Hibs transfer rumours

[bingo70]

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I'm not sure having more than one wee attack minded midfield player who can pass the ball and also beat a man will ever catch on.

In an ideal world we'd want a couple of them but with us having a reduced budget this season because of poor ST sales and also having so many new players to sign i'd be surprised if we'd use up some of our budget on two very similar players.

[PatHead]

Re Garry O

I really can't make my mind up whether I want him. If we could guarantee the player that started last season and we were all touting him for a Scotland call up it is a no brainer. If I had 2 serious court cases against me I don't think I would be performing to the best of my ability at work. Add in the injury which may have added to the lack of fitness and it may help excuse some of his performances. If we are signing him we would need to get a full pre-season as he is useless unless he is fit. Perhaps being surrounded by "better" professionals might help but I fear he will never learn. Maybe looking at Deek's current predicament might be a wake up call.

The bottom line is what can we get as an alternative who may be as good as a top Garry O on the same money?

I would hate to see him go to Aberdeen and knock in the goals. All in all a very difficult decision but my gut reaction would be to take him on a pay per play

[Andy74]

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In an ideal world we'd want a couple of them but with us having a reduced budget this season because of poor ST sales and also having so many new players to sign i'd be surprised if we'd use up some of our budget on two very similar players.

I'll disagree with many others in that I think in central midfield we aren't badly served with Stevenson, Claros and Ozzy - provided they are asked to do just the job they are suited for.

What we haven't had at all is anyone with any ability in an attacking sense from midfield either wide as wingers or in linking up from midfield to attack.

I'd imagine this is the missing link that would right a lot of wrongs in the team and would expect Pat to be lloking to sign 2 or 3 players who are either wingers or attacking midfield players, Cairney being one of them.

[Walter]

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No doubt you are familiar with all the details of the case Petrocelli.

Nope. And neither do I need to be aware of all the details of the case in order to form my own opinion, which I constructed thusly:

1. He has appeared in court on two separate various charges: I do not believe this is a co-incidence and that he has been unlucky. I don't care that they have no bearing collectively, because they have a collective bearing on my opinion.

2. He has been found guilty: If you do cannot do the time don't do the crime. Have some dignity and accept your punishment rather than whingeing and weaseling and acting as though you are some kind of victim who the justice system has punished unduly.

3. HIs tan is ridiculous. And his antics after the Cup Final to me just shows he is a 100% clown who will never learn.

This is my opinion, I am entitled to it. Have your own, but don't pick at mine.

[bingo70]

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I'll disagree with many others in that I think in central midfield we aren't badly served with Stevenson, Claros and Ozzy - provided they are asked to do just the job they are suited for.

What we haven't had at all is anyone with any ability in an attacking sense from midfield either wide as wingers or in linking up from midfield to attack.

I'd imagine this is the missing link that would right a lot of wrongs in the team and would expect Pat to be lloking to sign 2 or 3 players who are either wingers or attacking midfield players, Cairney being one of them.

I agree with this and agree we need more attacking players, however we've not got Cairney through the middle now so i'd expect us to try and sign a couple of wingers now rather than another player similar to Cairney.

[scott_hfc1875]

Anyone know what's happening with that kalonas guy , im sure a couple said we where having him back to take a look ,is that still on?

[scoopyboy]

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Nope. And neither do I need to be aware of all the details of the case in order to form my own opinion, which I constructed thusly:

1. He has appeared in court on two separate various charges: I do not believe this is a co-incidence and that he has been unlucky. I don't care that they have no bearing collectively, because they have a collective bearing on my opinion.

2. He has been found guilty: If you do cannot do the time don't do the crime. Have some dignity and accept your punishment rather than whingeing and weaseling and acting as though you are some kind of victim who the justice system has punished unduly.

3. HIs tan is ridiculous. And his antics after the Cup Final to me just shows he is a 100% clown who will never learn.

This is my opinion, I am entitled to it. Have your own, but don't pick at mine.

Does that make sense?

[Iceman1875]

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Nope. And neither do I need to be aware of all the details of the case in order to form my own opinion, which I constructed thusly:

1. He has appeared in court on two separate various charges: I do not believe this is a co-incidence and that he has been unlucky. I don't care that they have no bearing collectively, because they have a collective bearing on my opinion.

2. He has been found guilty: If you do cannot do the time don't do the crime. Have some dignity and accept your punishment rather than whingeing and weaseling and acting as though you are some kind of victim who the justice system has punished unduly.

3. HIs tan is ridiculous. And his antics after the Cup Final to me just shows he is a 100% clown who will never learn.

This is my opinion, I am entitled to it. Have your own, but don't pick at mine.

Agreed.

[JustSimplyHibs]

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I made my thoughts on our midfield (and one particular 'box to box' midfielder in particular) pretty clear during the season, absolutely honking and no where near good enough, however that doesn't change the fact that when the ball went forward it wasn't sticking so supporting our forwards was an impossible task.



We were good then, if the teams playing well then we can turn a blind eye to off field behaviour but when we're only staying in the spl with one game to spare and pumped off hearts in the cup final then they can expect to get there lifestyle scrutinized

Disagree with that, just because a team is good doesn't mean you allow them to go out on the ran dan every Saturday night, sorry but that doesn't wash. Seriously though were we good? we never won anything, leaked goals probably worse than last season our only saving grace was that we had hungry young players wanting to make a name for themselves and get better moves, which they done.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Why not take the Spanish/Craig Levein approach of not having an out in out striker in the team

[truehibernian]

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Signing shiels wouldn't be the same as going back to Ivan etc. Because he's already started his SPL career again at killie, successfully showing his talent. I think that shows we've got a manager who paid attention to other clubs last year.

Dean is one player I would welcome back with open arms. A player who actually progressed and learned the game from his time down south. One of the most intelligent 'off the ball' players I've seen too.

I remember bumping into Mixu in a Edinburgh public house :-) soon after the big man became manager. He simply couldn't believe why Deano wasn't a first pick under JC. He rated Dean as one of the best players at the club (and the SPL).

Really hope this story has substance.

[bingo70]

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Disagree with that, just because a team is good doesn't mean you allow them to go out on the ran dan every Saturday night, sorry but that doesn't wash. Seriously though were we good? we never won anything, leaked goals probably worse than last season our only saving grace was that we had hungry young players wanting to make a name for themselves and get better moves, which they done.

It's not what should happen but it does happen. If they're performing on the park they will get questioned less about what you get up to in there own time. IMO professional footballers should be tee-total during the season or certainly avoid getting drunk so you're preaching to the converted here.

I think they were good, certainly great to watch so people cut them a bit slack although my memory is that they did recieve some flak for being in george st too much.

[Spike Mandela]

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I'll disagree with many others in that I think in central midfield we aren't badly served with Stevenson, Claros and Ozzy - provided they are asked to do just the job they are suited for.

What we haven't had at all is anyone with any ability in an attacking sense from midfield either wide as wingers or in linking up from midfield to attack.

I'd imagine this is the missing link that would right a lot of wrongs in the team and would expect Pat to be lloking to sign 2 or 3 players who are either wingers or attacking midfield players, Cairney being one of them.

Another season with these 3 limited midfielders in our midfield would give us another season like last year imo. Completely outplayed each week last year and would provide at best a lower league placing or worse relegation. Hopefully Cairney is just a start.

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Transfer window has technically JUST opened and we have two months to find players with "bottle" to wear the bottle kit (best kit in years IMHO)

No. The season starts 5 weeks yesterday. Pat and the board need to shift themselves.

We need two strikers, another goalkeeper, another defender, and at least two midfield players. The squad is very, very thin. Even if we get those,m we'll probably need to strengthen in January.

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I'm not sure having more than one wee attack minded midfield player who can pass the ball and also beat a man will ever catch on.

I agree, Andy. I remember when we had Alex Edwards and Alex Cropley in the same forward line, and the team really sucked.

[Billy Whizz]

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Another season with these 3 limited midfielders in our midfield would give us another season like last year imo. Completely outplayed each week last year and would provide at best a lower league placing or worse relegation. Hopefully Cairney is just a start.

Stevenson, Osbourne and Sproule should not be 1st picks next season. Is Stevenson suspended for the 1st game anyway?

[Thomson]

http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/ju...2%2F7859036%2F

Looks like O'Connor won't be back.

[CallumLaidlaw]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11781/7859036/

[hibeesjoe]

I thought Dean Shiels had not long signed a contract with Killie. If true then i cant see them letting him leave

[The_Horde]

Can't see Gaz going back to Russia after the last time.

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http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman...line-1-2387345


Well, at least he won't be replaced by the Big Fat Jambo Crock.

Didn't realise it was a 2-for-1 deal - punt one, lose another for free.

[Andy74]

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I thought Dean Shiels had not long signed a contract with Killie. If true then i cant see them letting him leave

He's only been there on loan has he not? Is his contract also up at Darlington so he can move wherever he wants?

[KeithTheHibby]

Not sure how GoC can possibly play abroad and complete his 200 hours community service within the next 6 months at the same time?

[Billy Whizz]

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He's only been there on loan has he not? Is his contract also up at Darlington so he can move wherever he wants?

You mean Doncaster!
He's out of contract there now I believe so is free to do what he wants

[Stevie Reid]

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He's only been there on loan has he not? Is his contract also up at Darlington so he can move wherever he wants?

He was there on loan until January, then Doncaster released him and he signed for Killie until the end of the season. Definitely out of contract now.

[Westie1875]

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http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/ju...2%2F7859036%2F

Looks like O'Connor won't be back.

I wouldn't be too sure about that, he has a lot of community service to do over the coming months.

[GreenPJ]

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No. The season starts 5 weeks yesterday. Pat and the board need to shift themselves.

We need two strikers, another goalkeeper, another defender, and at least two midfield players. The squad is very, very thin. Even if we get those,m we'll probably need to strengthen in January.




I agree, Andy. I remember when we had Alex Edwards and Alex Cropley in the same forward line, and the team really sucked.

Do you honestly believe that we will bring in (on top of the 3 already announced) an additional 6 players and then bring in more in Jan? Whether its needed or not is a different question but I would have expected Pat to have put a case to Rod to say that this size of overhaul is probably a 2 or 3 window job.

[Thomson]

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Not sure how GoC can possibly play abroad and complete his 200 hours community service within the next 6 months at the same time?

This was my first thought too.

[silverhibee]

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Pleased with the signing of cairney, sounds like the kind of player we have been crying out for with plenty of game time in the 1st division and a hunger to step up and prove himself to boot.

I would be delighted if shiels came back as he is a much improved player and would walk into our midfield just now.

If o'connor Stays off the bevvy and properly knuckles down for next season I'd give him another year but if he is likely to be a disruptive influence in the dressing room then tell him to bolt

Its not the bevvy he needs to stay of.

[silverhibee]

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still lives over the road fi the west stand i think

Stays in Glasgow.

[silverhibee]

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http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/ju...2%2F7859036%2F

Looks like O'Connor won't be back.

I doubt he will be allowed to do his Community Service in Russia.