Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[greenginger]

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BBC journo says that it doesn't stop white being a shareholder, just a chairman, etc.

And any ban WILL transfer to a newco if SFA allow the license to be transferred to a newco

But it won't transfer to Cowdenbeath F C AKA New Rangers F C

[CropleyWasGod]

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They can stop him being Chairman - that's effectively what they've done - but they can't force him to sell his shares. I'm reasonably confident that I'm right on this one. We shall see soon enough!

I think I'm with Cav on this one.

CW, with his shareholding, can virtually control anything the club does. He can hire and fire, set company policy, put it into administration......even pick the team
That, to me, is participation.

[madabouthibs]

Can't help but feel that financial penalties are a complete waste of time, especially to a football club already on its knees regarding errr... finance!
Points sanctions, omission from competitions and player sanctions would be more favourable, and because of these sanctions the club would still be hit in the pocket, but other "Less corrupt" clubs would also benefit.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Can't help but feel that financial penalties are a complete waste of time, especially to a football club already on its knees regarding errr... finance!
Points sanctions, omission from competitions and player sanctions would be more favourable, and because of these sanctions the club would still be hit in the pocket, but other "Less corrupt" clubs would also benefit.

If they make it to next season, the chances are they will be docked 10 points. They have a transfer embargo, and they're banned from Europe.

So let's fine them an all....

[Bishop Hibee]

Celebrate good times, come on

Nice wee bedtime story! Well done the SFA

[seanshow]

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And still the investigation into dual contracts to be concluded by the SFA. What will the punishment be for that ?

The SPL inquiry is ongoing apparently, The punishment if they were found in breach, who knows.

Rangers Tax Case

........and I did throw out some new information about the extent of Rangers’ use of the EBT scheme- How many players in the Rangers squad (1st team and subs) that won the SPL title on the last day of the season on 22 May 2005 had an EBT? That is correct- every single one of them.

After tonights news It looks like it's all over anyway, and won't be required.

[killie-hibby]

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If liquidated, would Hibs or Dunfermline still be relegated?

Thanks to all who provided information on this post. I have sent an email to the SPL asking the same question. I will transcribe their response, if any, on this thread.

[CallumLaidlaw]

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I think I'm with Cav on this one.

CW, with his shareholding, can virtually control anything the club does. He can hire and fire, set company policy, put it into administration......even pick the team
That, to me, is participation.

From STV journo Grant Russell - Craig Whyte ban has no affect on his ability to continue to own shares in Rangers. Prohibits him being an office bearer, ie. chairman.

[CropleyWasGod]

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The SPL inquiry is ongoing apparently, The punishment if they were found in breach, who knows.

Rangers Tax Case




After tonights news It looks like it's all over anyway, and won't be required.

I have to disagree on the last point.

If there is evidence of dual-contracts, those individuals responsible must be held to account. It would be inconsistent to hammer CW for his part in the RFC story, without hammering those who made a mess of things in the first place.

[CropleyWasGod]

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From STV journo Grant Russell - Craig Whyte ban has no affect on his ability to continue to own shares in Rangers. Prohibits him being an office bearer, ie. chairman.

It's not the ownership per se that is the issue for me. It's the fact that it's an 83/85% ownership. Almost complete control.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Alex Thomson Is all over this already -
Absolutely incredible - RFC administrator seriously blaming CW for "bringing Rangers into disrepute". Thus ignoring the EBT years...

This will play seriously badly with HMRC I'm being told

[Minder]

Courtesy of Kerrydale Street - an insight to next season.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Alex Thomson Is all over this already -
Absolutely incredible - RFC administrator seriously blaming CW for "bringing Rangers into disrepute". Thus ignoring the EBT years...

This will play seriously badly with HMRC I'm being told

What will? The sanctions, the admins response, or what AT has said?

[SteveHFC]

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/inde...ntry1059974351

Oh Dear

[cabbageandribs1875]

i'm not ashamed to say,... i actually felt some involuntary movements down below whilst reading threads on that rangersmedia site



and now it's crashed like swallow swallow :( damn

[SteveHFC]

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/inde...owtopic=217769

March on Cup Final Day

[Saorsa]

[CallumLaidlaw]

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What will? The sanctions, the admins response, or what AT has said?

That bit was still part of Alex thomsons tweets. That was all he wrote

[CropleyWasGod]

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That bit was still part of Alex thomsons tweets. That was all he wrote

Ah okay.... don't understand what he means then. It's late

[Elephant Stone]

Looks like they're wanting to disrupt the final. They can't die soon enough.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Re: 25 000 rangers fans march to hamden park on the morning of the cup final

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The police already have an absolute nightmare to deal with on the Cup final day. Let's make it even worse for them. Not by causing trouble. Just our presence will be enough to make their ***** start flapping when they have hibs and hearts fans to deal with.




quick solution to that, play at murrayfield instead

[silverhibee]

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[CallumLaidlaw]

Doesn't get any better for Rangers fans. Sun splashing in morning that Kyle Lafferty suspended by club following altercation with McCoist. Lafferty reportedly suspended for 2 weeks and banned from attending games. Also allegation operations on hernia cancelled twice.

[Saorsa]

[SteveHFC]

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/inde...owtopic=217752

[CallumLaidlaw]

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Doesn't get any better for Rangers fans. Sun splashing in morning that Kyle Lafferty suspended by club following altercation with McCoist. Lafferty reportedly suspended for 2 weeks and banned from attending games. Also allegation operations on hernia cancelled twice.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...y-bust-up.html

[frazeHFC]

Regarding their planned march to Hampden......the hun love is fully intact i see:

"police wont allow it. nor should we ruin hearts day out at the final."

[jgl07]

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From STV journo Grant Russell - Craig Whyte ban has no affect on his ability to continue to own shares in Rangers. Prohibits him being an office bearer, ie. chairman.

Is he any relation to Russell Grant?

[ScottB]

Woah, who at Hampden reached down and found a pair tucked away?

So, let me get this straight, surely this 12 month transfer ban totally torpedoes any newco? As Rangers 2012 would need the current clubs license, complete with ban, but would therefore surely be unable to take on any of the current player contracts of anyone over 18, as all the contract contracts would be voided by the liquidation process?

Given this punishment, one can only wonder what would be handed down for the dual contracts scandal if proven.

It would seem their only options now are a newco starting from the bottom of the pile of buying another club. Assuming they find anyone with the cash to actually back up their claims...


Also an interesting test case for the Mad One next time he goes off on one about the SFA...

[stokesmessiah]

I think that might be the blow that will end RFC.