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    You've answered your own question again. Its called leverage.
    Yes, but it will be more damaging to the company as a whole in the long run and ultimately them, IMO.

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    Yes, but it will be more damaging to the company as a whole in the long run and ultimately them, IMO.
    But only if the strikes go ahead, wouldn't you agree?

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    And after all that, guess who I flew home with last night Wasn't too bad. I must admit I was tempted to ask about the strike but kept my mouth shut. By the way, maybe change to BA all the time. You get bacon rolls in their business lounge, much better than the rubbish in KLM and AFs!!!!!

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    And after all that, guess who I flew home with last night Wasn't too bad. I must admit I was tempted to ask about the strike but kept my mouth shut. By the way, maybe change to BA all the time. You get bacon rolls in their business lounge, much better than the rubbish in KLM and AFs!!!!!
    BA lounges are the best by far, IMHO. The spread and drinks are good, plenty of mags and newspapers, big comfy armchairs and plenty of room so that some tit isn't sitting on your lap shouting into his Blackberry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArabHibee View Post
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    But only if the strikes go ahead, wouldn't you agree?
    It depends how long it drags on for I suppose, if it gets put back again then loyal customers may be taken away. If it goes ahead as a one off then the damage may not be too bad.

    If they have a series of shorter strikes it will be quite damaging. The longer loyal customers stay away they more unlikely they are to go back.

    Am I correct in saying that BA depend a lot on business customers? I wouldn't be interested in keeping on contracts or continuing with them with threats hanging over my head every time the staff are disgruntled.

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    I enjoy travelling with BA particularly on long haul flights. I would like to know what is a fair wage for working for BA, whether in the air as a pilot or air crew or at a check in stance?
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    Thought I would bring this thread alive again now that the strikes gone ahead. question to all of you who slated the union still think that Willie Walsh and BA are right?

    He withdrew the offer which could have settled the dispute then asked the staff to pay for another £27m in loss of bookings. The same staff who are scabbing this strike. The mans a joke. He should be removed. Nationalise BA . bring it back under public ownership.

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    Thought I would bring this thread alive again now that the strikes gone ahead. question to all of you who slated the union still think that Willie Walsh and BA are right?

    He withdrew the offer which could have settled the dispute then asked the staff to pay for another £27m in loss of bookings. The same staff who are scabbing this strike. The mans a joke. He should be removed. Nationalise BA . bring it back under public ownership.
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky View Post
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    Thought I would bring this thread alive again now that the strikes gone ahead. question to all of you who slated the union still think that Willie Walsh and BA are right?

    He withdrew the offer which could have settled the dispute then asked the staff to pay for another £27m in loss of bookings. The same staff who are scabbing this strike. The mans a joke. He should be removed. Nationalise BA . bring it back under public ownership.
    If the offer on the table 'would have settled the dispute' why was strike action even necessary?

    As far as I heard, the latest offer on the table from BA was conditional upon talks continuing and no strike action being taken. Therefore when strike action was called the offer was withdrawn. This should have been no surprise to the UNITE union but instead they present it to the media as BA management 'wanting to go to war with the unions'.

    Both management and the union are equally culpable of the systematic destruction of the BA brand. It is truly amazing to behold. Competitor airlines must be rubbing their hands with delight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEEJ View Post
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    If the offer on the table 'would have settled the dispute' why was strike action even necessary?

    As far as I heard, the latest offer on the table from BA was conditional upon talks continuing and no strike action being taken. Therefore when strike action was called the offer was withdrawn. This should have been no surprise to the UNITE union but instead they present it to the media as BA management 'wanting to go to war with the unions'.

    Both management and the union are equally culpable of the systematic destruction of the BA brand. It is truly amazing to behold. Competitor airlines must be rubbing their hands with delight.
    Nonsense, Unite announced strike dates in the wake of the ballot and said they would conduct an electronic ballot of their members on the BA offer. There is nothing out of the ordinary about that, it's standard procedure. The strike would not have gone ahead if the offer was accepted by BA workers and would have gone ahead if it was rejected. Pretty simple, really.

    They've now even gone as far as to say the strike will be halted if the offer is put back. There's no reason for Walsh and the BA management not to do this if they actually want the strike to end with a negotiated settlement.

    Walsh would have known the strike would not have immediately been called off just because an offer was made (as that never happens) and so was able to make the offer knowing it would not be accepted on his ridiculous terms. The BA management wants the strike the go ahead (further evidence of which is the enormous amount of preparation undertaken) so they can destroy the obstacle to driving down wages and conditions - a highly unionised workforce.

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