Hibs transfer rumours

[hibees 7062]

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QUOTE . Seems like all their minds were made up before they ALL waisted Hibs their agent and their own time and money talking . We were out bidded for all these players , fact

Also, I dont think we were even interested in Sandaza when he signed for saints. The four players I mentioned all signed for the clubs for other reasons outside money, therefore we werent out bidded. We were able to blow Well out the water when we signed Clancy, surely we would've been able to do the same with Hammell?[/QUOTE]

Sandaza and Sheridan were done deals stjohnstone offered Sandaza £500 a week more and Sheridan £200 a week more . As for footballers going elsewhere for anything other than money Deano and Black must get on well with Mcoist eh

[SMAXXA]

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Don't go telling folk we offered higher wages than another SPL team for a player we wanted, how would that suit the agenda!

This outbid stuff is nonsense, yes money is a factor but like any business you decide on the players merits as to what they are worth. If another team sees a player as an integral part of their season then they might well offer more. Maybury would be first pick at Dens I imagine, while he might have been told he isn't guaranteed a first team berth with us.

How would folk feel if we didn't get Maybury but Mark Wilson was the target?

I would prefer Wilson

[Aldo]

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Don't go telling folk we offered higher wages than another SPL team for a player we wanted, how would that suit the agenda!

This outbid stuff is nonsense, yes money is a factor but like any business you decide on the players merits as to what they are worth. If another team sees a player as an integral part of their season then they might well offer more. Maybury would be first pick at Dens I imagine, while he might have been told he isn't guaranteed a first team berth with us.

How would folk feel if we didn't get Maybury but Mark Wilson was the target?

Wilson would be an outstanding addition IMHO however are you answering a question with a question or do you or gave you heard something??

[Leeson]

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Sandaza and Sheridan were done deals stjohnstone offered Sandaza £500 a week more and Sheridan £200 a week more . As for footballers going elsewhere for anything other than money Deano and Black must get on well with Mcoist eh

That is all nonsense. Sandaza was up in court a few months ago (drink driving) and his salary was revealed as £1,000 p/w. Really to believe Hibs only offered him £500? Really? No other SPL clubs were interested in him last summer. Torquay were in England though.

Sheridan WANTED to go to St Johnstone and gave up a percentage of this wage as Sofia to seal that deal. Hibs would have been paying him/Sofia more but he wanted to go back to St Johnstone where he liked it and his friend Jody Morris was. That came from Derek McInnes at a St Johnstone fans meeting at the Barrosa Street club in Perth.

[goosefat]

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are people seriously getting stressed out because st johnstone are willing to offer an unfit striker with a poor goalscoring record at championship and league 1, more money than we are?

And do people honestly think that motherwell, dunfermline, aberdeen, st mirren, st johnstone have higher player budgets than us? do you think any of them could have afforded miller or stokes? or even GoC for that matter?

Agreed.

I don’t think we should fall into the trap of thinking, just because a particular player may have been offered more money from another club than we were willing to offer, that we somehow shot ourselves in the foot.

It's beyond doubt that we have a bigger budget than the clubs listed above and part (but not all) of the reason for this is that we, as a club, don't go spraying money up against the toilet wall on contracts. It is true however that we might not have always picked the best players to spend that money on but, like it or loath it, we only pay what we think they are worth. Of course, there is also the added factor of the managers judgement on who to pass on and who to try and sign but, so far this season at least, I personally have not really seen any players that may have slipped through the net that I would have been overly fussed about either way – and a lot of this “who did we miss out on?” and “who out-bid us?”, etc. is just rumour anyway.

[Heisenberg]

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Sandaza and Sheridan were done deals stjohnstone offered Sandaza £500 a week more and Sheridan £200 a week more . As for footballers going elsewhere for anything other than money Deano and Black must get on well with Mcoist eh

Right, so basically I've to believe that you personally spoke to these players who revealed both their weekly wage and how much more it was than what Hibs offered? Dont think I'll be alone in taking it with a massive heap of salt. Out of the players you mentioned, the four I spoke about did move to these clubs for other reasons. Black and Shiels of course moved for the money, but you werent talking about them at first were you?

[andrew70]

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Don't go telling folk we offered higher wages than another SPL team for a player we wanted, how would that suit the agenda!

This outbid stuff is nonsense, yes money is a factor but like any business you decide on the players merits as to what they are worth. If another team sees a player as an integral part of their season then they might well offer more. Maybury would be first pick at Dens I imagine, while he might have been told he isn't guaranteed a first team berth with us.

How would folk feel if we didn't get Maybury but Mark Wilson was the target?

Mark Wilson would be a cracking signing however he's been on trial with Bristol City this past week on their tour of Scotland.

[Gmack7]

all the best FACTUAL rumours must be on the pm board

[FitbaFolkKen]

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Wilson would be an outstanding addition IMHO however are you answering a question with a question or do you or gave you heard something??

I had heard it from a Hoop last week, apparently the reason we were stalling is because we had a preferred choice. Now whether he was saying that to watch me get excited by someone they released on a free for a laugh, I don't know. But he did seem convinced that we were just stringing Maybury along.

I hope he is right as I think he would be an excellent addition.(this is when someonme comes along and says "he's signed for Fleetwood Town or something!"

[Leeson]

Rowan Vine in his interview when signing for St Johnstone said he'd been training on his own all summer just waiting for a call from a club willing to give him a chance. St Johnstone did that last week when they invited him up to train.

Not sure why fans are so eager for these stories that reflect badly on Hibs. It seems pretty clear if the club did show any interest, it was after he scored two goals on Saturday and by that time he had probably made up his mind to sign for Saints. He certainly hinted at that when the Rangers interest was mentioned. He said he had been made to feel welcome in Perth and wasn't going to tout himself about. If Hibs did contact his agent, I bet Vine never even spoke to the club, so how did he turn Hibs down?

Negative for the sake of being negative some posters.

[RoxburghHibs]

Wilson is the sort of signing I'd like to see us making - although wouldn't mind Maybury as a squad player.

Has Craig Beattie signed for The Rangers FC - as he is another player who I'd take in a flash.

[Future17]

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I had heard it from a Hoop last week, apparently the reason we were stalling is because we had a preferred choice. Now whether he was saying that to watch me get excited by someone they released on a free for a laugh, I don't know. But he did seem convinced that we were just stringing Maybury along.

I hope he is right as I think he would be an excellent addition.(this is when someonme comes along and says "he's signed for Fleetwood Town or something!"

Never was a truer word spoken...

[Kato]

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Spoke to all these players , they went elsewhere for more money

Potential "Trumpet of The Week Award" stuff here.

[mjhibby]

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Is this the Aberdeen team that finished bottom 6 and we beat in the semi final that have lost 9 players!! Whats with the Aberdeen love in. The are as bad as us with no training centre and an out of date stadium. Arnason and Fyvie will be huge losses for them. Vernon is there only striker. I think with our youngsters we have a better squad than them. But time will tell.

See movements for both below. All 9 Aberdeen players were first team players. Most of ours were loan deals or fringe players.

ABERDEEN

Players IN (3 players)
1. Jonny Hayes - winger (Inverness CT)
2. Niall McGinn - winger (Celtic)
3. Gary Naismith


Players OUT (9 players)
1. Kari Arnason
2. Rory McArdle
3. Darren Mackie
4. Youl Mawene
5. Mo Chalali
6. Yoann Folly
7. Danny Uchechi
8. Mark Reynolds (loan end)
9. Fraser Fyvie (Wigan)

HIBERNIAN

Players IN (5 players so far)

1. Tim Clancy - defender (Motherwell)
2. James McPake - defender (Coventry City)
3. Paul Cairney - midfielder (Partick Thistle)
4. Ben Williams - goalkeeper (Colchester United)
5. Leigh Griffiths - forward (Wolves, loan)
(in talks with Maybury, Forsyth and Kerr)

Players OUT(14 players)
1. Graham Stack
2. Matt Doherty (end of Loan)
3. Richie Towell (end of LOAN)
4 James McPake (End of Loan)
5. Francombe (end of LOAN)
6. Ian Murray
7. Sean Welsh (Partick T)
8. Tom Soares (End of loan)
9. Garry O'Connor
10. Lee Griffiths (end of LOAN)
11. Roy O'Donovan (end of LOAN)
12. Martin Scott (LOAN to Ross County)
13. Isaiah Osbourne (Blackpool)
14. Mark Brown

I think those 2 lists show how desperately poor scottish football is at the moment.Aberdeen have lost 9 players 5 of whom were first picks and replaced them with 3 players of whom only mcginn and hayes will probably make their mark.We have lost 12(i dont include scott or welsh as they didnt make the team at all) and have replaced them with 4 good signings and cairney who we will have to see how he develops.So we have a net loss of 7 players and aberdeen 6.Beats me why anybody is tipping the dons to do well as they were as bad as us last season.The only reason hibs or aberdeen will do well is if other teams have gone backwards which in hertz and wells case they have.i doubt though they have gone backwards enough to see us finishing near them never mind above them.
Im not usually a we are doomed merchant but unless we sign at least 3 seasoned pros very soon then we will struggle to get near 6th.The loss of those players must have drastically reduced the wage bill and surely we can sign at least 3 decent players.If not all the chairmans pleas(which is happening at every club) will be a waste of time and we will all be moaning our heads of at the team.I hope im wrong and we get off to a flier but cant see that happening.Can anybody see us flying at the start.

[hibees 7062]

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Potential "Trumpet of The Week Award" stuff here.

Explain

[yekimevol]

what happened to the four signings this week !!!!!!!

not that im impatient or anything.

[scoopyboy]

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Potential "Trumpet of The Week Award" stuff here.

Probably "Trumpet of the Month" and it's only the 2nd with a reasonable chance of "Trumpet of the Season" and it's only August.

[Lucius Apuleius]

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Probably "Trumpet of the Month" and it's only the 2nd with a reasonable chance of "Trumpet of the Season" and it's only August.

I think there is possibility of Trumpet of the Decade coming too. At least a very good nomination.

[hibees 7062]

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That is all nonsense. Sandaza was up in court a few months ago (drink driving) and his salary was revealed as £1,000 p/w. Really to believe Hibs only offered him £500? Really? No other SPL clubs were interested in him last summer. Torquay were in England though.

Sheridan WANTED to go to St Johnstone and gave up a percentage of this wage as Sofia to seal that deal. Hibs would have been paying him/Sofia more but he wanted to go back to St Johnstone where he liked it and his friend Jody Morris was. That came from Derek McInnes at a St Johnstone fans meeting at the Barrosa Street club in Perth.

Hmmm i was at court 2 weeks ago and told them i was on £200 per week . Do you honestly think he was on £1000 a week ? So Sheridan just fancied playing against East Fife cause he never had anything better to do that day knowing all the time he wanted to go to saints .

[hibees 7062]

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Probably "Trumpet of the Month" and it's only the 2nd with a reasonable chance of "Trumpet of the Season" and it's only August.

Explain then

[scoopyboy]

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Hmmm i was at court 2 weeks ago and told them i was on £200 per week . Do you honestly think he was on £1000 a week ? So Sheridan just fancied playing against East Fife cause he never had anything better to do that day knowing all the time he wanted to go to saints .

You do realise that the court can request from your employers evidence of your salary or ask to see your most recent wage slips?

FACT - been there.

[SteveHFC]

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Apparently Maybury has been told no and will sign for Dundee.

Unbelievable. We are losing out to ****ing dundee on player!. Same old *****

[scoopyboy]

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Explain then

OK, I don't believe you spoke to all the players you claim and furthermore they all willingly gave you their salaries and what they were offered from elsewhere.

I know a couple of the players you mentioned and it's simply not their style.

However Scoopyboy is a reasonable man and if you PM me with your name I will find out if you did or not.

If you have I will come back on here and apologise.

Of course you can always tell us up front right now.

[R'Albin]

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Unbelievable. We are losing out to ****ing dundee on player!. Same old *****

"Apparently Maybury has been told no"

[hibees 7062]

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OK, I don't believe you spoke to all the players you claim and furthermore they all willingly gave you their salaries and what they were offered from elsewhere.

I know a couple of the players you mentioned and it's simply not their style.

However Scoopyboy is a reasonable man and if you PM me with your name I will find out if you did or not.

If you have I will come back on here and apologise.

Of course you can always tell us up front right now.

Firstly please refrain from treating me like a dafty . Secondly i said Hibs spoke to these players and not me

[hibees 7062]

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You do realise that the court can request from your employers evidence of your salary or ask to see your most recent wage slips?

FACT - been there.

Yes of course but dont you think that will be his net pay

[Kato]

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Explain

It's plain

[scoopyboy]

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Firstly please refrain from treating me like a dafty . Secondly i said Hibs spoke to these players and not me

First point, I think you are a dafty.

Second point you never said Hibs spoke to these players, if you check back your post it said "spoke to these players".

[scoopyboy]

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Yes of course but dont you think that will be his net pay

Yes, I would agree that the net wage would be quoted.

I was more meaning it would have been a dangerous game to tell the court lies regarding income.

[Andy74]

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Hmmm i was at court 2 weeks ago and told them i was on £200 per week . Do you honestly think he was on £1000 a week ? So Sheridan just fancied playing against East Fife cause he never had anything better to do that day knowing all the time he wanted to go to saints .

Hibs were not outbid on Sheridan.

Hibs walked away from the deal due to payments requested by one of the parties in the negotiations.

FACT!!