Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Offside Trap]

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Hilarious. Talk about scaremongering, do it our way or we leave!! Our source said they are thinking about it. Article then goes on to say they don't know if it's even possible... Absolute pish. This has obviously been put out by Greens ppl and it is a twofold release in that 1) it attempts to put pressure on Spl chairmen to do as they say and 2) the Orc hordes will.be curling one out and start buying in to Chas Green!!!

Pure propaganda and absolute tripe on so many levels. Pretty sure the Football League Chairman made a categoric statement just a couple of months ago saying Rangers and Celtic have got no chance of joining the Football League.

[robinp]

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Good old Roddy sounding upbeat about his latest exclusive which allegedly sees Sevco5088 admitted to SPL and immediately relegated to 1st division. Don't see how that would work but he says this is the club chairmens' preferred route and "placates" fans. Once again no justice in Scottish football if this happens.

Ha ha that's very funny. I think it would do the opposite, but hey, I'm just a fan.

[WindyMiller]

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Good old Roddy sounding upbeat about his latest exclusive which allegedly sees Sevco5088 admitted to SPL and immediately relegated to 1st division. Don't see how that would work but he says this is the club chairmens' preferred route and "placates" fans. Once again no justice in Scottish football if this happens.

I'd assume by docking them enough points to see then dropped to bottom of the league.

The SPL seem to have the ability to come up what ever punishment they feel like, and Donkey won't have given up trying his best for the Huns.

[drumatic44]

Just noticed on the BBC. web site that the huns are rumoured to be interested in buying English League 2 club Bury to get a foothold in the English League.
What a ******' pantomime, my friends you just could NOT make this up, what's the odds on a 500 page thread !!!
Allez les Verts. !!

[ScottB]

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Good old Roddy sounding upbeat about his latest exclusive which allegedly sees Sevco5088 admitted to SPL and immediately relegated to 1st division. Don't see how that would work but he says this is the club chairmens' preferred route and "placates" fans. Once again no justice in Scottish football if this happens.

The Head of the SFL has already said there's no chance of this happening.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Just noticed on the BBC. web site that the huns are rumoured to be interested in buying English League 2 club Bury to get a foothold in the English League.
What a ******' pantomime, my friends you just could NOT make this up, what's the odds on a 500 page thread !!!
Allez les Verts. !!

"oh no it isnt!" ;)

Well I did say about a week ago all that was missing in this story was a hostile takeover bid - and hey ho here it is. As a wise man said this story just keeps on giving!

[Kojock]

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Bury - How abso******lutely appropriate.

Bury Rangers, we have been saying that for years.

[blackpoolhibs]

Surely Rangers wont leave us in the lurch and move to Bury, they have been telling us Scottish football couldn't do without them?

I'm confused?

[mim]

If the story about Green trying to buy Bury and move Rangers to the English Div 1 are true, Rangers have committed suicide as far as Scotland is concerned.

Who on earth would vote to have them in the SPL in the full knowledge that they are preparing to walk away from the Scottish game?

[IWasThere2016]

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This is a photo of Steve McKenna, one of the latest two prospective suitors

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He played well in that game.

[Off the bar]

Just watched the news with breakfast, can anyone tell me when Jimmy Carr played for rfc? Can't remember it myself but his tax arrangements sound very David Murray!

[Killiehibbie]

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If the story about Green trying to buy Bury and move Rangers to the English Div 1 are true, Rangers have committed suicide as far as Scotland is concerned.

Who on earth would vote to have them in the SPL in the full knowledge that they are preparing to walk away from the Scottish game?

Who would vote them in to the SPL knowing that for years their aim was to move to another league?

[s.a.m]

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Good old Roddy sounding upbeat about his latest exclusive which allegedly sees Sevco5088 admitted to SPL and immediately relegated to 1st division. Don't see how that would work but he says this is the club chairmens' preferred route and "placates" fans. Once again no justice in Scottish football if this happens.

I heard that. He has been consistently wrong until now, though.

The thing that annoyed me most about it was the suggestion that Sevco can't be relegated to the 3rd, because of the various infrastructural problems they would cause. They seem to miss the point that what we want to hear is that they will be treated the same way as any other club would, not as a special case. That is what would 'placate' fans.

[Bighoose]

Anyone else thinking of the film "Weekend at Bernies" when reading all this guff in the papers?

Main character is plainly dead but everyone else appears oblivious to the fact....

[BarneyK]

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Just watched the news with breakfast, can anyone tell me when Jimmy Carr played for rfc? Can't remember it myself but his tax arrangements sound very David Murray!

Aye, from listening to the Jimmy Carr news story on BBC Scotland this morning it does sound very similar, right down to the payment being a repayable loan that doesn't need to be repaid. Curiously it seems to be acknowledged as 100% legal according to that report, simply morally dubious.

[degenerated]

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Aye, from listening to the Jimmy Carr news story on BBC Scotland this morning it does sound very similar, right down to the payment being a repayable loan that doesn't need to be repaid. Curiously it seems to be acknowledged as 100% legal according to that report, simply morally dubious.

How long before jimmy Carr reveals that ken Dodd was the biggest inspiration in his career

[calum.mcd]

I'm confused, I thought Rangers died as they had no money so couldn't pay their debts. All that was in the pot from the New Club was 5.5m to cover Duff and Duffers bills, so all the creditors would get hee-haw if they knocked back the CVA. How come they've now got spare cash to buy their way into the English league by killing an English league team, which is in a better state than them. Either they've got cash or they haven't. The nonsense coming from Greyskull is astounding.

NewHun isn't really off the ground yet and I already hate them as much as I hated the old one.

[BarneyK]

Has anyone had a look on a Bury Messageboard to see how excited they are getting?

[Andy74]

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I heard that. He has been consistently wrong until now, though.

The thing that annoyed me most about it was the suggestion that Sevco can't be relegated to the 3rd, because of the various infrastructural problems they would cause. The seem to miss the point that what we want to hear is that they will be treated the same way as any other club would, not as a special case. That is what would 'placate' fans.

As has been said a million times now, they can't be relegated to the 3rd.

The SPL only has the power to transfer the share or not. If not then the SFL will have a vacancy, once the SPL invites another SFL member.

[s.a.m]

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As has been said a million times now, they can't be relegated to the 3rd.

The SPL only has the power to transfer the share or not. If not then the SFL will have a vacancy, once the SPL invites another SFL member.

Apologies - I'm aware of that. It was short-hand for: chucked out of the SPL, and then forced to apply for the vacancy thus created at the bottom end of the SFL.

[Liberal Hibby]

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As has been said a million times now, they can't be relegated to the 3rd.

The SPL only has the power to transfer the share or not. If not then the SFL will have a vacancy, once the SPL invites another SFL member.

From what the beeb is now reporting it seems like the idea is now to transfer Rangers's share to Sevco and then retrospectively dock 'Rangers' however many points needed to finish below Dunfermline in 2011/12.

That way the Pars stay up and the Huns go down.

Not sure how Dundee might react (or whether retrospective punishment of a new entity is legal).

[jgl07]

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Just watched the news with breakfast, can anyone tell me when Jimmy Carr played for rfc? Can't remember it myself but his tax arrangements sound very David Murray!

The difference appears to be that Jimmy Carr's tax dodging was legal. David Murray's tax arrangements on the other hand........

[jgl07]

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From what the beeb is now reporting it seems like the idea is now to transfer Rangers's share to Sevco and then retrospectively dock 'Rangers' however many points needed to finish below Dunfermline in 2011/12.

That way the Pars stay up and the Huns go down.

Not sure how Dundee might react (or whether retrospective punishment of a new entity is legal).

That cannot work as the points would have to have been deducted pre-split.

After the split the top six remain the top six regardless of how many point teams in the bottom six gain. Rangers could argue that they would have gained more points post-split had they been in the bottom six.

[greenginger]

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From what the beeb is now reporting it seems like the idea is now to transfer Rangers's share to Sevco and then retrospectively dock 'Rangers' however many points needed to finish below Dunfermline in 2011/12.

That way the Pars stay up and the Huns go down.

Not sure how Dundee might react (or whether retrospective punishment of a new entity is legal).

The simple way for the SPL to deal with it is for the point docking for last Season to relegate Rangers at the end of last Season in the normal way to SFL 1 and Dunfemline avoids the drop. Liquidated Rangers 1872 would have no SPL share to transfer to any new club.

The SFL can then decide if they want New Rangers to be in Div 1,2 or 3 or even at all.

[SurferRosa]

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From what the beeb is now reporting it seems like the idea is now to transfer Rangers's share to Sevco and then retrospectively dock 'Rangers' however many points needed to finish below Dunfermline in 2011/12. That way the Pars stay up and the Huns go down. Not sure how Dundee might react (or whether retrospective punishment of a new entity is legal).

This is surreal. How the **** can ye deduct points, retrospectively or otherwise, from a team that has never played a game. SevCo 5088 were never part of the SPL so dont have points to lose. We are after all, continually being told by the Cheats and their fans that they are now a new club. The depths to which the games authorities will now sink in order to try and rescue this despicable club are truly sickening.

[adhibs]

disguisting how many times their goin to bend over so the huns get away with it as lightly as possible. hopefully this new plan comes undone again, im geting sick of it tho. kill the ***** off

[Sylar]

Surely the English FA would have a right to turn around and stick two fingers up to any move by Rangers to buy a lower league English club and insert themselves into their place?

How many times do England need to say "no" before it sinks in?

[PatHead]

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That cannot work as the points would have to have been deducted pre-split.

After the split the top six remain the top six regardless of how many point teams in the bottom six gain. Rangers could argue that they would have gained more points post-split had they been in the bottom six.

I heard that all Rangers games involving dual contract players would be changed to a 3 0 defeat (for Rangers, even the SPL wouldn't fix things that obviously!) Rangers finish the season on minus 10 points and are relegated to SFL 1.

Rangers- seen to be punished severely, SPL- seen to be strong, Uefa- seen to be appeased, honour and justice- seen to be held up, club chairman- see their finances not too badly damaged, Sky- seen to not be interfering by insisting on Rangers out of SPL.

The only thing not seen is me at another Scottish Football match.

[ScottB]

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Surely the English FA would have a right to turn around and stick two fingers up to any move by Rangers to buy a lower league English club and insert themselves into their place?

How many times do England need to say "no" before it sinks in?

The FA have said before they would block any attempt at creating another MK Dons style situation, ie the renaming and moving of a club.

Added to the Football League saying they aren't welcome, and UEFA being steadfast against clubs trying to change leagues they have no chance.


Not that pesky details like that are a factor in cloud cuckoo land when Sevco live.

[bighairyfaeleith]

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I heard that all Rangers games involving dual contract players would be changed to a 3 0 defeat (for Rangers, even the SPL wouldn't fix things that obviously!) Rangers finish the season on minus 10 points and are relegated to SFL 1.

Rangers- seen to be punished severely, SPL- seen to be strong, Uefa- seen to be appeased, honour and justice- seen to be held up, club chairman- see their finances not too badly damaged, Sky- seen to not be interfering by insisting on Rangers out of SPL.

The only thing not seen is me at another Scottish Football match.

hold on though, if they have been cheating for multiple years then that means multiple relegations surely??