Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[lucky]

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Found this quite interesting? See what you think.

http://saintinasia.wordpress.com/201...are-to-europe/

The SPL tv deal is only worth what someone is willing to pay so the saints fans tables are not really any value in the debate. The SPL gets what it gets because the EPL is the top league within our tv area. It would be better to compare against the welsh, Irish and Northern Irish deals

[Zondervan]

Well the mainstream media campaign for Newco into Division 1 is in full flight today, no doubt at the behest of the Newco press officer.

Goram in The Sun and Hately in the record spouting exactly the same message, almost word for word, about the Armageddon that will be Scottish football if Huns go to Div3.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...-our-game.html

http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/markh...get-divis.html

[lapsedhibee]

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Well the mainstream media campaign for Newco into Division 1 is in full flight today, no doubt at the behest of the Newco press officer.

Goram in The Sun and Hately in the record spouting exactly the same message, almost word for word, about the Armageddon that will be Scottish football if Huns go to Div3.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...-our-game.html

http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/markh...get-divis.html

Judging by the excellent statements we've seen from them so far, SFL chairmen are not stupid enough to be convinced by halfwits like Goram and Hately, so who is all this pleading supposed to be for? Is there some sort of concerted attempt now to compete with Celtc for the prize of most victimised club in Scotland?

[lapsedhibee]

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The SPL tv deal is only worth what someone is willing to pay so the saints fans tables are not really any value in the debate. The SPL gets what it gets because the EPL is the top league within our tv area. It would be better to compare against the welsh, Irish and Northern Irish deals

Shirley the saintee's point is that someone would be willing to pay more if the seller's competence were greater, non?

[Hainan Hibs]

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Well the mainstream media campaign for Newco into Division 1 is in full flight today, no doubt at the behest of the Newco press officer.

Goram in The Sun and Hately in the record spouting exactly the same message, almost word for word, about the Armageddon that will be Scottish football if Huns go to Div3.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...-our-game.html

http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/markh...get-divis.html

Blood boiling at reading those.

Hately "

By the letter of the law, it should be the Third Division but this isn't an ordinary case. Rangers and Celtic ARE Scottish football."


I just don't have the words.

[Jim44]

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The SPL tv deal is only worth what someone is willing to pay so the saints fans tables are not really any value in the debate. The SPL gets what it gets because the EPL is the top league within our tv area. It would be better to compare against the welsh, Irish and Northern Irish deals

Agreed. Doncaster could make mincemeat of the comparison. Surely the figures would only be relevant if it was the same TV company applying the same criteria in every country. Sorry if I've overlooked something obvious.

[McSwanky]

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Well the mainstream media campaign for Newco into Division 1 is in full flight today, no doubt at the behest of the Newco press officer.

Goram in The Sun and Hately in the record spouting exactly the same message, almost word for word, about the Armageddon that will be Scottish football if Huns go to Div3.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...-our-game.html

http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/markh...get-divis.html

What a laugh, Hately and Goram lecturing us on finance.

[Onion]

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Blood boiling at reading those.

Hately "

By the letter of the law, it should be the Third Division but this isn't an ordinary case. Rangers and Celtic ARE Scottish football."


I just don't have the words.

Don't worry about it. The more these idiots spout their bile, the more likely it is that the Huns will get their just deserts. This just adds to the "We Are Rangers" arrogance that riled so many SFL Chairmen - and which might yet see them plopped into Div 3. I'd be more concerned if these huns started to be all contrite and apologetic, as they're more likely to get a sympathetic hearing. But a hun is a hun. No one likes them, and no one cares anymore

[cabbageandribs1875]

Goram is just a mess....BOTH of him

[degenerated]

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What a laugh, Hately and Goram lecturing us on finance.

Perhaps one of the Andy Gorams is a financial expert, it might not have been the loyalist low life jakey one that wrote the whole article. :agree

[SouthMoroccoStu]

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What a laugh, Hately and Goram lecturing us on finance.

Irony can be pretty ironic some times.

As for the comment that rangers and Celtic are Scottish football so they should be allowed to flaunt the rules and be above the laws every else has to play by.......

What's to be expected, when they have been allowed to get away with it for so long. This is what these fools over in Glasgow genuinely think

[BEEJ]

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That is a belter of a statement from Raith, well done them

A rare oasis of informed straight-talking in this never-ending game of smoke and mirrors.

[greenginger]

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Irony can be pretty ironic some times.

As for the comment that rangers and Celtic are Scottish football so they should be allowed to flaunt the rules and be above the laws every else has to play by.......

What's to be expected, when they have been allowed to get away with it for so long. This is what these fools over in Glasgow genuinely think

Agree, and we have now got a chance to re-balance the game in Scotland and that chance must not be missed no matter what short-term damage is done to Club finances by breaking the Old Firm stanglehold that has ruined football in this Country.

[Hibercelona]

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Well the mainstream media campaign for Newco into Division 1 is in full flight today, no doubt at the behest of the Newco press officer.

Goram in The Sun and Hately in the record spouting exactly the same message, almost word for word, about the Armageddon that will be Scottish football if Huns go to Div3.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...-our-game.html

http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/markh...get-divis.html

Why oh why do I torture myself?!?!?!

I tell myself "No! I'm not putting myself through all of this again".

Then I click on the friggin links!!

[YehButNoBut]

Rangers Buzz‏@Rangers_buzzThe Record reports Charles Green is to give fans the chance to own half of Rangers with a new share issue to be announced next week

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footbal...6908-23905404/
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2012/07/07/rangers-in-crisis-charles-green-to-give-fans-chance-to-own-half-of-ibrox-club-with-new-share-issue-86908-23905404/


CHARLES GREEN is set to keep his promise to Rangers fans – by giving them the chance to own half the club.

Many supporters questioned Green’s reasons for buying the stricken club for £5.5million and some have backed consortiums fronted by Walter Smith and John Brown. But a stockbroker is now due to arrive from London next week to help the club launch a share issue.

And an Ibrox source said: “We’re going to announce shares will be offered for sale to supporters and this proves what we said at the start.

“We’re bringing a stockbroker up from London. People can come to the ground and register if they want a share.

“They will be given the opportunity to buy shares for the same price as everyone else and if they buy all that are available to them, they will own 50 per cent of the club.

“Contrary to what some claim, we’re going to do a lot of things we said we’d do and more besides. Things that are not yet public.”

[FranckSuzy]

Could the SFL vote just keep on being adjourned/delayed so that it unfortunately is too late for the start of the season? A la when a jury cannot reach a unanimous decision in a trial

[Waxy]

Hately and goram. Now i hope yous arent even allowed back into div3 and are destroyed

[Kaiser1962]

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Shirley the saintee's point is that someone would be willing to pay more if the seller's competence were greater, non?

Where the saintees tables could be questioned is that the population of the countries he lists, which is in theory your potential customer base, is not included. It would be interesting to see how things compared then.

By only glancing at it I would suggest that Norway and Denmark are high while Poland is extremely low. There are many other factors that may have to be taken into account in order to give a true reflection.

[stokesmessiah]

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“We’re bringing a stockbroker up from London. People can come to the ground and register if they want a share.

“They will be given the opportunity to buy shares for the same price as everyone else and if they buy all that are available to them, they will own 50 per cent of the club.

“Contrary to what some claim, we’re going to do a lot of things we said we’d do and more besides. Things that are not yet public.”

I like how they have made that sound all fancy by bringing up a stockbroker from london. If i were an orc i would bloody well hope he has a bowler hat, braces and a briefcase or i am not buying.

Just for fun why dont we print off some flyers that contain the pictures of the last lot of "rangers shareholders" as they left the meeting where they were told there money and rangers are gone. We could hand them out at Ibrox as people flood in with giro cheques in hand desperate to buy a piece of the institution that is Scottish football. Will be nice, we could make a day of it.

[The Green Goblin]

I bet next season and the season after that, that all those hun apologists who masquerade as journos and columnists will keep this annoying habit they still have, of referring to Sevco as "Rangers". This is a much more important issue than it may seem. It's important that this is not allowed to happen.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

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Hately and goram. Now i hope yous arent even allowed back into div3 and are destroyed

That's a very good point. Who says they have to be let into the league system at all?!?

Let Edinburgh Spartans (or another) in and maybe next time next time there is a league spot available, we will consider their application along with the others.

[greenginger]

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That's a very good point. Who says they have to be let into the league system at all?!?

Let Edinburgh Spartans (or another) in and maybe next time next time there is a league spot available, we will consider their application along with the others.

Could that be the reason Club 12 has not been named yet ?

[green glory]

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Hately and goram. Now i hope yous arent even allowed back into div3 and are destroyed

This.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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Well the mainstream media campaign for Newco into Division 1 is in full flight today, no doubt at the behest of the Newco press officer.

Goram in The Sun and Hately in the record spouting exactly the same message, almost word for word, about the Armageddon that will be Scottish football if Huns go to Div3.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...-our-game.html

http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/markh...get-divis.html

My opinion on huns in Div1 is well known.

But that decision is for the SFL cubs to make ... without moronic utterings from ex rangers players, or for that matter threats or pressure from the SPL.

Its this sort of crap which will get them punted to Div3 with no chance of Div1 .... nobody likes threats and nobody likes to be bullied ... and especially ... nobody likes to be told they are an afterthought to the main show.

"The old firm are Scottish football" .... my god, its like the last 6 months never happened ... these idiots have learned nothing!

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Blood boiling at reading those.

Hately "

By the letter of the law, it should be the Third Division but this isn't an ordinary case. Rangers and Celtic ARE Scottish football."


I just don't have the words.

Their ignorance and stupidity is astounding......Why don't all clubs outside of Old Firm, just not bother anymore and pack up....Let the Old Firm play each other every week, a derby on Sky every week, all the media and SFA delirious and salavating at the mere thought.....

[Baldy Foghorn]

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My opinion on huns in Div1 is well known.

But that decision is for the SFL cubs to make ... without moronic utterings from ex rangers players, or for that matter threats or pressure from the SPL.

Its this sort of crap which will get them punted to Div3 with no chance of Div1 .... nobody likes threats and nobody likes to be bullied ... and especially ... nobody likes to be told they are an afterthought to the main show.

"The old firm are Scottish football" .... my god, its like the last 6 months never happened ... these idiots have learned nothing!

They will never learn Bovril, we have to all bow down to Derhun and thank them for giving us endless supplies of money throughout the years.....All hail Derhun.....

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Hately and goram. Now i hope yous arent even allowed back into div3 and are destroyed

I must admit my stance has always been wanting them to die outright, and hope they take their Parkhead neighbours with them in the same casket....Bleeping Arrogant, ignorant, bile spouting, self righteous bleepers

[Hibercelona]

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They will never learn Bovril, we have to all bow down to Derhun and thank them for giving us endless supplies of money throughout the years.....All hail Derhun.....

How dare people try and speak up against them. Do people not realize just how much insignificant clubs such as ourselves owe to them?

We should be letting them straight back into the SPL and dig our hands deep into our pockets to ensure that they stay in a top 2 position.

[Kojock]

What really gets ma goat is how Goram etc continue to spout utter nonsense continually using words like VICTIMS, PUNISHMENT & DEMOTION

The only punishment meted out so far is the 10 point deduction for going into administration (which made no difference). The £160K fine that they cant pay and a transfer embargo which they appealed against and won.

The real punishment has been endured by all the individuals, companies and public services that they owe millions to. They are the real victims in all this. Not some unemployable jakey ******wit from Govan who has to queue up outside Boots Chemist everyday for his Methadone and has a gub like a row of condemned houses.

Hearts have even suffered a worse punishment than Der Hun as they are still owed a never to be seen again £800K by them.

Der Hun have NOT been demoted they have ceased to exist as a football club which can take any further part in the Scottish game. They are as dead as the proverbial parrot. What part of that is so difficult for Fat Traynor et al to understand. In the words of the Proclaimers its "Rangers no more"

The Newco have not been demoted they have never been in any league of any sort to have been demoted. If they apply for the vacant position left in the Scottish Leagues caused by Der Huns demise and are lucky enough to be accepted over other clubs such as Cove Rangers Spartans etc. They should count themselves lucky to be given the chance to compete in that league. If they are parachuted into Div 1 then Newco have been REWARDED and PROmoted up two divisions.

So please could all you overweight, overpaid and over promoted Hun apologists stop using those three words when giving your uneducated and unwanted opinion on this whole sorry mess which was created by Rangers own doing.

[Baldy Foghorn]

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What really gets ma goat is how Goram etc continue to spout utter nonsense continually using words like VICTIMS, PUNISHMENT & DEMOTION

The only punishment meted out so far is the 10 point deduction for going into administration (which made no difference). The £160K fine that they cant pay and a transfer embargo which they appealed against and won.

The real punishment has been endured by all the individuals, companies and public services that they owe millions to. They are the real victims in all this. Not some unemployable jakey ******wit from Govan who has to queue up outside Boots Chemist everyday for his Methadone who has a gub like a row of condemned houses. Hearts have even suffered a worse punishment than Der Hun as they are still owed a never to be seen again £800K by them.

Der Hun have NOT been demoted they have ceased to exist as a football club which can take any further part in the Scottish game. They are as dead as the proverbial parrot. What part of that is so difficult for Fat Traynor et al to understand. In the words of the Proclaimers its "Rangers no more"

The Newco have not been demoted they have never been in any league of any sort to have been demoted. If they apply for the vacant position left in the Scottish Leagues caused by Der Huns demise and are lucky enough to be accepted over other clubs such as Cove Rangers Spartans etc. They should count themselves lucky to be given a chance to compete in that league. If they are parachuted into Div 1 then Newco have been REWARDED and PROmoted up two divisions.

So please could all you overweight, overpaid and over promoted Hun apologists stop using those three words when giving your uneducated and unwanted opinion on this whole sorry mess which was created by Rangers own doing.

Spot on HSH, END OF!!!!!!!