Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[CropleyWasGod]

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In your opinion.


Surely this bid by Murray is just pie in the sky?

***ake is it tutorial time again?

On the Murray bid, and the seriousness of it, Paul Clark did take a sideswipe at him over the weekend. He was suggesting that it was all "media talk".

Oh really??

[CropleyWasGod]

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http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...x-shambles/850

It's nice to get some exposure for the views of "other" fans.

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http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...x-shambles/850

I was just going to post this. I think it will be helpful to get London journalists involved, as I hope they will be able to see more clearly what is going on. That is certainly an interesting blog post.
He's just tweeted,

Interesting SFA have just accused me of 'lying', 'pig-headedness' and then put the phone down mid-conversation....

[green glory]

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I was just going to post this. I think it will be helpful to get London journalists involved, as I hope they will be able to see more clearly what is going on. That is certainly an interesting blog post.
He's just tweeted,

I'm 'follow following' this chap now. Asking the right questions of the right people. Don't see Jim Trayner or Tom English having the courage to tackle this. I find it strange though the SPL should wait till after the big tax case verdict before publishing it's findings.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I'm 'follow following' this chap now. Asking the right questions of the right people. Don't see Jim Trayner or Tom English having the courage to tackle this. I find it strange though the SPL should wait till after the big tax case verdict before publishing it's findings.

Keep us informed, please?

[Ozyhibby]

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I was just going to post this. I think it will be helpful to get London journalists involved, as I hope they will be able to see more clearly what is going on. That is certainly an interesting blog post.
He's just tweeted,

Be interesting to see what happens when a real journalist has a crack at the story.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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I'm 'follow following' this chap now. Asking the right questions of the right people. Don't see Jim Trayner or Tom English having the courage to tackle this. I find it strange though the SPL should wait till after the big tax case verdict before publishing it's findings.

because they are downright cowards, petrified of reprisals from personal attacks by rabid blue-nosed bigots, they will most likely browse rangers fans forums and will have noted the hatred that's typed about absolutely anyone that dares to say anything against their vile club

[CropleyWasGod]

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because they are downright cowards, petrified of reprisals from personal attacks by rabid blue-nosed bigots, they will most likely browse rangers fans forums and will have noted the hatred that's typed about absolutely anyone that dares to say anything against their vile club

To be fair, it was the Record that first broke the story about the Ticketus scam, as long ago as last summer.

[jgl07]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17310468

Just how thick are these BBC dickheads.

Analysing the events of Rangers liquidation they quote SPL reg.11 to work out what would happen to Ranger's SPL share and conclude any transfer would have to be approved by the SPL Board.

In matters of liquidation, SPL reg 14 is the relevant clause. Any transfer of share has to be approved by "the Company in General Meeting passing a Qualified Resolution".

A "Special" Qualified Resolution seems to be the appropriate type of resolution required and that must have 83% approval.

I don't know if the BBC sports dep. are being devious in trying to smooth the path for New-Co Huns or merely illiterate.

I suspect that it is lazy journalism by the BBC. They will print all the PR guff that is put out by the SPL leadership and other parties keen on keeping Rangers at all costs.

This is the same numpties that throughout last year were assuring everyone that the agreement to reduce the SPL to 10 teams was on the verge of being approved. It has not been approved and is highly unlikely to be approved.

The BBC article also stated that in the event of Rangers going 'pop' it would not save the bottom club from relegation and hinting that it would mean an extra club being promoted. This is not what happened when Falkirk failed the ground criteria and Motherwell survived relegation in 2002-3.

These is an agenda here as it is signifying that there is no point in Dunfermline or Hibs opposing the reinstatement of Rangers as a means of avoiding the drop themselves.

All very insidious and somewhat insulting to the intelligence to be told barefaced lies.

[PatHead]

Rangers bidder Paul Murray may fail Scottish FA 'fitness test'

Paul Murray has made public some of the details of his consortium's proposed takeover of Rangers, but he may be unable to join the club's new board.
Businessman Douglas Park and London-based pair Scott Murdoch, a property expert, and fund manager John Bennett are some of Murray's Blue Knights.
But Murray's former directorship at Ibrox prior to administration may fall foul of "fit and proper person" rules.
The Scottish Football Association board could block the Scot's involvement.
Although Murray was ousted from the board by Craig Whyte shortly after he bought the club from Sir David Murray, the club's insolvency nine months later raises doubts over him playing an official role in any Scottish club.
The SFA's rule 10.2(j) in their Articles of Association appear to exclude anyone who has been a "director of a club in membership of any national association within the five-year period preceding such club having undergone an insolvency event".
However, it is understood the SFA's legal team are unsure whether the specific rule would be enforceable given Murray had already left. Any individual also has the right of appeal...................

From BBC today.

I have said umpteen times he shouldn't be allowed near a football club.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Rangers bidder Paul Murray may fail Scottish FA 'fitness test'

Paul Murray has made public some of the details of his consortium's proposed takeover of Rangers, but he may be unable to join the club's new board.
Businessman Douglas Park and London-based pair Scott Murdoch, a property expert, and fund manager John Bennett are some of Murray's Blue Knights.
But Murray's former directorship at Ibrox prior to administration may fall foul of "fit and proper person" rules.
The Scottish Football Association board could block the Scot's involvement.
Although Murray was ousted from the board by Craig Whyte shortly after he bought the club from Sir David Murray, the club's insolvency nine months later raises doubts over him playing an official role in any Scottish club.
The SFA's rule 10.2(j) in their Articles of Association appear to exclude anyone who has been a "director of a club in membership of any national association within the five-year period preceding such club having undergone an insolvency event".
However, it is understood the SFA's legal team are unsure whether the specific rule would be enforceable given Murray had already left. Any individual also has the right of appeal...................

From BBC today.

I have said umpteen times he shouldn't be allowed near a football club.

Apart from him (a) being a Hun and (b) being an accountant..... why? (I'm not disagreeing, just interested)

[cabbageandribs1875]

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To be fair, it was the Record that first broke the story about the Ticketus scam, as long ago as last summer.

and probably after a tip-off from his old friend SDM, to throw anyone of the scent of any wrongdoings in the murray regime, if they want to finally start doing some serious investigative journalism they could maybe start of with a guy that appears to be immune from any searching questions/criticism, a man who presided not just at one club...but TWO clubs... campbell ogilvie, Mr teflon himself

[Hibs Class]

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For once the Scotsman have at least asked someone with a bit knowledge on financial matters; http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman...pert-1-2168928

I've a feeling that Neil Patey may be the EY bloke that has been interviewed on Reporting Scotland about this a few times.

[green glory]

https://twitter.com/alextomo/status/179522022240550912

Would this be the response of people with nothing to hide. Hopefully a full on C4 investigation on the way.

I've asked who he spoke to, hopefully I'll get a reply.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I've a feeling that Neil Patey may be the EY bloke that has been interviewed on Reporting Scotland about this a few times.

Steve Morrow has been all over the BBC about this too. Is that who you're thinking of?

[CropleyWasGod]

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https://twitter.com/alextomo/status/179522022240550912

Would this be the response of people with nothing to hide. Hopefully a full on C4 investigation on the way.

I've asked who he spoke to, hopefully I'll get a reply.

YOU'RE STEWART REGAN!!!!

[PatHead]

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Apart from him (a) being a Hun and (b) being an accountant..... why? (I'm not disagreeing, just interested)

Has been a director of Rangers at the time they were making these alleged payments and director of a club that was in the mess it was prior to Murray selling it. His track record speaks for itself.

[TheEastTerrace]

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I'm 'follow following' this chap now. Asking the right questions of the right people. Don't see Jim Trayner or Tom English having the courage to tackle this. I find it strange though the SPL should wait till after the big tax case verdict before publishing it's findings.

This is the beginning of the storm for the SFA and SPL - Campbell Ogilvie will have some serious questions to answer very soon, as well as former SFA employees.

Hearts may also want to look at Mr Ogivie's time at the club

[CropleyWasGod]

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Has been a director of Rangers at the time they were making these alleged payments and director of a club that was in the mess it was prior to Murray selling it. His track record speaks for itself.

The first point is, as you say, "alleged". If it is proven, then I would agree, everyone involved during that period should have a life-ban from involvement in football.

The second I'm not so sure about. He has a decent pedigree outside football, I understand.

But, hey, if someone wants to sell the club to a character with a mixed history, and he has the money... who am I to stop him? Ain't that right, Sir David?

[Hibs Class]

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Steve Morrow has been all over the BBC about this too. Is that who you're thinking of?

Checked the photo of Neil on LinkedIn - pretty sure it is him. (Although, TBH I only really tune in for Cat Cubie so don't pay too much attention during the hun news features)

[CropleyWasGod]

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Checked the photo of Neil on LinkedIn - pretty sure it is him. (Although, TBH I only really tune in for Cat Cubie so don't pay too much attention during the hun news features)

Ah okay.....

And we're back on the totty. It's a slow day Huns-wise.

[PatHead]

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The first point is, as you say, "alleged". If it is proven, then I would agree, everyone involved during that period should have a life-ban from involvement in football.

The second I'm not so sure about. He has a decent pedigree outside football, I understand.

But, hey, if someone wants to sell the club to a character with a mixed history, and he has the money... who am I to stop him? Ain't that right, Sir David?

So did Whyte, made lots of money from various businesses and became a billionaire according to a paper I read

[ancienthibby]

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Checked the photo of Neil on LinkedIn - pretty sure it is him. (Although, TBH I only really tune in for Cat Cubie so don't pay too much attention during the hun news features)

Should not be any confusion about the two.

Neil Patey from Ernst & Young tends to be used by the Beeb on Reporting Scotland.

Stephen Morrow is from Stirling University, appears a lot on Newsnicht Scotland and, IMHO, is too often found wanting when being questioned.

Patey, I feel, is good value.

[Benny Brazil]

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Should not be any confusion about the two.

Neil Patey from Ernst & Young tends to be used by the Beeb on Reporting Scotland.

Stephen Morrow is from Stirling University, appears a lot on Newsnicht Scotland and, IMHO, is too often found wanting when being questioned.

Patey, I feel, is good value.

Was he not also the guy who was on the Beebs Scottish football debate last week?

[WindyMiller]

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I've a feeling that Neil Patey may be the EY bloke that has been interviewed on Reporting Scotland about this a few times.

The Scotsman may actually be quoting him from these interviews, and there's me giving them credit for a piece of investigative journalism.

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http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...x-shambles/850

Sorry if already posted, but part 2 coming very shortly. Will post as soon as I see it.

[Liberal Hibby]

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Keep us informed, please?

Were you not (several dozen pages ago) looking for a journo to ask various questions you had devised based on your understanding of the case so far?

[IWasThere2016]

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Has been a director of Rangers at the time they were making these alleged payments and director of a club that was in the mess it was prior to Murray selling it. His track record speaks for itself.

And accountants shouldn't run businesses.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Were you not (several dozen pages ago) looking for a journo to ask various questions you had devised based on your understanding of the case so far?

Oh bloody hell... maybe

I might trawl through it later...but, if you have the time and inclination

[CropleyWasGod]

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And accountants shouldn't run businesses.

Koff... ballshecht... koff