Your last 2 posts have been outstanding DBS. If skanko79 is looking for reasons as to why the sevco situation is getting so many peoples backs up he need look no further.
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30-06-2012 09:27 AM #15031
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30-06-2012 09:31 AM #15032
Apologies if posted earlier. I thought this was a good summary of just how ludicrous / pathetic the SFA proposals are. It defies belief that they have the gall to put this forward with a straight face.
http://wingsland.podgamer.com/the-lead-parachute/
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30-06-2012 09:37 AM #15033This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But this link provides an excellent summary of it, at the same time showing it up for what it really is.
That document has Doncaster's grubby paw-prints all over it. Time for him to receive his jotters.
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30-06-2012 09:40 AM #15034This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteEvery gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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Probably the best post I have ever read on this site and sums up my own feelings precisely.
I've supported Scottish Football for forty five years and suffered many agonies in that time - none more so than on the nineteenth of last month, but its all too much now. Even if the Hun do start again in Division Three, the intent has always been there to get them back in the SPL at all costs with minimum punishment. That Scottish Football is corrupt there is no doubt, and it looks increasingly likely that our own chairman is one of the main driving forces behind it.
IMHO the Hun should have been allowed to die. As DBS says, this whole farce reflects badly on Scotland as a country. I grew up in a town in central Scotland where 90% of my contempories were Rangers supporters. I could not understand it then and it remains a mystery to me to this day. How can other wise - some of them - intelligent decent people switch to being vile foul mouthed bigots as soon as football is mentioned and not see how stupid the whole thing is? I have already told my son, never to give his opinion in discussions about Rangers and Celtic with people he doesn't know as he will likely end up with a sore face or worse. These two football clubs - the former especially - are nothing but a cancer at the heart of Scottish society and we would be far better off without them both.
But for me it doesn't matter anymore what happens with the Huns now because I have already had enough and bought two season tickets for myself and my son at St James Park next season.
And do know what?
Am looking forward to it so much, I can't wait.
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30-06-2012 10:21 AM #15039
Regardless of what happens to THEM now, there will always be a bad wiff left behind.
I've always viewed the SPL as a bit of a joke, but now its gotten to the point where I can no longer view them as a football league. It doesn't deserve that title.
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30-06-2012 10:22 AM #15040
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Well written and some very good points.
This saga is rivaling the Edinburgh Tram saga - you do worry about society and the future of this country when there are people in high positions making terrible decisions.
It's a real shame as Scottish Football at a grassroots level is trying to get it's self sorted and right now all those so called role models and teams clubs these young kids want to play for are setting a terrible example.
If we think it's bad now think in 10 / 15 years and the game will be really struggling - all due to the monopoly of the Old Firm and I include Celtic as with them staying so quiet through this recently they are just as bad as that Ibrox lot.
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The Toon army are fantastic, they have been fed mostly crap for decades and yet still follow their team enthusiastically, you will be pushed to find many Man Utd, Liverpool or Chelsea glory hunters in the North East, fantastic fans.
Thats certainly what I want to see for Edinburgh The Lothians and for me The Borders .... A culture where supporting your local pro club, be that Hibs Hearts or Livingston is the natural thing to do and they day where the OF bigotry etc is a thing of the past along with unfairness and stupid voting systems.
So, to all of the fans out there who, like me, are willing to stay and fight for that ....... Cheers folks, we will get there.
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30-06-2012 10:59 AM #15044
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I'm loving how that 'document' is being punted as changing the leagues, when all it seems to be doing is adding a play off place at the top and a pyramid at the bottom.
No attempt to address the boredom that is playing 4 times a season, the ridiculous split, the arguably too many clubs competing in the national leagues, the lack of a reserve league or question of 'B' teams that have been floated in the past etc etc etc.
It is simply a fudge to get Rangers back in, but worse it will no doubt close off the prospect of real and much needed change for years to come.
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30-06-2012 11:38 AM #15045
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Bob...PLEASE send this as a letter to the Scotsman/Herald or somewhere like that. It needs to be read widely. Great post!
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Then I near pished myself when I realised it was the former currant buns...Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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30-06-2012 01:07 PM #15054This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The only way he'll get any return, realistically, is to sell the property.
Can't say I'm upset about any of this, frankly.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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30-06-2012 01:10 PM #15055
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Any chance of a copy and paste of the statement, for whatever reason the page with the statement winnae load fo me.
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30-06-2012 01:11 PM #15056
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Sat, 30th Jun 2012 12:48pm
The Club has received a set of papers in advance of the SFL meeting on Tuesday. The essential intent behind those papers is to induce the SFL clubs to agree a proposal to allow a Newco to enter the SFL in the 1st Division in exchange for a range of structural changes to the current set up and some small financial inducements. Some of the proposed changes have merit in principle.
The Board believe that any proposals for change should not be rushed, as these have been. They also have to be done by consensus and not through threat or inducement, again, as these have been.
The papers include a proposal to allow a Newco to enter the 1st Division. This is contrary to the rules of the SFL and nothing within the papers justifies this proposal.
As a club owned by its supporters and recovering from having been on the brink of extinction, the Board of Clyde Football Club recognise the damage done to the credibility of Rangers Football Club by its successive owners, and the subsequent impact on staff and supporters. These proposals do nothing to restore that credibility.
It is not for us to become involved in punishment, that is a matter for the SPL and SFA. The SFL clubs are being asked to change their rules so that the SPL and SFA can apply sanctions that fit short term financial interests.
It is not for us to tell any club what they should want for themselves, but to enter anywhere other than the 3rd Division risks Rangers Football Club being burdened with the legacy of commencing its rebuilding in a manner that they later look back on with regret. Rangers Football Club does not need to be handed a competitive advantage, they are more than capable of returning to the SPL via the 3rd Division on their own merit. Rebuilding from the bottom can restore the dignity stripped from the club by its former owners.
The papers use emotive language to threaten a future of financial meltdown and they carry the implication of the destruction of the game should a Newco not be entered in the 1st Division. If things are as bad as indicated then Scottish Football is in a far worse state than is being acknowledged. In which case it is time to accept the bankrupt model needs fixed and not supported and perpetuated on the back of this proposal. The fact that other clubs might face similar financial distress because Rangers Football Club enter the 3rd Division is hardly a reason to compromise the integrity of the SFL and further compromise Rangers Football Club.
Rather than attempting to prepare a soft landing before delivering sanctions, it would be better to contemplate more radical change that might actually underpin financial stability in the long term for clubs that balance their books. Perhaps an amnesty from sanctions for clubs that are forced to face insolvency procedures in the next 2 years as a result of the current turmoil, and an automatic entry to the 3rd Division for any club liquidated and reformed in similar circumstances. This would allow 2 years to properly restructure the Scottish Game for the benefit of all and undo the damage that has been created by the current structure which encourages club directors to trade integrity for cash, and then spend beyond their means, willingly risking the very existence of football clubs. If we could believe that the game could be less self interested long enough to resolve this, then this, and other far better ideas, might be worth contemplating.
SPL clubs that have openly stated their opposition to a Newco being given immediate access to the SPL have taken the position based on their, and at times, their supporters' view of what is the right thing to do, however, the vote has still to be taken and proposals such as these are premature. If the SPL clubs vote as indicated on the basis of the increasingly discredited notion of sporting integrity, it would be questionable if the SFL clubs did otherwise.
The reality is that we are faced with unique circumstances and it would be foolish to pretend otherwise, that probably means that compromise for some is inevitable, and perhaps even worthwhile for everyone in the long term. The solution however is not this hastily cobbled together proposal.
The Board of this club sees no merit whatsoever in adopting this proposal.
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Even if he does, if he sells it for substantially more than he paid for it, the creditors of RFC may well have a case for suing him for the profit. If he is an asset stripper, I reckon his plan was to make money from selling the players. That worked.
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30-06-2012 01:17 PM #15058
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You might have to take out the 4th line of the 3rd paragraph though...
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