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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    He might not have liked JC but could you really say he's gone from strength to strength since leaving hibs? He's shown the odd glimpse of what he's capable of but never consistantly
    This is going off on a tangent.

    I think employers, including football managers, have a duty of care for their employees and offer them advice and support in areas of their private life, if it's requested.

    WE often hear about clubs "standing by" a player who has got himself into trouble.

    Presumably, JC would have said it's nothing to do with Hibernian Football Club.

    Anyway, water under a bridge now.
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    Discrete was possibly the wrong word.

    I meant without making a vulgar song and dance about it by advertising in the national press really.

    Tastefully.

    Someone will be along to offer a more appropriate adjective.
    yeah im sure every media outlet across the entire UK didnt have Yogis sacking as some sort of headline somewhere and therefor no one would guess we needed a new manager and would be open to applications and approaches

    Maybe Petrie should have just put it in the classifieds

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    I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I think most clubs take their time.

    Because, as Hibs fans, we're not waiting for an announcement with baited breath when say, Lincoln become managerless, we don't appreciate the timescale involved.

    Some clubs rush to appoint an interim manager, but that's not what we're doing. For example, Killie brought in Calderwood and Motherwell brought in Brown. I guess we could have done the same, but we want something different.

    Some, high profile clubs will go behind the incumbent's back and secretly tap up a manager in advance but we haven't been as duplicitous.

    Also, there is huge interest in the Hibs job so we should consider all the applicants properly. Many of the names will be unknown to the board, so an amount of research will be necessary.

    I remember the clamour for Jim Gannon to be appointed last time on the back of one poster's fanciful and glowing posts. We all seem to be desperate for Steve Clarke this time, when none of us know if he has the right attributes - or if there is a better candidate out there.

    Unlike us, the board are duty bound to find out.

    There is no need for an unseemly rush. We have a 2 week break which allows us even more scope to take our time.

    If Garteth Evans is in charge against Killie, so be it. We might win. He might be the man for the job.
    We HAD a 2 week break. We now have 3 days before Killie. I think the break may have been a bad thing for us. If what we were hearing about the players not wanting to work hard at training etc then it will have been 2 weeks where the players may not have trained properly. IMO the board would have been looking for a while at possible replacement, not contacting them, but certainly looking.

    I think the best scenario for hibs will be for them to appoint a manager before the Killie game but still let Evans be in charge. That way the new manager can sit in the stand and watc the players perform, which he should see 11 players on the pitch busting a gut.

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    It's a bit ironic then that the players that reacted best to JC's methods were the young guys, Hogg, Mccann, Benji, Brown and Stevenson all improved under him and have gone backwards since he left, although to be fair Mccann has hardly played.

    Absolutely no inside knowledge but i've got trouble believing all these stories about his poor man management, imo too many players improved under him for that to be the case

    Sadly , as I am great fan of JC the player, the "stories" re his management skills are almost all correct .
    This from players/staff at EM .
    Remember regardless what job you are in you will always find that diffferent "workers" react differently to management styles.
    Some will just get on with it , some will object , some even move on and footballers are no different.!

    That's how life is

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdships View Post
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    Sadly , as I am great fan of JC the player, the "stories" re his management skills are almost all correct .
    This from players/staff at EM .
    Remember regardless what job you are in you will always find that diffferent "workers" react differently to management styles.
    Some will just get on with it , some will object , some even move on and footballers are no different.!

    That's how life is
    But EM wasn't around when JC was in charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I think most clubs take their time.

    Because, as Hibs fans, we're not waiting for an announcement with baited breath when say, Lincoln become managerless, we don't appreciate the timescale involved.

    Some clubs rush to appoint an interim manager, but that's not what we're doing. For example, Killie brought in Calderwood and Motherwell brought in Brown. I guess we could have done the same, but we want something different.

    Some, high profile clubs will go behind the incumbent's back and secretly tap up a manager in advance but we haven't been as duplicitous.

    Also, there is huge interest in the Hibs job so we should consider all the applicants properly. Many of the names will be unknown to the board, so an amount of research will be necessary.

    I remember the clamour for Jim Gannon to be appointed last time on the back of one poster's fanciful and glowing posts. We all seem to be desperate for Steve Clarke this time, when none of us know if he has the right attributes - or if there is a better candidate out there.

    Unlike us, the board are duty bound to find out.

    There is no need for an unseemly rush. We have a 2 week break which allows us even more scope to take our time.

    If Garteth Evans is in charge against Killie, so be it. We might win. He might be the man for the job.
    I thought that clubs sacked a manager at international break to ensure they had time to get someone in before the break ended. I also thought noone would sack a manager without having looked into replacements.

    To go into the Killie game with no manager would be ridiculous IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac View Post
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    yeah im sure every media outlet across the entire UK didnt have Yogis sacking as some sort of headline somewhere and therefor no one would guess we needed a new manager and would be open to applications and approaches

    Maybe Petrie should have just put it in the classifieds
    I wonder how Baltimore Brito or Nevio Scala found out about the vacancy.

    Or any other European coaches who may be interested in the job.

    I would think it extremely foolhardy, not to mention arrogant, if Hibs decided they didn't need to alert folk to the vacancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs View Post
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    I thought that clubs sacked a manager at international break to ensure they had time to get someone in before the break ended. I also thought noone would sack a manager without having looked into replacements.

    To go into the Killie game with no manager would be ridiculous IMO.
    I'm going by what was publicly stated at the AGM.

    "We have the best part of two clear weeks over the international break to try and make progress. We do not see it as imperative to have a new management team in place for the Kilmarnock game - we want to take the time to make the right next appointment.

    "Football being football, the telephones, emails and text messages have been red hot. There will be a lot of interest in one of the leading jobs in football management in Scotland."

    Also, if Hibs had beaten St Johnstone, Yogi would still be in charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibs13681 View Post
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    We HAD a 2 week break. We now have 3 days before Killie. I think the break may have been a bad thing for us. If what we were hearing about the players not wanting to work hard at training etc then it will have been 2 weeks where the players may not have trained properly. IMO the board would have been looking for a while at possible replacement, not contacting them, but certainly looking.

    I think the best scenario for hibs will be for them to appoint a manager before the Killie game but still let Evans be in charge. That way the new manager can sit in the stand and watc the players perform, which he should see 11 players on the pitch busting a gut.
    The Killie game is pretty insignificant when looking at possiblythe next 3 to 5 years. We need to get the right person in and therefore the best scenario for Hibs is to appoint the best man for the job even if that takes a bit of time.

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    We have only been without a manager for eight days, so I am not expecting an appointment before the match with Killie. It's far better the board take their time and hopefully get the best person for the job.

    On the other hand, Steve Clarke is who I am hoping gets it and I also have a bet at 11/1 on him too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibs13681 View Post
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    We HAD a 2 week break. We now have 3 days before Killie. I think the break may have been a bad thing for us. If what we were hearing about the players not wanting to work hard at training etc then it will have been 2 weeks where the players may not have trained properly. IMO the board would have been looking for a while at possible replacement, not contacting them, but certainly looking.

    I think the best scenario for hibs will be for them to appoint a manager before the Killie game but still let Evans be in charge. That way the new manager can sit in the stand and watc the players perform, which he should see 11 players on the pitch busting a gut.
    That's what I think will happen although the announcement will come after the Killie game.

    It's all just speculation. It could be this afternoon.

    It could be Csaba Laszlo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    The Killie game is pretty insignificant when looking at possiblythe next 3 to 5 years. We need to get the right person in and therefore the best scenario for Hibs is to appoint the best man for the job even if that takes a bit of time.
    Dont know why people keep talking about 3 to 5 years. Hibs need instance success as they cant afford slumps. Hibs will have quickly gotten a list together of potential targets and already contacted any that they find may fit their bill. From there they would have shortened the list even further by looking at wage demands and possible budget demands.

    The Killie game is significant IMO as any potential candidates will be watching that match. They will also know that 18 player are out of contract at the end of the season. if any potential candidate watches the Killie game and thinks that pretty much all of the 18 are not worth keeping they will then know they have to replace them all with very little budget.

    With hibs performances at the moment, every game is important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    That's what I think will happen although the announcement will come after the Killie game.

    It's all just speculation. It could be this afternoon.

    It could be Csaba Laszlo.
    Dont even joke about that! I dont think I could cope with the interviews!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Also, if Hibs had beaten St Johnstone, Yogi would still be in charge.
    He probably would've been but they'd have still been thinking about sacking him. They didn't wake up on the Sunday after the St Johnstone game and realise that we'd been on a poor run, it must've been on their minds for a while. Facing an angry mob at the AGM might've made them act quicker though.

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    The Killie game is pretty insignificant when looking at possiblythe next 3 to 5 years. We need to get the right person in and therefore the best scenario for Hibs is to appoint the best man for the job even if that takes a bit of time.
    If the next manager does well we'll be back having this discussion again around next January/February. There's no 3-5 year plan! Unless they do some kind of succession planning this time?

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    Dont even joke about that! I dont think I could cope with the interviews!
    Could be a reason for the process drawing out to a week and a half though. He's still answering the "why did you apply for the job?" question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs View Post
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    Could be a reason for the process drawing out to a week and a half though. He's still answering the "why did you apply for the job?" question.
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    Looks like there won't be a new manager, at least not taking charge, by Saturday:

    http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20...262950_2182012

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    Just been told by a reliable source to lump on Steve Clark.....unfortunately he is now long odds on at 1/3

    Blast.

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    You must be that the last hibbie to get this info. Most got at least evens

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    You must be that the last hibbie to get this info. Most got at least evens
    I know - just been a bit busy of late and out of the loop

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    I got cheeky fiver at 12-1 last week on steve clarke, hopefully it will come off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxhibs View Post
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    I got cheeky fiver at 12-1 last week on steve clarke, hopefully it will come off

    Thanks to me

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    Thanks to me
    In fairness it was me who mentioned clarke to you as a very good option first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxhibs View Post
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    In fairness it was me who mentioned clarke to you as a very good option first.
    And me who said to place a bet on him

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    I wonder how Baltimore Brito or Nevio Scala found out about the vacancy.

    Or any other European coaches who may be interested in the job.

    I would think it extremely foolhardy, not to mention arrogant, if Hibs decided they didn't need to alert folk to the vacancy.
    from reading a few of your posts it is clear you have not the first iota how the whole thing works and how quickly a manager can be appointed or the millions of agents who are agents who are agents for people all over the world, you see peope will instantly put their clients, clients name in the hat without their knowledge, the reason, to let everyone know they are looking for work!!! not arrogant in the slightest, Hibs dont need to do a think apart from sift through the people they are intersted in or proactively approach someone should they have someone in mind!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by purehibee1875 View Post
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    And me who said to place a bet on him
    Thats by the by. GGTTH

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    But EM wasn't around when JC was in charge.

    As they say
    "Not often you are right but this time you are definately wrong"

    From "Scotsman"
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    THE day generations of Hibs stars dreamed of finally arrived today as the Easter Road club officially opened its £4.2million state-of-the-art training centre.
    And immediately boss John Collins claimed there wasn't a football manager in the world who wouldn't be proud to have the East Mains Training Centre, built on more than 50 acres of land near Ormiston, at their disposal.

    As often seems to happen with your goodself you need to do a bit more research before commiting to print !!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdships View Post
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    As they say
    "Not often you are right but this time you are definately wrong"

    From "Scotsman"
    19 December 2007
    By DAVID HARDIE
    THE day generations of Hibs stars dreamed of finally arrived today as the Easter Road club officially opened its £4.2million state-of-the-art training centre.
    And immediately boss John Collins claimed there wasn't a football manager in the world who wouldn't be proud to have the East Mains Training Centre, built on more than 50 acres of land near Ormiston, at their disposal.

    As often seems to happen with your goodself you need to do a bit more research before commiting to print !!



    Pretty sure Collins departed the very next day after EM was opened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac View Post
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    from reading a few of your posts it is clear you have not the first iota how the whole thing works and how quickly a manager can be appointed or the millions of agents who are agents who are agents for people all over the world, you see peope will instantly put their clients, clients name in the hat without their knowledge, the reason, to let everyone know they are looking for work!!! not arrogant in the slightest, Hibs dont need to do a think apart from sift through the people they are intersted in or proactively approach someone should they have someone in mind!!!!
    Right.

    In that case, we should have heard by now.

    I wonder what the hold up is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdships View Post
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    As they say
    "Not often you are right but this time you are definately wrong"

    From "Scotsman"
    19 December 2007
    By DAVID HARDIE
    THE day generations of Hibs stars dreamed of finally arrived today as the Easter Road club officially opened its £4.2million state-of-the-art training centre.
    And immediately boss John Collins claimed there wasn't a football manager in the world who wouldn't be proud to have the East Mains Training Centre, built on more than 50 acres of land near Ormiston, at their disposal.

    As often seems to happen with your goodself you need to do a bit more research before commiting to print !!

    Collins definitely quit a day or so after EM's was opened.
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