Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Seveno]

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Can we have him as Chief Exec of the SPL or, better still, as First Minister.

[PatHead]

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That man is the only good thing to come out of the whole episode.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

The Glasgow media should be bowing their heads in shame. Why does it take an outsider ie Mr Thomson to ask the questions non-Rangers fans want and need answered?

I know I'm just a keyboard nonentity, but, I'd still like to know.

[JCHibby]

What is the ******g point, all of scottish fitbae shee-hiting themselves on the thought of losing of Rangers and the TV money that brings.

Tell you what, lets get back to basics, start looking after and playing good scottish talent, every team will be closer and you will have a more competitive league, more people coming through the door wanting to watch closer and more entertaining games!

Football is about coaching talent and working with it and growing it, not spending as much money as you dont have and buying title after title...

Rod - Please stand up and be counted and tell the SFA and Rangers to do one, start in the 3rd Division I for one couldn't give a monkeys if sky leave. Trust the coaching and infrastructure of the club you support!

(just read Steven Thomsons comments hence the rant!)

[joe breezy]

I know, how unusual it is to have a serious intelligent journalist report on a Scottish football issue, just shows how it should be done and what a disgrace the Glasgow media are..

[HibbyDave]

Come on Rod... Stand up and be counted. Fans don't care about sky tv/espn or other televison "Superdeals". Once the tele companies are finished with football it will be as popular as darts and snooker on TV and just like those sports NOBODY WILL BE LEFT TO ATTEND live matches in the league.


Let's get it together and continue to Grow our own talent to compete in a FAIR LEAGUE.



If Newco Rankgers are allowed to walk back into the SPL every shred of integrity within the boards of the other SPL clubs disappears. All the posturing of your recent television appearance will be exactly that POSTURING.

I will never attend an SPL match again.

[TheEastTerrace]

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[stokesmessiah]

I think RP should walk into that meeting tomorrow, connect his laptop up to a projector and beam "Sport celebrates competition – business seeks to eliminate it" on to the wall and say "this gentlemen is why we are where we are at today, it's time we started a new era, who is ready?"

[MrSmith]

I feel sick to the stomach!

We now have a glimpse of how our club and the other nine will vote tomorrow. Rangers old/newco will remain in the SPL without formal punishment!

I feel sick in my stomach!

Whether folk see me as a doom and gloomer or a drama queen this is the end or the end is nigh dependent on your stance! Remember this sentiment:

"The clubs are mindful of a sporting integrity aspect but the commercial benefits may outweigh that." Michael Johnston Kilmarnock FC Director.

And:

"Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I am finding it very stressful, as are most of the board. "We are in a very, very difficult situation and at a crossroads for Scottish football.
"I understand how all the fans feel and I have great sympathy for them.
"But I have a legal responsibility to run Dundee United and a legal responsibility as a director of the SPL.
"We've got to think about our own clubs and about the whole of Scottish football.
"It is impossible." Stephen Thompson Dundee Utd. Director.

This disgusts me! A cloak and dagger affair of the most despicable nature is about to be unleashed upon the good people who support Scottish Football!

I echo all those who have said they will not return to Easter Road nor any other SPL match. I most definitely will not return and whether this hurts hibs or not? I'm sorry Mr Petrie, I do not recognise Hibernian FC at this point.

Mr Petrie if you do not do the right thing and vote for integrity over balancing the books, then you will have, in one foul swoop, disgraced our heritage and all the hard work in creating Hibernian FC.

[Onion]

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Utd's Stephen Thomson on Rangers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17975013

This is bull****. If he feels compromised by his position as an SPL board member, then simple - resign from the SPL Board. Then you vote along with all the others as Chair of DUFC on behalf of the club and their fans. Hiding behind some temporary SPL position is just a load of crap.

This Hun situation is going to tear Scottish Football apart.

[johnrebus]

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Perfect.


But no-one is listening.

This is bigger than football now.

If Rangers are in the SPL next season, then God help us all.


The country is morally bankrupt.

[blackpoolhibs]

If they are voted in as a newco, and start again as a SPL club, then those who voted for that will have hammered another nail, in fact maybe the last nail in Scottish footballs coffin.

How anyone can vote for this is beyond me, they are saying Rangers are more important than Scottish football? Rangers may survive and prosper, the rest of the game is ****ed and many many fans WILL walk away for ever.

Why would anyone vote in their favour knowing this?

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Perfect.


But no-one is listening.

This is bigger than football now.

If Rangers are in the SPL next season, then God help us all.


The country is morally bankrupt.

[JCHibby]

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Perfect.


But no-one is listening.

This is bigger than football now.

If Rangers are in the SPL next season, then God help us all.


The country is morally bankrupt.

If the SFA /SPL allow this what is the point in the game? Simply no point!

[green glory]

I can see the newco palaver coming to naught. Craig Whyte still has 85% of the Hun's shares and a floating charge on the assets. Until that changes Bill Miller means nothing.

[Hibrandenburg]

It's starting to look like it's up to us the fans to make sure that integrity and financial profit are one and the same.

If the dirty deed is done, then these greedy ****ers have shown that all they care about is money and the only way to get them to sit up and pay attention is to deprive them of that. Vote with your feet!

[CentreLine]

Could this really have been written June 2011?

http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/ran...eir-new-owner/

I want this man to choose my lottery numbers

[MountcastleHibs]

I haven't seen this posted anywhere.

http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...gers-1-2278177

There may be hope yet.

[CentreLine]

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I haven't seen this posted anywhere.

http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...gers-1-2278177

There may be hope yet.

Actually, Dunfermline in the SFL may just be the place to watch football next season in newco Rangers are permitted in to the SPL. Not too far to travel from Edinburgh and at least we would know the club had some integrity. Probably not but it is worth the thought

[EuanH78]

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I can see the newco palaver coming to naught. Craig Whyte still has 85% of the Hun's shares and a floating charge on the assets. Until that changes Bill Miller means nothing.

With you on this. I think it's right people are making their feelings known, be it on a messageboard or more directly (if possible). But there is a long way for this to go yet, Rangers (new or old) could be tied up in legal wranglings for years. Good to keep the pressure on though.

A bit surprised some chairmen are stating their position publicly at this point, would have thought keeping the powder dry would be advisable.

Taxman hasnt played a card yet, ticketus gone very quiet as are Uefa (i'm sure they are watching) etc.. lots still to run here. Media look like they have played their hand as has Doncaster and their bluffing, we (Ten other SPL teams -whether some actually want it or not) could end up with a very big win here. Lots of positions could become untenable if this vehicle fails... bringing in the changes.

[Hibrandenburg]

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I haven't seen this posted anywhere.

http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...gers-1-2278177

There may be hope yet.

Read this on Sky video text. Good for him and let's hope he's not quite as alone as if fears.

Of course he could also just be hoping that a demoted Rangers could save them from the drop.

[Matty_Jack04]

Do we get to know how each club has voted tomorrow or is it hidden and we're told of the winning option?

There's a damn good chance Monday evening will be my last SPL game, may 19th my last involvement in Scottish football completely. It's funny how u knew that this outcome was coming and more importantly these chairmen in particular would be the ones bleating about money in the media whilst the rest kept there lips sealed.

Sickening that not only have u watched and paid for ur team to be cheated for years but you've been cheated out of tax money also and people still expect u to roll out the red carpet whilst they get a helping hand to carry on and face no punishment for there actions

No more I'm finished with it.

[MrSmith]

John Yorkston, you are not a 'voice alone' I for one will support and add to your voice!

[scoopyboy]

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Do we get to know how each club has voted tomorrow or is it hidden and we're told of the winning option?
There's a damn good chance Monday evening will be my last SPL game, may 19th my last involvement in Scottish football completely. It's funny how u knew that this outcome was coming and more importantly these chairmen in particular would be the ones bleating about money in the media whilst the rest kept there lips sealed.

Sickening that not only have u watched and paid for ur team to be cheated for years but you've been cheated out of tax money also and people still expect u to roll out the red carpet whilst they get a helping hand to carry on and face no punishment for there actions

No more I'm finished with it.

Wouldn't surprise me if there was no vote tomorrow and it was deferred to a later date again.

[EuanH78]

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Do we get to know how each club has voted tomorrow or is it hidden and we're told of the winning option?

There's a damn good chance Monday evening will be my last SPL game, may 19th my last involvement in Scottish football completely. It's funny how u knew that this outcome was coming and more importantly these chairmen in particular would be the ones bleating about money in the media whilst the rest kept there lips sealed.

Sickening that not only have u watched and paid for ur team to be cheated for years but you've been cheated out of tax money also and people still expect u to roll out the red carpet whilst they get a helping hand to carry on and face no punishment for there actions

No more I'm finished with it.

I'm hoping the vote gets deferred again. Pressure is on Duff & Phelps/ Miller/ Rangers/ Doncaster etc.. not on the other clubs.

Keeping lips sealed at this point has got to be best course IMO.

[SRHibs]

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Do we get to know how each club has voted tomorrow or is it hidden and we're told of the winning option?

There's a damn good chance Monday evening will be my last SPL game, may 19th my last involvement in Scottish football completely. It's funny how u knew that this outcome was coming and more importantly these chairmen in particular would be the ones bleating about money in the media whilst the rest kept there lips sealed.

Sickening that not only have u watched and paid for ur team to be cheated for years but you've been cheated out of tax money also and people still expect u to roll out the red carpet whilst they get a helping hand to carry on and face no punishment for there actions

No more I'm finished with it.

If this goes through, then there'll be many of us doing the same - I'm not 100%. If Rangers are allowed back in but Hibs win the Scottish Cup on the 19th, then I'd see that as a perfect end to my interest in Hibs and Scottish football. Sad, I know. :(

[Benny Brazil]

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Wouldn't surprise me if there was no vote tomorrow and it was deferred to a later date again.

According to Beeb radio / S Thompson D Utd chairman - it is the decision of the SPL board - so the clubs may not even get / have to vote on this. That is the current rules of the SPL - there is nothing written down that the clubs get to vote on this - but as we know rules can be changed.

[Brando7]

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Is it wrong to say i love this guy Most sence spoken throughout this long drawout saga...cant wait for his next article

As someone said earlier name an SPL side gone bust after getting relegated and not getting any OF money or tv deal??????????? NONE

What's wrong with everyone sucking it up n get the youngsters playing for a few years n making the scotting game & national team a lot better in the long run.

The 3 year Europe ban be an empty threat really as if they went to Div 3 will take 3 years anyway to get back to the SPL so there no they not lost anything there unless they win the scottish cup but will 50,000 fans flock to Div 3 game i think not...that their punishment right there!!

[DH1875]

Why does everyone think that Whyte is gonna be an issue? Am I not right in thinking that the last Liverpool owners were forced by the courts to give up the club. Any chance anyone in the know could break that down for me.

[Brando7]

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Why does everyone think that Whyte is gonna be an issue? Am I not right in thinking that the last Liverpool owners were forced by the courts to give up the club. Any chance anyone in the know could break that down for me.

They way i've read it he will own 85% of a debt ridden club with no assest cause they been stripped n sold to a newco

So with all this debt getting written off by moving to a newco buisness wize..wot in anyone tom dick or harry life decides in taking out a £50,000 loan n heading down to the fort n buy a nice new porsche boxer then transferring the car in my wifes name same with the house n go bankrupt do i get to keep my house n nice new porsche cause it doesnt belong to me but have bad credit for 3 years...is this where i've been going wrong all these years