Hibs transfer rumours

[Kojock]

Paul Cairney signs

Full report here

http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20...262950_2828753

[bingo70]

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IF he is going back for GoC then the assumption must be that Griff isnt coming back. Bad move. Last thing the dressing room neeeds.

They're both a couple of erses and we're well shot of them. IMO Griffiths is massively over rated as well so not worth the hassle he brings.

New team New attitude and all that

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I don't know like, i reckon the guy has alot of wrongs he wants to put right, got to remember there was zero service to the front pair last season (and they still scored goals) however being supplied by a linking player like Shiels would probably double the amount of goals O'Connor plus one other will score.

IMO one of the reasons they never got any service was because of there inability to hold the ball up to bring midfielders into the game, the both of them are selfish strikers and not team players.

[JustSimplyHibs]

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They're both a couple of erses and we're well shot of them. IMO Griffiths is massively over rated as well so not worth the hassle he brings.

New team New attitude and all that




IMO one of the reasons they never got any service was because of there inability to hold the ball up to bring midfielders into the game, the both of them are selfish strikers and not team players.

That's right cause the ball was hit 40 yards in front of them all the time, of course no-one will hold that type of ball up or it was our midfield's inability to pick a perfectly timed pass. Most of the best forwards in the world are selfish.

[Andy74]

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IF he is going back for GoC then the assumption must be that Griff isnt coming back. Bad move. Last thing the dressing room neeeds.

Perhaps O'Connor isn't the type of person in the dressing room that we think he is??

[Thomson]

Agent Football ‏@AgentScotland
For the Hibs fans who asked - Paul Cairney is in the same mould as Pat McGinley #GoalScoringMidfielder

Never knew much about cairney but if this quote from twitter is anything to go by, i can't wait to see him in action.

[Brightside]

I dont disagree. Fresh blood, new winning attitude required. Cairney a promising signing. Two strikers required. One experienced, one youth.

[bingo70]

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That's right cause the ball was hit 40 yards in front of them all the time, of course no-one will hold that type of ball up.

I'm not suggesting our midfield was like having Pirlo, Xavi and Iniesta supplying them as i agree the service wasn't great but they definately could have done better in terms of link up play than what they did.

Griffiths first touch normally had the ball bouncing about hip height and GoC couldnae control a bag of cement last season.

They both got a good number of goals and credit to them for that but it's not just about them, as much as it kills me to say it, look at hearts, they've constantly had strikers that couldnae hit a barn door but they've got team players up front that bring midfielders into the game and allows the likes of S**cel and previously Hartley to score goals from midfield.

[bingo70]

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Perhaps O'Connor isn't the type of person in the dressing room that we think he is??

He was definately out getting smashed after the cup final. If this new team is really going to have a new attitude then do we really need or want that kind of carachter in it?

If we sign GoC then my opinion is that this whole new attitude thing is just a marketing slogan and nothing else.

[JustSimplyHibs]

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I'm not suggesting our midfield was like having Pirlo, Xavi and Iniesta supplying them as i agree the service wasn't great but they definately could have done better in terms of link up play than what they did.

Griffiths first touch normally had the ball bouncing about hip height and GoC couldnae control a bag of cement last season.

They both got a good number of goals and credit to them for that but it's not just about them, as much as it kills me to say it, look at hearts, they've constantly had strikers that couldnae hit a barn door but they've got team players up front that bring midfielders into the game and allows the likes of S**cel and previously Hartley to score goals from midfield.

I agree, however these guys can score goals given the proper service and support and the YAMs have midfielders with desire and a willingness to get forward to support...name three Hibs players from midfield that have that mould? Wotherspoon is the only one and he only seems to play well when it's for Scotland

[Bill Milne]

I would have thought Gazza exemplified the bad attitudes that Fenlon wants to get rid of?

[JustSimplyHibs]

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I would have thought Gazza exemplified the bad attitudes that Fenlon wants to get rid of?

Didn't hear anyone moaning when we had a team full of these players under Mowbray

[IWasThere2016]

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I would have thought Gazza exemplified the bad attitudes that Fenlon wants to get rid of?

GOC's been very lucky to still be a free man ... maybe we will see a totally reformed character?

[Andy74]

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He was definately out getting smashed after the cup final. If this new team is really going to have a new attitude then do we really need or want that kind of carachter in it?

If we sign GoC then my opinion is that this whole new attitude thing is just a marketing slogan and nothing else.

Or the manager might fance trying to manage him?

If he can recreate his start to last season and keep it up then he would be a decent asset.

It's going to be tough finding a couple of strikers that are better. It can be done of course, but I think a one year deal to see how it works out would be fine.

[GreenPJ]

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GOC's been very lucky to still be a free man ... maybe we will see a totally reformed character?

Let someone else take that risk.

[bingo70]

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I agree, however these guys can score goals given the proper service and support and the YAMs have midfielders with desire and a willingness to get forward to support...name three Hibs players from midfield that have that mould? Wotherspoon is the only one and he only seems to play well when it's for Scotland

I made my thoughts on our midfield (and one particular 'box to box' midfielder in particular) pretty clear during the season, absolutely honking and no where near good enough, however that doesn't change the fact that when the ball went forward it wasn't sticking so supporting our forwards was an impossible task.

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Didn't hear anyone moaning when we had a team full of these players under Mowbray

We were good then, if the teams playing well then we can turn a blind eye to off field behaviour but when we're only staying in the spl with one game to spare and pumped off hearts in the cup final then they can expect to get there lifestyle scrutinized

[bingo70]

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Or the manager might fance trying to manage him?

If he can recreate his start to last season and keep it up then he would be a decent asset.

It's going to be tough finding a couple of strikers that are better. It can be done of course, but I think a one year deal to see how it works out would be fine.

Maybe but I've got my doubts.

If he could recreate his form from the start of last season he should have done it throughout the season when we needed him to, the reason he never IMO is because he's got a stinking attitude and i had hoped we might have seen the last of that last season.

[calumb]

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GOC's been very lucky to still be a free man ... maybe we will see a totally reformed character?

aye you would think that but as he is planning to appeal the 200 hours community service then maybe he does not agree with you.

[Walter]

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aye you would think that but as he is planning to appeal the 200 hours community service then maybe he does not agree with you.

Personally I hope he gets an increased sentence for having the brass neck to appeal. He is the end of a belll

[Andy74]

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Maybe but I've got my doubts.

If he could recreate his form from the start of last season he should have done it throughout the season when we needed him to, the reason he never IMO is because he's got a stinking attitude and i had hoped we might have seen the last of that last season.

Yeah, I've my doubts too but I think he got an injury which probably explained a fair bit of the poorer form after his good start. The court cases won't have helped, but were obviously his fault.

Still, he got us key goals - away to Dunfermline, the cup semi final, and I wouldn't be so quick to discard him when we have lost so many others.

If he does get a deal I think it would be an indication that when he does attend his job at ER and training that he does actually show the attitude that Fenlon wants.

One of these that I wouldn't be that unhappy either way to be honest.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

In terms of ability, I wouldn't be worried about GOC coming back to us, but I would make sure that his contract was linked to his physical condition. For all the hoo hah and fall outs because he is " one of our own", his fitness level and application was disgraceful. At a time in his life when he needed to paint a positive picture, he looked like a punch drunk wino on the turn.

[flash]

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Personally I hope he gets an increased sentence for having the brass neck to appeal. He is the end of a belll

No doubt you are familiar with all the details of the case Petrocelli.

[bingo70]

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Yeah, I've my doubts too but I think he got an injury which probably explained a fair bit of the poorer form after his good start. The court cases won't have helped, but were obviously his fault.

Still, he got us key goals - away to Dunfermline, the cup semi final, and I wouldn't be so quick to discard him when we have lost so many others.

If he does get a deal I think it would be an indication that when he does attend his job at ER and training that he does actually show the attitude that Fenlon wants.

One of these that I wouldn't be that unhappy either way to be honest.

Yeah, fair enough.

I think my views on GoC are probably tainted by my opinion of him off the pitch. Maybe unfair as i don't know him personally but i just think he seems like an absolute weapon and i'm fed up having players in the hibs team that i cannae stand. Between him, Griffiths and Doherty i don't think i've ever liked a hibs team less and was hoping for a fresh start this season.

As you say though, if he does stay and scores goals for us i'm sure i'll get over it.

[goosefat]

In my opinion, if he’s given decent service (and I don’t mean 200 hours community) then, at the dizzy hights of SPL level, GOC will score goals. Last season the midfield was horrible. If we can get some fight, creativity and service from a fresh midfield then I think even a pie and coke filled GOC will provide a steady stream of goals throughout next season.

It’s just a case of whether we want all the baggage and hassle he also brings...

[IWasThere2016]

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aye you would think that but as he is planning to appeal the 200 hours community service then maybe he does not agree with you.

Didn't know that. Not a wise move IMHO.

[Stevie Reid]

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Two from twitter...

@AgentScotland: Dean Shiels has had informal talks about a return to Easter Road with Hibernian

Would be absolutely delighted if this was to come to fruition.

[MyJo]

Pleased with the signing of cairney, sounds like the kind of player we have been crying out for with plenty of game time in the 1st division and a hunger to step up and prove himself to boot.

I would be delighted if shiels came back as he is a much improved player and would walk into our midfield just now.

If o'connor Stays off the bevvy and properly knuckles down for next season I'd give him another year but if he is likely to be a disruptive influence in the dressing room then tell him to bolt

[Leishy1995]

Signing shiels wouldn't be the same as going back to Ivan etc. Because he's already started his SPL career again at killie, successfully showing his talent. I think that shows we've got a manager who paid attention to other clubs last year.

[RickyS]

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Would be absolutely delighted if this was to come to fruition.

still lives over the road fi the west stand i think

[bingo70]

From the way Fenlon describes Cairney i'd be surprised if we're going to go for Shiels as well, sounds like they're the same type of player

[Andy74]

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From the way Fenlon describes Cairney i'd be surprised if we're going to go for Shiels as well, sounds like they're the same type of player

I'm not sure having more than one wee attack minded midfield player who can pass the ball and also beat a man will ever catch on.