Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[21.05.2016]

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They should certainly be down there applying along with those clubs that's for sure

Agreed 100%

The 3rd division clubs get a vote too yea?

[alexedwards]

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If its true that this 75% is written somewhere and its now been changed to suit newco and this suddenly necessary reconstruction I will be sick. There's absolutely no end to the corruption!

You would be right. I heard the SFL will need to pull in independent lawyers to identify their rules and regulations - this has all the makings of corruption.
What? - a league that does not know it owns rules?

[alexedwards]

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He said that it was now up to the SFL clubs to decide. Where is the lie in that ?

Sometimes it's what you're not saying that lets everyone know if you are being truthful or not - the statement's a shocker - the guy's a liar
just like Doncaster, Regan, etc. He knew and he sold Hibs fans up the river - someone else on here said they did not believe he could lie -
do me a favour FFS - if the SFA had anything to do with this he's in it up to his neck - he's a.

[Bostonhibby]

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SPL clubs are worried that Sky will cancel their five-year TV deal worth £80m if the top flight went without a Rangers team for more than a season. (Sunday Times)

Good

Once the non Hun fans have sorted Rangers out surely its possible to then get an effective campaign going to cancel Sky subscriptions in response? You never know this might make them think about it. I'd certainly cancel mine.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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will rangers get into the 3rd div or is that no a bit unfair on the junior,senior,lower league teams who have been waiting to get in for years

Aye ... right enough ... one things for sure, admittance to the SFL has got nothing to do with how long a club has waited to get in.

Let me think ... a handfull of clubs with seating for 200 and standing room for 2,000 more, with no prospect of ever growing their fanbase or ever having a hope of changing the demographics of Scottish football.

Lets look at some the clubs who have been admitted recently:

Annan Athetic ....... doing what ?

Peterhead .... what impact have they made ?

Inverness Caledonian Thistle .... most disappointing of all IMO ... there was a club from a town where you were guaranteed a good crowd for Scottish cup ties when it had only Highland league clubs. I thought it was brilliant when ICT joined the league .. heres a club who can be the next Dundee Utd and really bring something to the table was my thinking.

Instead of that they have a rubbish stadium and home crowds of about 4,000.

So lets be realistic .... newco current buns should be a shoe in for SFL membership. Its one thing cutting off your nose to spite you face. Its quite another cutting off your whole bloody head.

Dont ya think ?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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It was suggested on BBC Sportsound this afternoon that Lawell must have been hoping that all the other SPL clubs would buckle and allow RFC back into the SPL while Celtic meantime could appease their own fans by voting 'No'.

That scenario has been well and truly blown out of the water by the intervention of non-OF supporters and their clubs responding accordingly.

Moreover change in the SPL voting system and income distribution now looks odds on as Club 12 will be likely to vote with the non-OF 10 to give an 11-1 majority on any new proposals to that end.

Celtic FC are now therefore in a bit of a quandary.

Celtc abstain simples!
Qveastion next!

[Part/Time Supporter]

With friends like this, who needs enemies?

Giovanni di Stefano writes to UEFA demanding that Rangers newco should be admitted to SPL.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Aye ... right enough ... one things for sure, admittance to the SFL has got nothing to do with how long a club has waited to get in.

Let me think ... a handfull of clubs with seating for 200 and standing room for 2,000 more, with no prospect of ever growing their fanbase or ever having a hope of changing the demographics of Scottish football.

Lets look at some the clubs who have been admitted recently:

Annan Athetic ....... doing what ?

Peterhead .... what impact have they made ?

Inverness Caledonian Thistle .... most disappointing of all IMO ... there was a club from a town where you were guaranteed a good crowd for Scottish cup ties when it had only Highland league clubs. I thought it was brilliant when ICT joined the league .. heres a club who can be the next Dundee Utd and really bring something to the table was my thinking.

Instead of that they have a rubbish stadium and home crowds of about 4,000.

So lets be realistic .... newco current buns should be a shoe in for SFL membership. Its one thing cutting off your nose to spite you face. Its quite another cutting off your whole bloody head.

Dont ya think ?

No i dont think, would the same rules apply if we were talking about Hibs?

[Twa Cairpets]

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Aye ... right enough ... one things for sure, admittance to the SFL has got nothing to do with how long a club has waited to get in.

Let me think ... a handfull of clubs with seating for 200 and standing room for 2,000 more, with no prospect of ever growing their fanbase or ever having a hope of changing the demographics of Scottish football.

Lets look at some the clubs who have been admitted recently:
Peterhead .... what impact have they made ?

Inverness Caledonian Thistle .... most disappointing of all IMO ... there was a club from a town where you were guaranteed a good crowd for Scottish cup ties when it had only Highland
Annan Athetic ....... doing what ?

league clubs. I thought it was brilliant when ICT joined the league .. heres a club who can be the next Dundee Utd and really bring something to the table was my thinking.

Instead of that they have a rubbish stadium and home crowds of about 4,000.

So lets be realistic .... newco current buns should be a shoe in for SFL membership. Its one thing cutting off your nose to spite you face. Its quite another cutting off your whole bloody head.

Dont ya think ?

Oh I dont know. If its 4000, that's about 7% of Inverness's population. Arabs at say 7000 is 4.5%. We run at about 2.5%
But I do agree with you about huns coming into div 3. Thats the right place.

[northgreen24]

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Celtc abstain simples!
Qveastion next!

yeah but an abstain is as good as a yes so will make there supporter clubs a bit foolish as they were all for boycoting all us little clubs if we did the same!!!!!!!


morals of an ally cat

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Once the non Hun fans have sorted Rangers out surely its possible to then get an effective campaign going to cancel Sky subscriptions in response? You never know this might make them think about it. I'd certainly cancel mine.

The problem for the gers fans and beauty for Sky is Sky has bundled Spl in with other leagues as far as I'm aware you can't say EPL, Serie A, La Liga and Bundesliga only but no SPL. So it's all or nothig

[Phil D. Rolls]

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No i dont think, would the same rules apply if we were talking about Hibs?

Would the same rules apply if Newcastle or Sunderland were trying to get in?

[Hibercelona]

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Aye ... right enough ... one things for sure, admittance to the SFL has got nothing to do with how long a club has waited to get in.

Let me think ... a handfull of clubs with seating for 200 and standing room for 2,000 more, with no prospect of ever growing their fanbase or ever having a hope of changing the demographics of Scottish football.

Lets look at some the clubs who have been admitted recently:

Annan Athetic ....... doing what ?

Peterhead .... what impact have they made ?

Inverness Caledonian Thistle .... most disappointing of all IMO ... there was a club from a town where you were guaranteed a good crowd for Scottish cup ties when it had only Highland league clubs. I thought it was brilliant when ICT joined the league .. heres a club who can be the next Dundee Utd and really bring something to the table was my thinking.

Instead of that they have a rubbish stadium and home crowds of about 4,000.

So lets be realistic .... newco current buns should be a shoe in for SFL membership. Its one thing cutting off your nose to spite you face. Its quite another cutting off your whole bloody head.

Dont ya think ?

Thats besides the point.

They are a new club, therefore they should start at the very bottom of it all like any other new club.

[magpie1892]

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Would the same rules apply if Newcastle or Sunderland were trying to get in?

Get in where? The SPL?

Using a cross-border comparison makes no sense in this context.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Would the same rules apply if Newcastle or Sunderland were trying to get in?

Why, have they gone bust, have they moved the boundaries, and do they fit the right criteria needed to join the SFL?

[Phil D. Rolls]

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Get in where? The SPL?

Using a cross-border comparison makes no sense in this context.

I used them as an example because they applied to the Scottish League in the 30s.

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Why, have they gone bust, have they moved the boundaries, and do they fit the right criteria needed to join the SFL?

No, hypothetical question. What I'm really asking is would the leagues turn away any club that could bring a big fan base to the competition?

[blackpoolhibs]

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I used them as an example because they applied to the Scottish League in the 30s.



No, hypothetical question. What I'm really asking is would the leagues turn away any club that could bring a big fan base to the competition?

Your question is really, could Newcastle or Sunderland buy a place in the SPL or the division below?

[Brando7]

Audi have just pulled the plug on their sponsorship deal with oldrangers, 45 motors to be handed back tomorrow.

On yir bikes boys

[Phil D. Rolls]

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Your question is really, could Newcastle or Sunderland buy a place in the SPL or the division below?

Yes, because that's what Rangers are trying to do. The point has been made about smaller clubs who should get a chance in front of them.

Someone else said would you allow a club with a 2000 seat stadium, and hard core fan base of 500 into the league in front of a club with a 50,000 seat stadium and fan base of, well, quite a lot.

The question we need to answer is this, is the league set up so teams can generate revenue through regular fixtures that bring big crowds. Or, is it set up purely as a sporting competition.

Personally, I'd rather see the second, because the theory that big clubs are good for our game has been shown to be flawed. However, it's only right to consider the original reason football leagues were set up - to generate cash.

[jgl07]

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Your question is really, could Newcastle or Sunderland buy a place in the SPL or the division below?

Why would they want to?

[Kaiser1962]

Your from Gala Bovril so you should be aware that Fairydean have made a number of applications to join the football league and are far more worthy of involvement than the Hun.

They had their go and blew it, so someone else should be given the opportunity.

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Aye ... right enough ... one things for sure, admittance to the SFL has got nothing to do with how long a club has waited to get in.

Let me think ... a handfull of clubs with seating for 200 and standing room for 2,000 more, with no prospect of ever growing their fanbase or ever having a hope of changing the demographics of Scottish football.

Lets look at some the clubs who have been admitted recently:

Annan Athetic ....... doing what ?

Peterhead .... what impact have they made ?

Inverness Caledonian Thistle .... most disappointing of all IMO ... there was a club from a town where you were guaranteed a good crowd for Scottish cup ties when it had only Highland league clubs. I thought it was brilliant when ICT joined the league .. heres a club who can be the next Dundee Utd and really bring something to the table was my thinking.

Instead of that they have a rubbish stadium and home crowds of about 4,000.

So lets be realistic .... newco current buns should be a shoe in for SFL membership. Its one thing cutting off your nose to spite you face. Its quite another cutting off your whole bloody head.

Dont ya think ?

[blackpoolhibs]

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Why would they want to?

No idea, it was FH's question? I just want whoever it is thats wanting to apply, just apply using the rules that are in place. Its a simple as that for me, any changing of these rules as they stand now, is buying a place at a tier you have no right to play at.

Why were Hibs allowed to be relegated, when we have a support much bigger than most? Why was there no restructuring of leagues to try and save us? Why Mr Doncaster, why?

What if New Rangers struggle in Division 1, and are relegated? Will we see this again next season?

What happens to the next team to go bust, where do they apply to on the way back to Scottish football?

There's a million other questions too, when the rules are in place now to quash them.

CORRUPTION IS ALIVE AND WELL IN SCOTTISH FOOTBALL.

[Bostonhibby]

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The problem for the gers fans and beauty for Sky is Sky has bundled Spl in with other leagues as far as I'm aware you can't say EPL, Serie A, La Liga and Bundesliga only but no SPL. So it's all or nothig

Yep, quite happy with nothing if I believe they are a factor in whatever shady deal is landed on.

[jgl07]

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Oh I dont know. If its 4000, that's about 7% of Inverness's population.

Ross County get similar crowds. What proportion of the population of Dingwall is that?

This may be a consequence of the forced merger of Caledonian and Thistle. I was told by an Inverness resident that a lot of supporters (from both Caledonian and Thistle) defected to Ross County after the merger.

[Kaiser1962]

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Oh I dont know. If its 4000, that's about 7% of Inverness's population. Arabs at say 7000 is 4.5%. We run at about 2.5%
But I do agree with you about huns coming into div 3. Thats the right place.

ICT average home gate for 2011-2012 was 4023. United was 7482. ICT's highest 6623 (v. Rangers) and lowest 3035 (v. St. Johnstone) United's highest was 11471 (v. Aberdeen) and lowest was 5232 (v. Killie)

Ross County had an average of 2874 (up 21.9% on the previous season) with a high attendance of 4737 (v. hamilton) with a low of 2047 (v.Livi)

Work is underway to make Victoria Park a 6000 seater stadium. Interestingly the population of Dingwall itself is less than that.

So Fairydean in front of Sevco it is then.

Given my previous post about Gala Fairydean I would like to point out that Galashiels has a population three times that of Dingwall and Netherdale has an all weather 3G artificial surface.

[down-the-slope]

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Good to see where the Fife clubs stand.

Good ol' Fifers.

Us fifers have balls and a refusal to to bend to pressure to change our views......stubborn buggers...

[SurferRosa]

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With friends like this, who needs enemies?

Giovanni di Stefano writes to UEFA demanding that Rangers newco should be admitted to SPL.

That`ll be the crooked lawyer that helped to practically finish off Dundee and the same shyster that was spouting some guff about being involved in a consortium, containing some royal family from Qatar (), that wanted to buy Cheats FC?

Dearie me......what part of cloud cuckoo land does this buffoon live on..

[jgl07]

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Us fifers have balls and a refusal to to bend to pressure to change our views......stubborn buggers...

Any news on which way Cowdenbeath are going to vote?

[Phil D. Rolls]

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Us fifers have balls and a refusal to to bend to pressure to change our views......stubborn buggers...

"Thrawn" is the word yahoor!

[Sir David Gray]

This proposal, if it's as I understand it, is actually worse than the proposal to reinstate the new Rangers into the SPL.

The idea that the new company would be admitted into the SFL and put into the highest division within that organisation is ludicrous in itself. Then the idea that the SPL would then pay the SFL around £1 million to be able to screen the new Rangers' matches beggars belief.

There is absolutely no way that this should be allowed to happen and all the clubs in the SFL should be uniting to ensure that it doesn't happen.

Anyone who is behind this proposal should be hanging their heads in shame and should be hounded out of Scottish football.

If there is going to be a new club coming into the Scottish leagues, it must be made to start in the lowest division.

If I was an Alloa fan just now, having just watched my team play a full season's worth of matches in the third division and getting promoted, on merit, to the second division, I would be absolutely disgusted at the thought of a brand new club being admitted into the SFL structure one division higher than my own team, without even kicking a single ball.