the side for a few years. I'm a fan of the 'tanner ba' players and I really wanted to see us linked with good wide player (Hayes aside). We never seem to stretch sides and always play through the middle, quite slow build up play, very narrow - that kind of football annoys me. It's negative. Yes, folk will say 'oh but Spain/Barca play that way' - they have the beauty and benefit of having every single outfield player (and keeper) having the basic ability of football retention and keeping the ball moving. Hibernian players struggle, and I mean struggle, to pass a football back to the thrower from a shy !


I was always brought up on the very base principle of having a strong spine - solid commanding keeper, two commanding centre halves, playmaker in the middle, and solid front man. You build around that with pace and youth IMHO. I know that sounds basic, but it's what all good teams are built on.


Here we are before a season starts and we are without a keeper ! (Brown having not signed as yet) - I still remain unconvinced about Hanlon. We have no 'off your seat' midfielder - and we have no good, solid, link up/hold up striker. We have no genuine pace in the midfield/front area, albeit I honestly cannot believe he is sending young Danny Handling out on loan - both he and Ross Caldwell must shake their heads if they see the likes of Roy O'Donovan get ahead of them !


If we are in for Michilak I'd go for it. International experience, played for Leeds and did reasonably well, big and solid. I'd love, as I said last season, a Jason Koumas type player, someone who drives teams forward and has a bit of creativity - and I'd like a Jon Daly type up top to compliment Doyler and Ross Caldwell. I'd love Boothy to be given a crack at left midfield too.


I'd also (and I know I'll get stick for it) like to get Soares back - I think when he is on his game, he's a quality player. But that's the thing - getting him 'on his game'. Soares for me was always involved in good build up play which led to goals. Even giving him a floating role in the attacking midfield area with someone like Shiels playing in the same midfield - 4-3-3 offensive football (if we are not signing wingers) - seeing Claros, Lewis and Ozzy together in the same midfield again means only one thing.......side to side, slow, negative midfield play. None of them really want to commit and drive forward when they get the ball. The opposition get an eternity to regroup and get back into banks of four. We never occupy centre halves or full backs of opposition teams.

Get the back four solid, which I think he is doing in getting Clancy and McPake, have a good holding player in front (Claros for me), some creativity behind the front pair (Shiels for example or Soares), some bite and drive which can interchange with them (Cairney) and a leader (midfield) who can orchestrate in the opposition half and keep the pressure on and force the side forward.


Most important signing this summer though is a good, solid, commanding goalkeeper. Someone who when he shouts, you get the hell out of dodge - someone who pushes the team out it's own 6 yard box. Someone who the defenders absolutely trust. Second most important is a midfield general, someone who again drives the team forward and doesn't allow it to go into it's shell or get the crowd influencing their play if we are behind. Dare I say a Lennon or Keane.


And it's toffee bob bons for me tonight SH.......no doubt a dentist trip on Monday too

I think your being very kind describing the last few seasons as mediocre, we've been shocking well below mediocre.

You make a lot of good points though in the rest of your post.

[DAVE1875]

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More medals than Bamba got for us I believe?

And look where each of them ended up, Hogg was like a lost kid at a fun fair without Jones

[zlatan]

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More medals than Bamba got for us I believe?

You're right. So did Simon Brown.

[Iain G]

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His name is CAIRNEY.

Crainey played for Celtic years ago.

Did you miss the news that we've signed Gerry Crainey, he looked fitter in training than O'Connor when on trial and he's 42...

[Ray_]

A small mention in the Scotsman online report saying Claros having now departed. Sorry if its been mentioned elsewhere, but I hadn't seen anything, nor do know if its true or not.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...lans-1-2398877

[Callum_62]

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A small mention in the Scotsman online report saying Claros having now departed. Sorry if its been mentioned elsewhere, but I hadn't seen anything, nor do know if its true or not.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...lans-1-2398877

would find that odd, wasnt Fenlon in paper a few weeks ago saying "after a pre season we will see the best of him"

strange if true.

[greenlad]

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A small mention in the Scotsman online report saying Claros having now departed. Sorry if its been mentioned elsewhere, but I hadn't seen anything, nor do know if its true or not.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...lans-1-2398877

He's not


the upshot being the vast majority of arrivals at that time were on loan with all but McPake, who like Clancy and Cairney has signed a two-year deal, and Honduran midfielder Jorge Claros having now departed.

Its all in the commas

[BEEJ]

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A small mention in the Scotsman online report saying Claros having now departed. Sorry if its been mentioned elsewhere, but I hadn't seen anything, nor do know if its true or not.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...lans-1-2398877

It's just very poor English, Ray. The largely irrelevant reference in commas to Clancy and Cairney just confuses the main point of the sentence.

I thought the same as you on first reading. I had to read the sentence over again another three or four times before I got what the journalist was meaning.

[Hamish]

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It's just very poor English, Ray. The largely irrelevant reference in commas to Clancy and Cairney just confuses the main point of the sentence.

I thought the same as you on first reading. I had to read the sentence over again another three or four times before I got what the journalist was meaning.

I thought the same as Ray when I first saw it.

My old English teacher would have had a field day with the paragraph.

[JHFC]

it is good English if you knew that what is between the commas can be completely removed and the sentence would still make perfect sense.

the upshot being the vast majority of arrivals at that time were on loan with all but McPake, who like Clancy and Cairney has signed a two-year deal, and Honduran midfielder Jorge Claros having now departed.

the upshot being the vast majority of arrivals at that time were on loan with all but McPake and Honduran midfielder Jorge Claros having now departed.

but of course that is not important

[Swindonfan]

You could sign alan connell from swindon if you like. Top scorer last season. Fans favourite. On a free amazingly cos dicanio dont want him now. Ok hes not the complete player. But is realistic. Works his socks off. Will get goals thou maybe not as many as you would wish. But always gives 100% and all fans appreciate that.

With the EPL having a 25 player rule thing. Couldnt Hibs look to team up with a EPL club and look to get them to pay some of the wages of some loans to get some decent young guys to Hibs. For the EPL club they would have a player who wouldnt be near thier first team getting games and Hibs would hopefully get a decent young prospect with the EPL club paying some of the wages.

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Did you miss the news that we've signed Gerry Crainey, he looked fitter in training than O'Connor when on trial and he's 42...

Sorry - just wondered if he was going to line up alongside our Central American midfielder Carlos that someone was rabbiting on about recently.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

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A small mention in the Scotsman online report saying Claros having now departed. Sorry if its been mentioned elsewhere, but I hadn't seen anything, nor do know if its true or not.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...lans-1-2398877

Him no rite English so good like

[Yuillsy]

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You're right. So did Simon Brown.

What medals did Simon Brown collect at Hibs?

[R'Albin]

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He's not


the upshot being the vast majority of arrivals at that time were on loan with all but McPake, who like Clancy and Cairney has signed a two-year deal, and Honduran midfielder Jorge Claros having now departed.

Its all in the commas

Surely even dashes would work slightly better ? I shouldn't have to read the paragraph multiple times to understand what the journalist means.

[Aldo]

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What medals did Simon Brown collect at Hibs?

He was backup keeper for CIS cup win

[BEEJ]

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it is good English if you knew that what is between the commas can be completely removed and the sentence would still make perfect sense.

I disagree. The part in parenthesis is utterly irrelevant to the main point of the sentence and therefore is a distraction.

It is a lazy technique of certain journalists to resort to the endless repetition from one article to the next of recent developments as a shortcut to fulfilling the word quota demanded of them by their editors.

[S.sct]

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Tom Miller onTalksport saying Mark Kerr andAlan Maybuty on trial

Maybury, no thanks.....

[SMAXXA]

So who thinks we will announce any signings this week and if so who do you recon?