Hibs transfer rumours

[Andy74]

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Notice they've signed Gary naysmith today as well.

I don't necessarily disagree with you but could it be because they've gone for the much spoken of quality over quantity that we talk about every year but never seem to find.

McPake, Williams, Grifiths, Clancy and potentially Cairney come into the category of decent quality for me.

We need more but I don't think anyone has signed much better.

[H18sry]

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Which is?

That the majority of loan players do not give a **** about the teams they are loaned to and cannot wait to get back to there clubs.

[marinello59]

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McPake, Williams, Grifiths, Clancy and potentially Cairney come into the category of decent quality for me.

We need more but I don't think anyone has signed much better.

No, no ,no ,no no. Only if they had signed for anybody else would they qualify as quality players. This isn't 'Nam, this is hibs.net, there are rules.

[Phil MaGlass]

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That the majority of loan players do not give a **** about the teams they are loaned to and cannot wait to get back to there clubs.

aye Vaz Te for example

[frazeHFC]

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aye Vaz Te for example

He was the worst for it.

[Fergus52]

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aye Vaz Te for example

Vaz te wasn't on loan.

Or am I missing something?

[J-C]

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Vaz te wasn't on loan.

Or am I missing something?

Nope yer right, a short term deal to end of the season, didn't have the wisdom to sign him up for longer so we could've gained out of it.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

this thread may as well be deleted as there is a fair chance there will be no more other than Maybury and/or Kerr.

[marinello59]

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Nope yer right, a short term deal to end of the season, didn't have the wisdom to sign him up for longer so we could've gained out of it.

Do you honestly think he would have signed for longer thus taking his future (and those all important signing on fees) out of his own hands? There is no way on this earth Vaz Te saw the SPL or Hibs in particular as a long term career move. Given the talent he so obviously has a short term loan should have been beneficial to Hibs and the player. Unfortunately he was willing to take the dosh and give very little back in return. That's not the clubs fault.

[J-C]

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this thread may as well be deleted as there is a fair chance there will be no more other than Maybury and/or Kerr.

Thought the window was open till end of August.

[ScottB]

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That the majority of loan players do not give a **** about the teams they are loaned to and cannot wait to get back to there clubs.

Like McPake and Griffiths then aye?

[Hermit Crab]

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Thought the window was open till end of August.

It is.

[Hermit Crab]

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this thread may as well be deleted as there is a fair chance there will be no more other than Maybury and/or Kerr.

And you know this because.....??

[goosefat]

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Vaz te wasn't on loan.

Or am I missing something?

I'm not 100% sure, but I thought he was a free agent at the time and signed up with the understanding he would leave at the end of that season. Shame CC didn't go with him (or CC go and Vaz Te stay, for that matter).

[Hermit Crab]

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Like McPake and Griffiths then aye?

He did say "majority" mate not them all.

[H18sry]

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Like McPake and Griffiths then aye?

Which part of MAJORITY do you not understand

[goosefat]

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Which part of MAJORITY do you not understand

The part between the 'M' and 'Y', it would seem.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

I don't know for sure. I'm just losing faith.

Getting frustrated with the team/formation Fenlon is playing and sick of watching Hibs every summer f@£$y about until the first game of the season before bringing players in.

We are in desperate need of 'almost' a new midfield with a bit width but with four days until the new season we still have an underachieving, lightweight creatively challenged midfield.

[hibees 7062]

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I don't know for sure. I'm just losing faith.

Getting frustrated with the team/formation Fenlon is playing and sick of watching Hibs every summer f@£$y about until the first game of the season before bringing players in.

We are in desperate need of 'almost' a new midfield with a bit width but with four days until the new season we still have an underachieving, lightweight creatively challenged midfield.

[Andy74]

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That the majority of loan players do not give a **** about the teams they are loaned to and cannot wait to get back to there clubs.

We only really loaned players for the second half of last season and they were not responsible for the mess we were in at that point - the permenant players had done that by themselves. The loan players came in and helped get us out of the mess and got us to a cup final.

Maybe they don't care about Hibs but I didn't see many if any playing like that. They all done their jobs. McPake and Griffiths for example were pretty key and were on loan.

Andy Webster captained Dundee Utd to the Scottish Cup whilst on loan.

Loaning players is not the issue, it's identifying the right players to come into the club, whoever they are and no matter how long they are here for.

[ScottB]

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Which part of MAJORITY do you not understand

Who were all our loanees last season all in then?

McPake and Griffiths undoubtedly 'cared.'

I would say Docherty and Soares clearly didn't give a crap as you suggest. The others I wouldn't list one way or the other. So that's hardly a majority, or a reason not to go after a potentially decent player, who given his background looks more like a McPake or Griffiths than a Soares or Docherty.

[Andy74]

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Who were all our loanees last season all in then?

McPake and Griffiths undoubtedly 'cared.'

I would say Docherty and Soares clearly didn't give a crap as you suggest. The others I wouldn't list one way or the other. So that's hardly a majority, or a reason not to go after a potentially decent player, who given his background looks more like a McPake or Griffiths than a Soares or Docherty.

Doherty might have been a choob but he performed. Soares was never fit but clearly cared when you saw the players celebrating goals etc.

Francombe also got stuck in when asked, O'Donovan was just rubbish but didn't have an issue with his application.

It's just a lazy comment about loan players if you ask me - which no-one did!

[ScottB]

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Doherty might have been a choob but he performed. Soares was never fit but clearly cared when you saw the players celebrating goals etc.

Francombe also got stuck in when asked, O'Donovan was just rubbish but didn't have an issue with his application.

It's just a lazy comment about loan players if you ask me - which no-one did!

True, I don't personally have any issue with loan players. Indeed a lot of them appeared to care more and try harder than some of those that were here permanently last season.

[The Sea-gull]

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McPake, Williams, Grifiths, Clancy and potentially Cairney come into the category of decent quality for me.

We need more but I don't think anyone has signed much better.

We were the team in the league who needed the biggest overhaul. What has been done so far is not enough. Other teams may not have done much but they have existing quality. Looking through the squads of other teams aberdeen, united, motherwell (squad is thin but still has quality), st Johnstone and hearts all will probably finish above us as things stand. Getting a top 6 place might be difficult and if we dont show an improvement in spirit and concentration we will be in another dog fight at the bottom.

[.Sean.]

Aberdeen do have some fine players. Seems as if Reynolds will be back there next year and Hayes, McGinn and Vernon would all probably walk into our forst 11 at this time. Naysmith, Anderson and Rae are exactly the type of experienced heads we could do with. Seem to have a solid 'keeper in Brown aswell and a few young prospects. They'll be fine next season.

[SteveHFC]

Aberdeen to finish 3rd?

[scoopyboy]

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Aberdeen do have some fine players. Seems as if Reynolds will be back there next year and Hayes, McGinn and Vernon would all probably walk into our forst 11 at this time. Naysmith, Anderson and Rae are exactly the type of experienced heads we could do with. Seem to have a solid 'keeper in Brown aswell and a few young prospects. They'll be fine next season.

Experience is one thing but old gits is something else.

How many games did Aberdeen get out of Anderson after he signed?

[007 Mickey Weir]

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Aberdeen do have some fine players. Seems as if Reynolds will be back there next year and Hayes, McGinn and Vernon would all probably walk into our forst 11 at this time. Naysmith, Anderson and Rae are exactly the type of experienced heads we could do with. Seem to have a solid 'keeper in Brown aswell and a few young prospects. They'll be fine next season.

Is this the Aberdeen team that finished bottom 6 and we beat in the semi final that have lost 9 players!! Whats with the Aberdeen love in. The are as bad as us with no training centre and an out of date stadium. Arnason and Fyvie will be huge losses for them. Vernon is there only striker. I think with our youngsters we have a better squad than them. But time will tell.

See movements for both below. All 9 Aberdeen players were first team players. Most of ours were loan deals or fringe players.

ABERDEEN

Players IN (3 players)
1. Jonny Hayes - winger (Inverness CT)
2. Niall McGinn - winger (Celtic)
3. Gary Naismith


Players OUT (9 players)
1. Kari Arnason
2. Rory McArdle
3. Darren Mackie
4. Youl Mawene
5. Mo Chalali
6. Yoann Folly
7. Danny Uchechi
8. Mark Reynolds (loan end)
9. Fraser Fyvie (Wigan)

HIBERNIAN

Players IN (5 players so far)

1. Tim Clancy - defender (Motherwell)
2. James McPake - defender (Coventry City)
3. Paul Cairney - midfielder (Partick Thistle)
4. Ben Williams - goalkeeper (Colchester United)
5. Leigh Griffiths - forward (Wolves, loan)
(in talks with Maybury, Forsyth and Kerr)

Players OUT(14 players)
1. Graham Stack
2. Matt Doherty (end of Loan)
3. Richie Towell (end of LOAN)
4 James McPake (End of Loan)
5. Francombe (end of LOAN)
6. Ian Murray
7. Sean Welsh (Partick T)
8. Tom Soares (End of loan)
9. Garry O'Connor
10. Lee Griffiths (end of LOAN)
11. Roy O'Donovan (end of LOAN)
12. Martin Scott (LOAN to Ross County)
13. Isaiah Osbourne (Blackpool)
14. Mark Brown

[R'Albin]

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Aberdeen to finish 3rd?

Good one MB

[.Sean.]

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Experience is one thing but old gits is something else.

How many games did Aberdeen get out of Anderson after he signed?

You ken fine well, J. He was injured! Nane I think.



Rae and Naysmith will skoosh the SPL. Probably says more about the standard of the league than their ability, but they'll do well at Aberdeen. By all accounts Rae was excellent last term.