Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Paisley Hibby]

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D'ya think?

I suspect they would (or will) suck up to the next one or two teams down the food chain.

One has to eat, doesn't one?

That's right - the Yams will just become the Huns.

[1875godsgift]

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I am afraid that no matter what 'compromise' formula the SFA come up with, if Rangers are in the 2012-13 Scottish Premier League I am out for good. I am sure that many other supporters feel the same.

Aye I'm with you on that one.

Any other team in the same situation would have been demoted and dealt with by now.

Any other limited company who didn't pay tax or NI contributions would have their doors padlocked and the assets sold before you could say king billy.

There's something fishy about this whole situation, I think duff n duffer didn't realise how much they would be under scrutiny approaching the end-game.

[Leithenhibby]

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Aye I'm with you on that one.

Any other team in the same situation would have been demoted and dealt with by now.

Any other limited company who didn't pay tax or NI contributions would have their doors padlocked and the assets sold before you could say king billy.

There's something fishy about this whole situation, I think duff n duffer didn't realise how much they would be under scrutiny approaching the end-game.

You got to wonder if they thought we would get fed-up and just go away

It has got to be said that I'm getting a tad sick of the whole thing, but I'm in till the death on this one ..

[grunt]

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[cad]

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I am afraid that no matter what 'compromise' formula the SFA come up with, if Rangers are in the 2012-13 Scottish Premier League I am out for good. I am sure that many other supporters feel the same.

So your not taking the view of most Hibs supporters then .

[Caversham Green]

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He's got one thing wrong in that, and it's an important one. He says ST income, transfer fees and SPL money will 'be used to fund the ongoing running costs of the company as it seeks to exit administration.' It won't, the creditors are funding those costs. That income will be put into a solicitor's account for the club's use after it exits administration. And that is despite two of the three categories arising from assets that are with the company now and were indirectly funded by the default of payments to those same creditors.

That alone should kill any chance of a CVA and any money in that solicitor's account should be treated as an asset of the oldco if a newco is formed.

Edit: Actually, reading the proposal again it's only the ST money and transfer income that's going to be held back.

[proud_and_green]

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Scottish fitbaw is dying in the dirt, and this tawdry affair is burying it. Get them the hell out, re-jig the leagues to 18 top teams, get prices down, or it's over.. kids already watch Match of the Day, and avoid the Crappenfest that is Sportscene. Re-invent it FAST men in suits, or watch the Rangers turn it to dust

Agree 100%

[green glory]

https://twitter.com/bbcchrismclaug/s...22290938884096

Hopefully more bad news for the bigots.

[blackpoolhibs]

Stewart Regan says it's down to #Rangers administrators to make sure the Charles Green is fit and proper person to run club.

Aye thats a great idea?

[stokesmessiah]

#SFA recieved fax from FIFA today saying they are not breaching rules re #Rangers @BBCchrismclaug 15 minutes ago

[IWasThere2016]

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If Rangers get away with it ( And Im not buying a 10 point deduction or a fine or a slap on the wrist as justice). IF they get away with CHEATING there way for years and spending MILLIONS that wasn't there's to begin with im 100% out. No over reaction for me, Im finished with Scottish Football altogether if the Huns get away with it.

I'll attend some cup games but it is SPL no more for me.

[Gus Fring]

BBCchrismclaug #SFA recieved fax from FIFA today saying they are not breaching rules re #Rangers 06/06/2012 15:00

[Just Alf]

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Stewart Regan says it's down to #Rangers administrators to make sure the Charles Green is fit and proper person to run club.

Aye thats a great idea?

That was my thought exactly......

I then read a full quote and I guess it makes some sense...

Scottish FA chief executive, Stewart Regan, said: “It is important that club owners take more responsibility to ensure that they sell their club to an individual or individuals who act responsibly and within the rules of football.

“The Scottish FA governs the whole of football and rather than spend millions of pounds on investigations into any number of prospective purchases across the game at all levels - which would be better kept within the game - it is important that the onus is on those involved in the sale of the club.”

[Spike Mandela]

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#SFA recieved fax from FIFA today saying they are not breaching rules re #Rangers @BBCchrismclaug 15 minutes ago

What does this actually mean, who isn't breaking rules?

[blackpoolhibs]

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What does this actually mean, who isn't breaking rules?

The SFA apparently.

[Spike Mandela]

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The SFA apparently.

Who said they were or is this FIFA challenging the CoS decision. Curious.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Who said they were or is this FIFA challenging the CoS decision. Curious.

https://twitter.com/#!/BBCchrismclaug

[greenginger]

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What does this actually mean, who isn't breaking rules?

I think it means bad news. If FIFA is saying the SFA are within their rights to impose the player signing ban on Rangers the appeal panel can re-impose the ban instead of taking the correct decision and suspending the club for a season.

[Mon Dieu4]

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I think it means bad news. If FIFA is saying the SFA are within their rights to impose the player signing ban on Rangers the appeal panel can re-impose the ban instead of taking the correct decision and suspending the club for a season.

I read it as FIFA saying that SFA were in their rights to give the ban, but they will still want other action for them taking it to court imo

[Andy74]

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I think it means bad news. If FIFA is saying the SFA are within their rights to impose the player signing ban on Rangers the appeal panel can re-impose the ban instead of taking the correct decision and suspending the club for a season.

Although the SFA have already stated that they are required to operate within the laws of the land and so I think they will, as they have done, accept the judgement and come up with a new punishment that is within their power.

[Cropley10]

FIFA have taken the view previously that Associations should ignore any judgement handed out by Courts of Law.

In this case FIFA appear to be saying that it is OK for them to accept Lord Glennie's view that the matter be referred back to the Independent Appeal Tribunal.

Which in turn should mean that Rangers get a more severe punishment this time around!

[Cropley10]

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I think it means bad news. If FIFA is saying the SFA are within their rights to impose the player signing ban on Rangers the appeal panel can re-impose the ban instead of taking the correct decision and suspending the club for a season.

Bad news for who?

Surely you mean good news?

[greenginger]

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Bad news for who?

Surely you mean good news?

Not if you think a years player signing ban is insufficient punishment.

[Cropley10]

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Not if you think a years player signing ban is insufficient punishment.

Added to the 3 years they'll not be playing in Europe, plus whatever sanction they get for going to the CoS?

They're toast anyway and might as well be expelled or suspended as they'll soon be liquidated IMHO

[DH1875]

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I think it means bad news. If FIFA is saying the SFA are within their rights to impose the player signing ban on Rangers the appeal panel can re-impose the ban instead of taking the correct decision and suspending the club for a season.

I'm confused. Is it not good news .

[Matty_Jack04]

Regan just on the news saying he's spoke with FIFA and rangers won't be punished for taking them to court

[gramskiwood]

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Added to the 3 years they'll not be playing in Europe, plus whatever sanction they get for going to the CoS?

They're toast anyway and might as well be expelled or suspended as they'll soon be liquidated IMHO

Regan has said that they will not be taking action against Rangers for going to the CoS.

[Barney McGrew]

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Regan has said that they will not be taking action against Rangers for going to the Cos.

Why would they need to waste their time taking action against a team that's been expelled?

[Mon Dieu4]

Now that is a can of worms, we should take them to court for every decision we don't like

[Dalkeith]

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Regan has said that they will not be taking action against Rangers for going to the Cos.

Now free for every club in Scotland to challenge any punishment handed out to them by SFA in the courts without the fear of further actions against them for doing so