Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[snooky]

"Clubs across the country will now get the chance to give historic plans the green light."

Typical weighted DR reporting.
Surely they should have said "Clubs across the country will now get the chance to give historic plans a green or red light?"

It's all this psychological/subliminal stuff that really gets to me. They are trying to egg everybody into giving the answer they want to hear.
Every one of these little innuendos pushes me further away from the rigged setup that is Scottish Football.


We would all be as well watching re-runs of yon infamous Scotland v Estonia game. It was less one-sided.

[Dashing Bob S]

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"Clubs across the country will now get the chance to give historic plans the green light."

Typical weighted DR reporting.
Surely they should have said "Clubs across the country will now get the chance to give historic plans a green or red light?"

It's all this psychological/subliminal stuff that really gets to me. They are trying to egg everybody into giving the answer they want to hear.
Everyone of this little innuendos just pushes me further away from the rigged setup that is Scottish Football.


We would all be as well watching re-runs of yon infamous Scotland v Estonia game. It was less one-sided.

The sole reason the Record still exists is so that dim trolls who follow the OF can be duped into spouting senseless ***** at each other. It has zero credibility. Some of the so-called spokespersons for Rangers should be less concerned about which division they'll be playing in, as which prison they'll be serving their forthcoming sentences in.

[Stevie Reid]

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The sole reason the Record still exists is so that dim trolls who follow the OF can be duped into spouting senseless ***** at each other. It has zero credibility. Some of the so-called spokespersons for Rangers should be less concerned about which division they'll be playing in, as which prison they'll be serving their forthcoming sentences in.

Possibly the most succinct post I've ever read on this forum, Bob.

[matty_f]

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Looks like it'll be 1st Division if anything for them!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footbal...6908-23899716/

So the SPL have to fund the compensation to the first division clubs to let Sevco in?? Away and throw s**** at yersels!! Just get Sevco tae **** and be done with it.

[1875godsgift]

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Looks like it'll be 1st Division if anything for them!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footbal...6908-23899716/

If this is the way forward for Scottish football then count me out! My money and my interest ( and my family's ) will be going elsewhere.
People who cheat should either be contrite and admit their transgressions or be battered into submission.
If the club that used to be called rangers showed some form of remorse then my opinion would, perhaps, change.
As it stands, I hope the cheating, repugnant, bigoted, arrogant and vile sectarian football club that was rangers re-emerges as
" The pink fluffy cloud football co. who love everybody and are nice to animals "




In division 3

[The Green Goblin]

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So the SPL have to fund the compensation to the first division clubs to let Sevco in?? Away and throw s**** at yersels!! Just get Sevco tae **** and be done with it.

Indeed. 1 year from now, newco club come back up to the SPL, with no debts and their assets intact....after well over a decade of cheating, the scale of which is beyond imagining plus using tax money to pay players they couldn't normally afford. A just sanction that fits the crime? I don't think so.

[AmericanHib]

Excellent point. You would expect a sincere mea culpa from someone at Rangers to the supporters of other clubs. What I have seen from the higher-ups at Rangers are the 3 D's: Delay, Deny, & Defend.

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If this is the way forward for Scottish football then count me out! My money and my interest ( and my family's ) will be going elsewhere.
People who cheat should either be contrite and admit their transgressions or be battered into submission.
If the club that used to be called rangers showed some form of remorse then my opinion would, perhaps, change.
As it stands, I hope the cheating, repugnant, bigoted, arrogant and vile sectarian football club that was rangers re-emerges as
" The pink fluffy cloud football co. who love everybody and are nice to animals "




In division 3

[Onion]

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Looks like it'll be 1st Division if anything for them!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footbal...6908-23899716/

So, what the DR is saying that in just a few hours of chat they have totally restructured Scottish Football and will execute these plans within 6 weeks - laughable

For what they've done, a drop of one league for 1 year is not a punishment, its a holiday :roll eyes:

If the SFA/SPL are drumming up some kind of soft, escape route for these crooks, then the SPL is dead. The fact that they are even TALKING about this is disgraceful, and "tantamount" to corroboration.

[Spike Mandela]

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So, what the DR is saying that in just a few hours of chat they have totally restructured Scottish Football and will execute these plans within 6 weeks - laughable

For what they've done, a drop of one league for 1 year is not a punishment, its a holiday :roll eyes:

If the SFA/SPL are drumming up some kind of soft, escape route for these crooks, then the SPL is dead. The fact that they are even TALKING about this is disgraceful, and "tantamount" to corroboration.

Some very worrying and disturbing talk of subverting the independant appellate tibunal in this article, if true Scottish football truly is defunct........

http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/

[fit o' the walk]

" RAPIST GETS ONE YEAR SENTENCE,AFTER CONTINUOUS YEARS OF RAPE" ...........This should be the headlines if they get a one year slap on the wrist demotion.They have raped Scottish football for all these years...criminal!!

[Springbank]

That Celtic quick news link shows up that the hooped cheek of the old firm bottom is just as selfish as the blue cheek.

The sport of football in Scotland would be better off, more competitive, and would produce better footballers without them.

That link shows the of don't get it

[Cabbage East]

Can everyone calm down and stop taking that Daily Record story as fact? It's the Daily Record ffs, there are no quotes, its utter nonsense and so far fetched it really doesn't deserve to be given any credence.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Anyone half decent fancy knocking up a coffin with Scottish football R.I.P? On it with the nailheads depicting the main culprits - the football authorities and OF apologist journos?

[stokesmessiah]

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Can everyone calm down and stop taking that Daily Record story as fact? It's the Daily Record ffs, there are no quotes, its utter nonsense and so far fetched it really doesn't deserve to be given any credence.

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Anyone half decent fancy knocking up a coffin with Scottish football R.I.P? On it with the nailheads depicting the main culprits - the football authorities and OF apologist journos?

I love that the next post after the can everyone calm down is quite calm and by no means dramatic.

[Jack]

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So, what the DR is saying that in just a few hours of chat they have totally restructured Scottish Football and will execute these plans within 6 weeks

TBF Rod explained this league reconstruction to a group of supporters at the time of the 10 team league idea, other sizes were also mentioned. So while the idea has been fully considered its still odd its resurfaced this weekend follow following them being effectively barred from the SPL.

[greenginger]

I take these proposed alterations will have to be put to a General Meeting of the SPL ( 21 days notice ) and as a special resolution covering distribution of commercial revenues ) must be passed by 90 % of the Clubs.

Not a chance, I hope.

[blackpoolhibs]

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" RAPIST GETS ONE YEAR SENTENCE,AFTER CONTINUOUS YEARS OF RAPE" ...........This should be the headlines if they get a one year slap on the wrist demotion.They have raped Scottish football for all these years...criminal!!

Not really correct, as the rapist still gets to rape, he just cant rape the better looking ones for a year.

[down-the-slope]

Before everybody soils their clean Sunday morning boxers...we have a publication which is slightly less reliable than polititians when it comes to 'reporting' facts...that exists on sales to a narrow 'readership' that has little positive to say right now about either of them (transfers etc) so in the absence of that a little bit of hyperbole over a few thin stories with little quotes is par for the course...

The story involves the SFA / SPL / SFL who have proved that their own self existence is paramount, and have demonstrated the ability to move change to the game forward at a pace that would shame a constipated snail........

The idea that they could agree anything let alone instigate it in the timescales even without the fact that they are membership organisations which require the vote of their memberships to make anything more than basic changes......


Much much more interesting is how with a week to go until the end of June when a lot of contracts end, and SEVCO 5088 - without a bank willing to take them on - with no income can meet its wage bill to the players it is trying to brow beat into moving to it....

[Onion]

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TBF Rod explained this league reconstruction to a group of supporters at the time of the 10 team league idea, other sizes were also mentioned. So while the idea has been fully considered its still odd its resurfaced this weekend follow following them being effectively barred from the SPL.

I'm not against reconstruction, just hate the unseemly haste to get it sorted simply for the Huns benefit. It is disgusting and makes me want to puke. I'd be much more in favour of an 2 tier SPL from season 2013/14 allowing enough time to implement properly, allow clubs to prepare properly, and have a rule that promotion and entry to the SPL requires 3 years trading accounts Now that would be a fit and proper way to proceed.

[blackpoolhibs]

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I'm not against reconstruction, just hate the unseemly haste to get it sorted simply for the Huns benefit. It is disgusting and makes me want to puke. I'd be much more in favour of an 2 tier SPL from season 2013/14 allowing enough time to implement properly, allow clubs to prepare properly, and have a rule that promotion and entry to the SPL requires 3 years trading accounts Now that would be a fit and proper way to proceed.

Exactly, this if it is to happen needs to be thought about a little more than 6 hours in a hastily arranged meeting, with only one agenda.

Apply the rules as they are now, let any newco thats looking to apply for entry into the SFL enter where every newco should enter. Then lets have proper debate over the course of the coming season, and bring together proper reconstruction that will take our game forward.

[ancienthibby]

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[Jim44]

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That Celtic quick news link shows up that the hooped cheek of the old firm bottom is just as selfish as the blue cheek.

The sport of football in Scotland would be better off, more competitive, and would produce better footballers without them.

That link shows the of don't get it

Exactly, their gripe has nothing to do with justice or sporting integrity. It's all about money and what's in it for them.

[snooky]

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I'm not against reconstruction, just hate the unseemly haste to get it sorted simply for the Huns benefit. It is disgusting and makes me want to puke. I'd be much more in favour of an 2 tier SPL from season 2013/14 allowing enough time to implement properly, allow clubs to prepare properly, and have a rule that promotion and entry to the SPL requires 3 years trading accounts Now that would be a fit and proper way to proceed.

The SFA/SFL/SPL don't do "fit and proper" unless it suits their 'agenda'.

[StevieC]

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That Celtic quick news link shows up that the hooped cheek of the old firm bottom is just as selfish as the blue cheek.

The sport of football in Scotland would be better off, more competitive, and would produce better footballers without them.

That link shows the of don't get it

I was just about to post exactly the same after reading it.

It shows that Celtic are just as greedy as their counterparts and have no interest in improving the Scottish game!

[cad]

Like many on here Ive read with great interest most of the posts even thrown my 10p in on occasion ,Ive found it fascinating to see other peoples take on NewCo`s predicament ,the frustration at Scottish footballs administrations failure to administrate ,some of the ways people have described these situations are classics ,"The guns loaded but nobody wants to pull the trigger " comes to mind, others stating sound argument's on the basis of rules applied to other clubs or rules put in place to combat the very situation NewCo/Rangers/Club12 find themselves in .

It all comes down to integrity and accountability for me , anything else manipulated to afford NewCo a quick return because of their financial clout will maybe see thousands walk away ,the vote coming up will determine Scottish footballs future ,going by certain protagonists in the media it changes day to day, the propaganda they spout which NewCo supporters feast on ,has been dismissed as utter nonsense by the rest of Scotlands football fans after a few journalists void of taking the Huns pieces of silver picked up on the story and had a delve into the underworld of RFC finances .
Thanks to Channel 4 and the Beeb they rattled Mr Moonbeams and C W`s cages the things that fell out are still being investigated by HMRC , and
The Serious Crime Squad and they will be for some time , Duff & Duffer theyre in all sorts , Charlie Greene is definitely not everybody's darling,but he is the only show in town ,Walt brought the cardigan out briefly but thought better of it ,TBK are still kicking around , Clarity McCoists still wanting clarity and the NewCo supporters well thats another story.
Ive been on FF and RM more than a few times, more than a Hibs supporter should be TBH, all just to get both sides of this dilema see how the other half thinks sort of thing ,sadly there in lies the problem, they dont think ,thinking isnt there strong point , it comes down to well read for yourself ,a more obnoxious self centered dont give a toss about anyone bigoted bunch of pricks to every put a finger on a keyboard,I know most people are not interested in them which I understand,but if there's anybody in any doubt about NewCo /Club12/ or The Govan Stealer's , take a look at these posts from FF and RM and tell me a year out would be a sufficient punishment only for this lot to return debt free spouting the usual pash ,its Div3 at the very least IMO.




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http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/inde...owtopic=223720 .......http://forum.followfollow.com/showthread.php?t=880554

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/inde...owtopic=223706........ http://forum.followfollow.com/showthread.php?t=880485

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/inde...owtopic=223636........ http://forum.followfollow.com/showthread.php?t=880552




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[grunt]

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The proposed solution whereby the SPL and SFL merge, and Rangers end up in the second tier of the Scottish game, is a mechanism to try to keep everybody happy, because it could be the death knell of Scottish football if a newco Rangers are sent down to the Third Division.

I honestly don't know what to say...

[clerriehibs]

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I honestly don't know what to say...

You don't need to say anything; apparently we'll all be happy.

Regan and Doncaster are nothing but administrators, and they're not even from Scotland. They have absolutely NO idea of how Scottish fans really feel about pandering to the cheats.

[Benny Brazil]

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I honestly don't know what to say...

Just what I was about to post as well grunt.

[truehibernian]

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I honestly don't know what to say...

I wonder if Billy sees the irony in him on the one hand fawning over the idea of Rangers in SPL2 in order to ' save Scottish football', then on the other hand stating his sheer enjoyment of travelling to East Fife to work with real honest guys in a lower league, whose board would no doubt benefit from a couple of visits a season from Rangers.......a club who have 'survived' in the Scottish football family for over 100 years.....no doubt by cutting their cloth accordingly and relying on real fans and a board putting their money into a club they love.

I think people like Dodds need to remember that ' Scottish football' extends beyond the SPL......it's four top divisions with each club having history, fans and owners who abide by the laws of the game and try and live within their means both financially and morally. Rangers have shamed the WHOLE of Scottish football Billy !

[MyJo]

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http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...title.17952798

He is a tool.