Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[KdyHby]

I have the money for a season ticket in my bank account. If Newco end up any higher than div 3, I'll never be back to a Scottish league or international match.

[Hibs7]

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I'm completely finished with the game in Scotland, should this go through. You must make up your own mind what you do.

I will be the same as you if it goes through, but what can we do now to stop it being approved.

[Judas Iscariot]

A link to this post and all the others like it NEED to be emailed to the Hibs, SPL and SFA/SFL boards..

I'm sure the vast majority of other teams fans feel the same as what we do, they should do the same

[Baldy Foghorn]

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They will already be in div 1, the deed will have been done. The time to do something is now, not after the event.

Agree with the above, however IF RP has had an active role in the impending restructure, there should be a mass demonstration at home game vs Huddersfield calling for his napper on a platter.....

[Baba O'riley]

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I will boycott Scottish Football totally. I can watch the EPL instead. If this goes through Hibs are dead to me as they are complicit in it.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly; although not fussed about EPL. Will be done with the Scotland National Team too

[grunt]

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I'd be quite happy to see the back of TV money and all the ***** that goes with it.

Dave, I'm with you and I'd prefer a game with integrity and without all the baggage that Rangers bring. I'd be prepared to give up the Sky money (if that's what the £16m is, I don't know). But there are far too many others, people with vested interests in keeping their bit of the game going, who I expect will say, "we need that TV money". For me the important question is whether this estimate of lost revenue has any basis in fact. If it is the Sky money, and if Sky really have said that the deal will be £4m a year not £20m a year if you don't have Rangers and the OF games, then that will be a difficult scenario for many club Chairmen to contemplate. And I can see them swallowing their sporting integrity and allowing Rangers into SFL1.

[DH1875]

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No to newco demo at Hampden on Saturday at 2pm organized by various supporters clubs

Are the demos not at the grounds? I thought there was one planned for ER .

[lucky]

There is a demo at Hampden at 2pm against the newco Rangers on Saturday organised by various fan groups

[nairn hibee]

so much for all that media crap we used to here about bigotry etc being a curse for our game ,now there is a chance to end it for good ,and the media ,governing bodies ,and now it looks like the rest of our clubs show that they really could not care less about it anyway,i probably only go to about 7 or 8 home games now with the wife and kid so won't be missed ,but if they are not in the 3rd div or better still kicked out ,it will be full time highland league for me ,having said that will no doupt sneak back after a few years .gutted

[Jim44]

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I am RAGING right now. Absolutely disgusted with the latest announcement. I really do wonder what the point is. I actually feel sick with anger

Exactly. Who gives a toss about what players represent HFC in Petrie's charade. I feel sorry for Fenlon. He's become piggy-in-the-middle in a season which promises to be the beginning of the end of Scottish Football, if those who are threatening to walk away, stick to their principles.

[Scouse Hibee]

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Not at all wasting your time if you have been mis-sold a product, in fact every SPL could be on a sticky wicket if it's shown they have lied to there fans to get ST sales.

The fact it's on direct debit gives you additional security and protection.

Aaaaaaaaaah my point was the finance deal is with Zebra finance so any proposal to cancel said agreement would need to be directed to them and not Hibs. Please explain the mis-sold scenario for me, genuine question not a challenge to whether they have been mis-sold by the way in case you think I'm looking for an argument

[bighairyfaeleith]

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See the bit about buying the tv rights to Rangers (who don't exist) games in division 1?
Who is the SPL buying them from? Does that mean Sevco being handed £1m?

buying them from the first division teams, so they can't negotiate there own deal

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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If all this is true its all over for me and my laddie. I'll take him to rugby or some other respectable sport.

Avoid Harlequins (of bloodgate fame) then :)

[clerriehibs]

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The humiliation of the cup final last month is so much worse than Rangers getting into the 1st Division.

I was gutted after that ... at the moment, I'm disgusted.

[Jim44]

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A link to this post and all the others like it NEED to be emailed to the Hibs, SPL and SFA/SFL boards..

I'm sure the vast majority of other teams fans feel the same as what we do, they should do the same

By the way, how about lending Petrie your user-name.

[...WentToMowAnSPL]

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Right, I think the general consensus is that everyone is raging, so who do we vent this fury at, who do we tell our opinions to?

Stick the email addresses in this thread of everyone we should be emailing to complain.

I'll get it started with

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

Anyone got any SFA addresses, preferrably Regans?

Don't forget your councillors and MSP's

What is Scott Lindsay's email ?

[ancient hibee]

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All the SFL clubs are trying to set up a position from which they can make the most money.They don't want them in Division 3 because most grounds could not cope with an away support and it would cost them money.They will vote to allow them into Division 1 in return for some dosh being spread around-that way they will benefit financially from Rangers without bearing costs.

You read it here first folks-how can you be surprised?

[...WentToMowAnSPL]

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What is Scott Lindsay's email ?

i used all my intuition to make an educated guess - I've sent an email ... Apologies if there is another slindsay that works for Hibs

[Callum_62]

If the Newco get into Div 1, I also couldnt give a toss who we sign - Scottish football will be dead to me.

Bending, twisting and rushing through new rules / set ups for the immediate benefit of 1 club - absolute farce.

Where were the rule changes etc for Gretna, or Livi.....

[Jim44]

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See the bit about buying the tv rights to Rangers (who don't exist) games in division 1?
Who is the SPL buying them from? Does that mean Sevco being handed £1m?

I think they're talking about the other teams getting a few bob out of Div. 1 TV coverage. I'm sure I read somewhere that most Rangers away games will be televised so you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be a small fortune in it for them.

[ScottB]

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buying them from the first division teams, so they can't negotiate there own deal

So in effect handing Sevco £100k plus then whatever share they get from Sky for covering First Division games, all of which will presumably be taken out of the SPL pot.

[BarneyK]

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I'd be quite happy to see the back of TV money and all the ***** that goes with it. Yes, all our clubs will be a lot poorer, but real football fans won't desert their clubs. Pandering to the OF yet again will see a significant number wave cheerio and that's pretty sad.

Agreed. Give me "League of Ireland" level over this farce any day of the week.

[ekhibee]

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I was gutted after that ... at the moment, I'm disgusted.

yep, my sentiments entirely. Petrie will have to come out and say something as soon as possible, else there will be even less supporters at home games next season. It should be emphasized that we don't know if what has been said is actually true yet, but if it is, it must be 1 of the biggest PR disasters in recent years. The timing was extremely bad to say the least.

[Judas Iscariot]

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By the way, how about lending Petrie your user-name.

No lending but I will sell it to the highest bidder

[bighairyfaeleith]

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Aaaaaaaaaah my point was the finance deal is with Zebra finance so any proposal to cancel said agreement would need to be directed to them and not Hibs. Please explain the mis-sold scenario for me, genuine question not a challenge to whether they have been mis-sold by the way in case you think I'm looking for an argument

Not looking for an argument with you, someone, but not you

In terms of the tickets being mis-sold well, we are being sold tickets on the basis the clubs are voting for sporting integrity and then behind our backs they have done the opposite. They have lied to the fans to sell tickets.(allegedly)

We are being sold tickets on the basis that any team can win the league, any team can be relegated. Yet they are ensuring that only ten of the twelve can actually be relegated and only two can ever win.

By taking this action they are complicit in allowing the old firm to continue to cheat, yes cheat, there way to trophy after trophy. Therefore they are taking our money by deceitful means.

Personally I would take this all the way to the financial ombudsman, I might lose but I'd do it anyway just to ensure a rough ride for the money men.

We cannot sit back and accept this.

[BarneyK]

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buying them from the first division teams, so they can't negotiate there own deal

And presumably - as with the SPL - the team finishing top of the league will receive a disproportionate cut of this money - so the Huns are laughing...simples.

[lucky]

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Are the demos not at the grounds? I thought there was one planned for ER .

No it'd been changed to Hampden due to demand

[ronaldo7]

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Have I got this right, it's been a long day.

The SPL have threatened the SFL clubs in that if they don't agree to Newco into the First Division they'll start SPL2.

Where are the extra clubs coming from to make up SPL2?

Anybody

[Cabbage East]

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No it'd been changed to Hampden due to demand

Where are you getting this from? This needs to be coordinated properly or it'll look like people don't care.

[ancient hibee]

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Not looking for an argument with you, someone, but not you

In terms of the tickets being mis-sold well, we are being sold tickets on the basis the clubs are voting for sporting integrity and then behind our backs they have done the opposite. They have lied to the fans to sell tickets.(allegedly)

We are being sold tickets on the basis that any team can win the league, any team can be relegated. Yet they are ensuring that only ten of the twelve can actually be relegated and only two can ever win.

By taking this action they are complicit in allowing the old firm to continue to cheat, yes cheat, there way to trophy after trophy. Therefore they are taking our money by deceitful means.

Personally I would take this all the way to the financial ombudsman, I might lose but I'd do it anyway just to ensure a rough ride for the money men.

We cannot sit back and accept this.

Load of tosh I'm afraid.Any deceit would be fraud over the tickets-if you choose to borrow money to buy them well that's up to you.