Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[JohnStephens91]

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This thread in the bears den amused me. Life goes on as normal for some!!

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/inde...ntry1060157488

I seriously hope that guy was a troll and fishing for a reaction.

[Callum_62]

Davis, McGregor, Lafferty and Ness the latest to object:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18603617

[steakbake]

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Brilliant

That put me in mind of Dallas - when a year's worth of episodes was wiped out after they turned out to be a Bobby Ewing dream.

Brilliant.

[Steve-O]

Although most of the article is blethering nonsense that somehow takes about 15 paragraphs to get to the point, I can only hope that the prediction of them going to Division 1 is not in fact true.

[BEEJ]

He's been very well paid for years for playing the game of pandering to the majority within the Scottish football following, thereby keeping up the circulation figures for that rag he works for.

Another part of this game is to stir up a reaction from other minority interests.

It's not journalism. It's a football version of the Jeremy Kyle Show in print.

[Mon Dieu4]

Green was just on SSN saying he is still going to fight the players that have left, when asked if he expects more to go and his reply was just "one thing I've learnt when it comes to Rangers is to expect the unexpected"

looks like he knows they are totally done IMO

[Leithenhibby]

John Brown says sorry to Scottish football.......


“Since no one from the Rangers regime has had the balls to do, as a former Hamilton and Dundee player I want to apologise on behalf of my club to the whole of Scottish football.”

It's a start! ......

[lapsedhibee]

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He has belittled and poured scorn on the fans of the 10 saying we would never get our way ...

Called us "pious cyber nonentities". Imagine!

[MrSmith]

Jim Traynor = Scared and Desperate!

I my humble opinion, the way he is forcing this nonsense upon us, would suggest to me that he also has something to hide. I'll bet when the taxman cometh and serious fraud squad get involved ... there will be paperwork with a list of names on it, fingering those who were on murray mint's payroll and have accepted the succulent EBT!

Interesting times ahead methinks!

[Hibs7]

Traynor like his football club are in the past, best just to ignore him and he will fade away, especially if nobody phoned into his programme on a Saturday after sportscene, it would only be the mad Rangers fans and that would soon die a death.

[GreenPJ]

Fan pressure has stopped Rangers remaining in the SPL, it may also stop them going to Division 1. Fan pressure is the only thing that will stop people like JT having a forum to voice his drivel. Boycott the publications and media he appears in and am sure the editors will react quickly enough.

[Ryan91]

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Great minds think alike I've already started on this as part of the next survey and was going to float it for feedback then invite idea's on how to structure it question wise.

So my draft attached just so that when I float you don't think I'm nicking your ideas.


http://cl.ly/2k1q1X1B272V3U3S2l3M

Just one wee problem with that setup - the league cup requires teams to play each other home & away, giving 10 games, would it not be better to play 5 games in the group, time constraints would be a problem. Failing that open it up only to the first two divisions and have 8 groups of 4 playing home & away, top 2 go through.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

The world has changed greatly recently with regards to the number of sources now available to "keyboard nonentities" to find out what is going on in the big, bad world. Unfortunately for them, people like JT have yet to realise this.
Time for these guys to go the same way as the dinosaurs.

[CropleyWasGod]

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John Brown says sorry to Scottish football.......


“Since no one from the Rangers regime has had the balls to do, as a former Hamilton and Dundee player I want to apologise on behalf of my club to the whole of Scottish football.”

It's a start! ......

WTF did Hamilton ever do wrong?

[Phil MaGlass]

How about a poll on the newspaper involved with a few choices,

wont read again
never bought it
no intention of buying
read it dumped it
Refuse to buy it through its terrible non investigative coverage of the hun saga

Im sure someone could come up with better choices, it also might catch on with other supporters forums and fans can boycott the paper/radio station.(fan power)

[greenginger]

Perhaps we can get a purge of the various BBC and Newspaper Jurnos who have repeatedly reported biased and dishonestly throughout this saga.

Mind you, they will have to be pushed, they don't do walking away when fat pay-cheques are to be had.

[grunt]

Luke Shanley ‏@LukeShanleyCharles Green labels #Rangers players 'opportunists' by lodging their objections to newco in interview with @HamiltonRory #skysportsnews

Pot, meet kettle.

[JimBHibees]

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Jim Traynor = Scared and Desperate!

I my humble opinion, the way he is forcing this nonsense upon us, would suggest to me that he also has something to hide. I'll bet when the taxman cometh and serious fraud squad get involved ... there will be paperwork with a list of names on it, fingering those who were on murray mint's payroll and have accepted the succulent EBT!

Interesting times ahead methinks!

Wouldnt rule that out at all.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Now that the succulent lamb has finally finished these guys are trying to force feed us 5 days old donner kebabs purchased from a van outside Ibrox, fortunately most of us are not prepared to stomach it any longer.

[brydekirk]

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They won't get into the First Division. It'll be the Third Division, if any.

Correct

[JeMeSouviens]

Today's shock news: I agree with a Daily Mail comment piece. (Reeling). Scroll down for the Hun related bit but also the bit about Juve.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...#ixzz1yyfWPq4R

[Brizo]

Traynor is nothing more than a shock jock whose lack of any journalistic integrity is probably the reason why he cant understand sporting integrity. When Rangers join the SFL and play his alleged team Airdrie im not convinced he will be looking for a dirty diamonds win.

[bawheid]

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Jim Traynor = Scared and Desperate!

I my humble opinion, the way he is forcing this nonsense upon us, would suggest to me that he also has something to hide. I'll bet when the taxman cometh and serious fraud squad get involved ... there will be paperwork with a list of names on it, fingering those who were on murray mint's payroll and have accepted the succulent EBT!

Interesting times ahead methinks!

Absolutely.

Add to that the fact that without Rangers, much of Traynor's reason for employment is gone. The new Scottish football will have no place for a*se-licking lackies like him.

He'll be soiling himself, there's no doubt. You can add Chick Young to that too.

[H18sry]

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...newco.17985342


I love this bit

"This is the same Rangers whose supporters threatened to torch our stadium and whose manager demanded that one of our directors was named over his involvement with an SFA judicial panel, which resulted in TV cameras camping outside his door and threats being made by various outlandish factions.

"We also had Sandy Jardine publicly calling for repercussions for those clubs who have not supported Rangers. Given that, how could I, as an individual, be expected to roll over and have my tummy tickled by some inducement to allow Rangers to come into the First Division? I gave my opinion to the board on Monday night and the board had a position which was not in any way different from my own.

[Stevie Reid]

"When they get together next week they should have their heads bowed not because of the severity of the judgment about to be handed down but because of shame. What they are about to do has absolutely nothing to do with integrity or justice.

They will vote, as they always do, for self preservation knowing that more than one season without Rangers and the money their presence will generate would risk their own survival.

They know Rangers should be sent to the Third but can't afford to lose them for too long and the irony is that even though Rangers probably want to go all the way to the bottom they won't be allowed.

Like Mario Balotelli in front of England's goal the fans themselves have missed a sitter, a gilt-edged chance to bring much-needed integrity to the game. But if they could just get rid of their bloodlust they could make amends."

Absolutely unbelievable. Nothing more I can say.

[Hibbyradge]

"The SFA is attempting to broker a deal between the SPL and SFL which could allow Rangers entry to the first division, therefore minimising the amount of financial damage caused on top-flight clubs by Rangers' absence.

The perception they will gain promotion in their first season could persuade Sky to preserve its deal. In return the SFL would seek the return of a promotion play-offs, a more equitable distribution of income, and a potential merger of league bodies. It is believed enough clubs will be supportive of the proposed deal and will vote in favour of it."

How wide of the mark is he?

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...newco.17985342

[Saorsa]

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"The SFA is attempting to broker a deal between the SPL and SFL which could allow Rangers entry to the first division, therefore minimising the amount of financial damage caused on top-flight clubs by Rangers' absence.

The perception they will gain promotion in their first season could persuade Sky to preserve its deal. In return the SFL would seek the return of a promotion play-offs, a more equitable distribution of income, and a potential merger of league bodies. It is believed enough clubs will be supportive of the proposed deal and will vote in favour of it."

How wide of the mark is he?

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...newco.17985342

well he better be many miles away from it as far as I'm concerned.

[Hibbyradge]

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well he better be many miles away from it as far as I'm concerned.

Have the folk who are lambasting Traynor actually read his article? I suggest you do before spouting off.

He's basically saying that a deal has been cut to let Newco into Div 1 and as such the claims of Sporting Integrity from the SPL club chairmen is spurious and hypocritical. He thinks the fans are about to get hoodwinked.

He goes on to argue that Rangers should start again in Division 3.

If he's right that a deal has been struck, as the Herald also seems to think, I agree with him.

[GreenPJ]

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Have the folk who are lambasting Traynor actually read his article? I suggest you do before spouting off.

He's basically saying that a deal has been cut to let Newco into Div 1 and as such the claims of Sporting Integrity from the SPL club chairmen is spurious and hypocritical. He thinks the fans are about to get hoodwinked.

He goes on to argue that Rangers should start again in Division 3.

If he's right that a deal has been struck, as the Herald also seems to think, I agree with him.

The SPL have no jurisdiction over the SFL and so whether they are placed in Div 1 or Div 3 is not a decision of the SPL chairmen to make, all they could do is not let them entry to the SPL. Now whether the SFL and SFA are lacking integrity is another question but the chairmen may have a preference for having Rangers back in sooner than later but ultimately they don't have the decision now.

Traynor is also the man who not that long ago was saying that Rangers had been punished enough (i.e. 10 point penalty and financial penalty) and they should be left alone. He is hypocrisy at the highest level and whilst I agree that the authorities have a duty to do the right thing and expel them to the 3rd its just his usual dig at everyone other than the party who has done wrong. Typical Rangers mentality that really its someone else's fault that they are in this mess.

[bawheid]

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The supporters were adamant that Rangers newco shouldn't be allowed an SPL share, or licence, but rather naively they assumed that would mean Rangers being shunted all the way down to the Third Division.

Wrong. Their mantra "no to a newco" didn't spell it out and their clubs will be able to say they've met the demands of their fans by sending Rangers to the First Division but not the Third. The supporters didn't make their wishes crystal clear. Not too smart lads.

Any SPL club who thinks their fans will buy this gerrymandering hasn't been listening properly.