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[DH1875]

Don't say I'm not good to you guy's .

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...ith-Gronkowski

[Haymaker]

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Don't say I'm not good to you guy's .

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...ith-Gronkowski

Kid looked good last year, lets hope it continues next season!

[DH1875]

Enough said,

http://www.nfluk.com/video/link/rand...ets-13411.html

[Haymaker]

Was the best WR in the league a few years back but it seems like his best days are well and truely behind him now.

[Sylar]

I dunno - put him in the right offense and he could well and truly rip a defense to pieces.

Sanchez doesn't utilise big passes or quick sharp passes in the same way Moss was used to with Brady - it might sound a little arrogant, but I reckon Brady him the player he was.

There have been a few rumours linking us with Chad Ochcocinco and I hope they're nothing more than pie in the sky, journalists attempting to create news whilst the lockout still looms, nonsense.

[Haymaker]

I thought Chad was off to play association football?

[Sylar]

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I thought Chad was off to play association football?

It was a while ago I heard the rumour, so that might well be the case!

[Haymaker]

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It was a while ago I heard the rumour, so that might well be the case!

He is playing for the reserve side at Sporting Kanas City at the moment. Not got a contract yet.

Apparently the MLS teams are "rebranding" to sound more like European club teams? Interesting.

[DH1875]

Been confirmed that if the season goes ahead the Wembley game will be ...............
the Buccaneers vs the Bears with the Buccs being the home team. Find it a strange one with the Buccs being here before but hey ho .

[Gatecrasher]

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Been confirmed that if the season goes ahead the Wembley game will be ...............
the Buccaneers vs the Bears with the Buccs being the home team. Find it a strange one with the Buccs being here before but hey ho .

i wonder if jay cutler will still be QB by then

A side note i watched The Blind Side film about Michael Oher and thought it was brilliant, its on sky movies this week

[HibsMax]

Randy Moss has had all the chances I think he deserves. I have no doubt in my mind that when he puts his mind to it, he's one of the best out there. The way he can pull a ball down with one hand while soaring a few feet off the ground......and then retain possession is amazing. I loved the guy when he played for the Pats. I secretly hoped that after "that" news conference that he would maybe come back to the Pats but it never happened. Wish things could have been different but alas.

We might have broken records with him in the team but we didn't win any rings.

[James.]

[DH1875]

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It will be intresting to see what they do with it if the season doesn't go ahead (the game that is not the cover).
Have any of you been taking part in the vote for the new cover? It's been quite intresting to see which player each team put forward and whos been picking up the votes. They've got it down from 32 to 4. The 4 being;
Aaron Rodgers
Michael Vick
Peyton Hillis
Adrian Peterson.

It's always going to be Rodgers bit would be intresting to see what they'd do if Vick wins.

[Sylar]

The schedule for the 2011 has been released today - whether they go ahead or not is a different question

NFL 2011 Schedule

NY Jets will have a very poignant opening day, hosting Dallas on the 10th anniversary of the September 11th attacks in New York. We have a tricky opening tie away to the Dolphins. The Packers open up against the Saints in Green Bay.

First meeting between us is on Sunday 9th October, in Foxborough.

Patriots

@Miami - Monday 12th September
vs San Diego (H) - Sunday 18th September
@Buffalo - Sunday 25th September
@Oakland - Sunday 2nd October
vs NY Jets - Sunday 9th October
vs Dallas - Sunday 16th October
BYE - Sunday 23rd October
@Pittsburgh - Sunday 30th October
vs NY Giants - Sunday 6th November
@NY Jets - Sunday 13th November
vs Kansas City - Monday 21st November
@Philadelphia - Sunday 27th November
vs Indianapolis - Sunday 4th December
@ Washington - Sunday 11th December
@ Denver - Sunday 18th December
vs Miami - Saturday 24th December
vs Buffalo - Sunday 1st January

Jets

vs Dallas - Sunday 11th September
vs Jacksonville - Sunday 18th September
@Oakland - Sunday 25th September
@Baltimore - Sunday 2nd October
@New England - Sunday 9th October
vs Miami - Sunday 16th October
vs San Diego - Sunday 23rd October
BYE - Sunday 30th October
@Buffalo - Sunday 6th November
vs New England - Sunday 13th November
@Denver - Thursday 17th November
vs Buffalo - Sunday 27th November
@Washington - Sunday 4th December
vs Kansas City - Sunday 11th December
@Philadelphia - Sunday 18th December
vs New York Giants - Saturday 24th December
@Miami - Sunday 1st January

Packers

vs New Orleans - Thursday 8th September
@Carolina - Sunday 18th September
@Chicago - Sunday 25th September
vs Denver - Sunday 2nd October
@Atlanta - Sunday 9th October
vs St Louis - Sunday 16th October
@Minnesota - Sunday 23rd October
BYE - Sunday 30th October
@San Diego - Sunday 6th November
vs Minnesota - Monday 14th November
vs Tampa Bay - Sunday 20th November
@Detroit - Thursday 24th November (Thanksgiving Day)
@NY Giants - Sunday 4th December
vs Oakland - Sunday 11th December
@Kansas City - Sunday 18th December
vs Chicago - Sunday 25th December (Christmas Day)
vs Detroit - Sunday 1st January

I feel a bit for the Packers players, as they won't see their families on ANY of the major holidays this year!

[Gatecrasher]

I'm quite happy schedule tbh it could have been a lot worse.
Patriots look to have a more difficult one than the packers

[Haymaker]

I will hopefully be at Foxboro for the first game there!

Tough schedule but I am happy the bye week isnt too early and isnt too late either... finishing with two home games is also good for us! I cant wait for the season... need to make sure it happens now!

Bears @ Bucs at wembley too... hopefully be a cracker

[Sylar]

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I will hopefully be at Foxboro for the first game there!

Tough schedule but I am happy the bye week isnt too early and isnt too late either... finishing with two home games is also good for us! I cant wait for the season... need to make sure it happens now!

Bears @ Bucs at wembley too... hopefully be a cracker

I fly into Orlando on the 10th of September, so I'm toying with the notion of making it down to Miami for the opener.

If not, I'll just need to settle for a trip to Gainesville the following Saturday, to watch Florida take on Tennessee

[DH1875]

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The schedule for the 2011 has been released today - whether they go ahead or not is a different question

NFL 2011 Schedule

NY Jets will have a very poignant opening day, hosting Dallas on the 10th anniversary of the September 11th attacks in New York. We have a tricky opening tie away to the Dolphins. The Packers open up against the Saints in Green Bay.

First meeting between us is on Sunday 9th October, in Foxborough.

Jets

vs Dallas - Sunday 11th September
vs Jacksonville - Sunday 18th September
@Oakland - Sunday 25th September
@Baltimore - Sunday 2nd October
@New England - Sunday 9th October
vs Miami - Sunday 16th October
vs San Diego - Sunday 23rd October
BYE - Sunday 30th October
@Buffalo - Sunday 6th November
vs New England - Sunday 13th November
@Denver - Thursday 17th November
vs Buffalo - Sunday 27th November
@Washington - Sunday 4th December
vs Kansas City - Sunday 11th December
@Philadelphia - Sunday 18th December
vs New York Giants - Saturday 24th December
@Miami - Sunday 1st January

Miami's on the Monday night . We've got 5 games on the TV already and if Sky pick up a few others it will be cracking.
Got to be honest and say I'm NO liking that schedule. Looks like it could be a killer and I've serious doubts about us making the play-offs. Having to play the Ravens and Pats away one after another is not good especially when you factor in we've got to make the trip west to Oakland the week before. Who ever came up with that has done us no favours. Them last 3 games are a bit of a nightmare as well. Wouldn't like to see any of them as must win games.

[James.]

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Miami's on the Monday night . We've got 5 games on the TV already and if Sky pick up a few others it will be cracking.
Got to be honest and say I'm NO liking that schedule. Looks like it could be a killer and I've serious doubts about us making the play-offs. Having to play the Ravens and Pats away one after another is not good especially when you factor in we've got to make the trip west to Oakland the week before. Who ever came up with that has done us no favours. Them last 3 games are a bit of a nightmare as well. Wouldn't like to see any of them as must win games.

Got to agree with you, tough run of games especially the 3 away in a row (notice the Bills have also been subjected to this but the Dolphins and the Brady Bunch haven't) Also surely we should of been playing the Giants on Sept 11th.

[Ryan91]

This season looks like it will be a cracker for all involved, really interested in the upcoming draft to see what the Patriots do with all the picks they have (6 from the first 90, that's 2 each in the first 3 rounds) with 17th and 33rd overall picks looking like good ones.

As for Moss going to the Jets, Moss did so well at New England as he was working with arguably one of the best Quarterbacks in the NFL and their style of play suited him, don't think the way the Jets work is what would fit Moss best. Moss has said that he'd love to work with Belichick and Brady again, as for whether the Patriots would take him back given the season they had last year without him, I'm not so sure, the New England offence was one of the best last year, and statistically their defence was one of the worst, which was off-set by the offence doing so well.

[Sylar]

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Got to agree with you, tough run of games especially the 3 away in a row (notice the Bills have also been subjected to this but the Dolphins and the Brady Bunch haven't) Also surely we should of been playing the Giants on Sept 11th.

Aye, it's a conspiracy right enough

You sure you're not a Celtc fan?

[James.]

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Aye, it's a conspiracy right enough

You sure you're not a Celtc fan?

Haha, was just making an observation - not paranoid in the slightest

"If you have five prime-time games, people want to watch you, and people anticipate us having an outstanding season. ... This is to be expected, but it’s still exciting also.”

Amen Rex

[Haymaker]

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Moss did so well at New England as he was working with the best Quarterback in the NFL

Fixed that for you.

[Haymaker]

Apparently the NFL has been ordered by a court to happen next season?

[James.]

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Apparently the NFL has been ordered by a court to happen next season?

The NFL are saying that you can't put an injunction on a labour dispute - not too clued up on US law but seems they have a pretty solid basis to appeal this injunction. Besides how can the NFL operate if there is still no CBA? Agents are telling their players to report tomorrow in order to start picking up workout bonuses. Very interested to see how this plays out if the injunction is upheld.

[Part/Time Supporter]

Article by the NFL commissioner in the Wall Street Journal.

If he's being remotely fair in his analysis, it sounds like the NFL will become a lot more like European football - a complete free for all. No draft, no restrictions on free agency, no collective agreements at all. The obvious consequence of that is a system more like English football, where about 4 or 5 teams have a realistic chance of winning each year and everyone else is fighting over the scraps and/or developing players for those richer teams.

I don't think many Americans will have much sympathy for the already very well-paid players like Brady or Peyton Manning trying to squeeze a few more million bucks out of them at the expense of their fellow players. At present the NFL is very fair towards marginal and/or injured players in terms of minimum salary and protective benefits. Without a CBA those guys would obviously get squeezed, because the small market teams could just take other players from college, Arena football or Canada.

[Haymaker]

Alot of the arguement comes down to the fact that the owners want a longer regular season for which the players want more money for... The majority of players get so smashed to **** that they want either bigger rosters (and therefore more money to pay for the extra needed players) or keeping the same rosters (and therefore more money to pay for the bigger risks they will have to take). At the end of the day American Football is not like Association Football - these players run the risk of serious, life threatening injuries whenever they enter the arena. Association football is, in theory, non contact and while serious injuries occur in it NFL players run the risk of disablities, brain damage and even death when they head for a tackle... Just look at the Ellis Hobbs injury this season where everyone was on the pitch and the fear of the worst was evident in the eyes...

The biggest players earn huge bucks, sure, but then alot of players who arent "top" players yet are instrumental in the team earn little... and some of their time as pros is very limited.

The big players also earn the big money because they are the best at what they do, they sell the team the biggest number of shirts, bring the best money from deals...

The players hold all the chips here and I would imagine the public will be with them

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Alot of the arguement comes down to the fact that the owners want a longer regular season for which the players want more money for... The majority of players get so smashed to **** that they want either bigger rosters (and therefore more money to pay for the extra needed players) or keeping the same rosters (and therefore more money to pay for the bigger risks they will have to take). At the end of the day American Football is not like Association Football - these players run the risk of serious, life threatening injuries whenever they enter the arena. Association football is, in theory, non contact and while serious injuries occur in it NFL players run the risk of disablities, brain damage and even death when they head for a tackle... Just look at the Ellis Hobbs injury this season where everyone was on the pitch and the fear of the worst was evident in the eyes...

The biggest players earn huge bucks, sure, but then alot of players who arent "top" players yet are instrumental in the team earn little... and some of their time as pros is very limited.

The big players also earn the big money because they are the best at what they do, they sell the team the biggest number of shirts, bring the best money from deals...

The players hold all the chips here and I would imagine the public will be with them

That's not what previous strikes / lockouts in pro sports would suggest.

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That's not what previous strikes / lockouts in pro sports would suggest.

Maybe they have learnt from those occasions and will have a better way of communicating with the fans/public?

I went on a bit of a rant last night... bloody hell!

[Part/Time Supporter]

Rebuttal of Goodell's article in The Atlantic