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    Our Current Form - Mentality

    Iím concerned about how recent events have affected the playersí mentality.

    A couple of short weeks ago, we were 1-0 up at Ibrox and looking good to go top of the league until a debatable decision cost us dear.

    Weíve been garbage since then and Iím concerned that we could let this will turn out to be a big turning point in the season.

    EG season we got relegated 1997/1998, we lost 4-3 at home to Rangers from being 3-1 up. Ripped the ar5e out of our confidence and we didnít recover.

    Can also remember in the first division winning 1998/1999 season, when we were under pressure from Ayr United. We were 2-0 down away to Ayr after 10 minutes, and 3-1 down with 10 to go. We scored 2 in the last minute to draw 3-3 and they dropped away after that.

    Iím not sure if thereís a lack of confidence or leadership.
    It just seems to me that the momentum is going in the wrong way and weíre not sure how to change it.

    Whenever we lose a goal, the heads go down, the body language is awful and we donít seem to have anyone to lift the teamís spirits.

    Any thoughts?


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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbydog View Post
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    Iím concerned about how recent events have affected the playersí mentality.

    A couple of short weeks ago, we were 1-0 up at Ibrox and looking good to go top of the league until a debatable decision cost us dear.

    Weíve been garbage since then and Iím concerned that we could let this will turn out to be a big turning point in the season.

    EG season we got relegated 1997/1998, we lost 4-3 at home to Rangers from being 3-1 up. Ripped the ar5e out of our confidence and we didnít recover.

    Can also remember in the first division winning 1998/1999 season, when we were under pressure from Ayr United. We were 2-0 down away to Ayr after 10 minutes, and 3-1 down with 10 to go. We scored 2 in the last minute to draw 3-3 and they dropped away after that.

    Iím not sure if thereís a lack of confidence or leadership.
    It just seems to me that the momentum is going in the wrong way and weíre not sure how to change it.

    Whenever we lose a goal, the heads go down, the body language is awful and we donít seem to have anyone to lift the teamís spirits.

    Any thoughts?
    Yes totally agree and have already raised this point on another thread. The debacle of the recent events at Ibrox has badly affected the side.

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    I think its more to do with missing our most physically competitive players in the spine of our team. Newell is a very assured player, but slow and struggles to get second balls etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inconsequential View Post
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    Yes totally agree and have already raised this point on another thread. The debacle of the recent events at Ibrox has badly affected the side.
    I agree, I think it has too.

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    I’m concerned about how recent events have affected the players’ mentality.

    A couple of short weeks ago, we were 1-0 up at Ibrox and looking good to go top of the league until a debatable decision cost us dear.

    We’ve been garbage since then and I’m concerned that we could let this will turn out to be a big turning point in the season.

    EG season we got relegated 1997/1998, we lost 4-3 at home to Rangers from being 3-1 up. Ripped the ar5e out of our confidence and we didn’t recover.

    Can also remember in the first division winning 1998/1999 season, when we were under pressure from Ayr United. We were 2-0 down away to Ayr after 10 minutes, and 3-1 down with 10 to go. We scored 2 in the last minute to draw 3-3 and they dropped away after that.

    I’m not sure if there’s a lack of confidence or leadership.
    It just seems to me that the momentum is going in the wrong way and we’re not sure how to change it.

    Whenever we lose a goal, the heads go down, the body language is awful and we don’t seem to have anyone to lift the team’s spirits.

    Any thoughts?
    Porteous and Magennis, nothing more complicated than losing our better players

    Once they and Doidge return all will be well.
    Until then we will continue to struggle.
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    We donít recover from going a goal down

    I think the players know this too, thatís the real worry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicho87 View Post
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    We donít recover from going a goal down

    I think the players know this too, thatís the real worry
    Weíve done it a good few times this season IIRC.

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    Weíve done it a good few times this season IIRC.
    Motherwell first game Definatley

    Ross county at home?

    Ross just doesnít win big games, becoming more apparent each week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicho87 View Post
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    Motherwell first game Definatley

    Ross county at home?

    Ross just doesnít win big games, becoming more apparent each week.
    I had it in my mind it was more than that but looks like coming from behind to win was just Motherwell. Came from behind to draw with St Mirren.

    I defended JR loads last season but these last two performances and results are indefensible. Absolutely dreadful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
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    Weíve done it a good few times this season IIRC.
    Our record this season after going behind is;

    W - 2
    D - 3
    L - 4
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    I had it in my mind it was more than that but looks like coming from behind to win was just Motherwell.

    I defended JR loads last season but these last two performances and results are indefensible. Absolutely dreadful.
    Motherwell and Santa Coloma are our only come from behind wins so far this season.
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    Our record this season after going behind is;

    W - 2
    D - 3
    L - 4
    Iím actually surprised weíve went behind so many times.

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    Iím actually surprised weíve went behind so many times.
    Yes we've played 16 matches so far in all competitions and gone behind in 9 of them.

    St Mirren, Dundee and Rijeka have been draws and Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Rangers and Rijeka have been defeats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Yes we've played 16 matches so far in all competitions and gone behind in 9 of them.

    St Mirren, Dundee and Rijeka have been draws and Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Rangers and Rijeka have been defeats.
    I actually didnít realise it was that high

    Just brutal it really is grim reading the more you do the research

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Yes we've played 16 matches so far in all competitions and gone behind in 9 of them.

    St Mirren, Dundee and Rijeka have been draws and Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Rangers and Rijeka have been defeats.
    Thatís a poor record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Our record this season after going behind is;

    W - 2
    D - 3
    L - 4
    So we actually manage to get atleast a point after going behind more often than we go on to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicho87 View Post
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    We donít recover from going a goal down

    I think the players know this too, thatís the real worry
    The stats clearly show otherwise.

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    So we actually manage to get atleast a point after going behind more often than we go on to lose.
    Yes although 3 of those matches were European qualifiers, 1 of which against the Andorrans who weren't very good to say the least.

    Our record in league matches is;

    W - 1
    D - 2
    L - 3
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    The stats clearly show otherwise.
    Fine if your not supporting a club that isnít in the top five for budget I guess

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    Unfortunately, this team is living up to our decades acquired epithet of being "soft".

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    the team has been impacted by some key injuries as well as poor form. Murphy, Magennis and Doidge have all had lengthy periods out, and that is hurting us a lot. Match that with the likes of Doig and Nisbet, two of our top players, performing way below their standard of last season. Means we are not the team of last season. Add to that the fact we have such a limited squad, we donít have the options to change it. Ross isnít a magician, and will know he is struggling with what he has..


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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbydog View Post
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    Iím concerned about how recent events have affected the playersí mentality.

    A couple of short weeks ago, we were 1-0 up at Ibrox and looking good to go top of the league until a debatable decision cost us dear.

    Weíve been garbage since then and Iím concerned that we could let this will turn out to be a big turning point in the season.

    EG season we got relegated 1997/1998, we lost 4-3 at home to Rangers from being 3-1 up. Ripped the ar5e out of our confidence and we didnít recover.

    Can also remember in the first division winning 1998/1999 season, when we were under pressure from Ayr United. We were 2-0 down away to Ayr after 10 minutes, and 3-1 down with 10 to go. We scored 2 in the last minute to draw 3-3 and they dropped away after that.

    Iím not sure if thereís a lack of confidence or leadership.
    It just seems to me that the momentum is going in the wrong way and weíre not sure how to change it.

    Whenever we lose a goal, the heads go down, the body language is awful and we donít seem to have anyone to lift the teamís spirits.

    Any thoughts?
    Does our captain look the sort to drag the team out the ****? Nah neither do I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithTheHibby View Post
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    Does our captain look the sort to drag the team out the ****? Nah neither do I.
    Good point. To be a captain, you need certain leadership qualities. You need to lead by example, require to motivate those around you, display aggression, the right kind, when it is needed. Have the respect from your peers etc

    I just donít see this with Paul Hanlon, never have done to be honest.

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    We had our biggest leader on the park today according to some fans. Maybe just maybe this leader stuff is outdated nonsense as pretty much anyone thatís played football know. If you need someone shouting at you to play to your best then the game is up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicho87 View Post
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    We donít recover from going a goal down

    I think the players know this too, thatís the real worry
    The same applied when we lost the cup final we went a goal down and everyone knew we wouldnt come back thats a massive concern we lack a never say die attitude just now. We played the worst team in the league today and offered nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libby Hibby View Post
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    Good point. To be a captain, you need certain leadership qualities. You need to lead by example, require to motivate those around you, display aggression, the right kind, when it is needed. Have the respect from your peers etc

    I just donít see this with Paul Hanlon, never have done to be honest.
    Should have 11 captains on the pitch pulling together unfortunately we are soft as ***** in all positions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    We had our biggest leader on the park today according to some fans. Maybe just maybe this leader stuff is outdated nonsense as pretty much anyone thatís played football know. If you need someone shouting at you to play to your best then the game is up.
    My issue with Hanlon over the past couple of games is nothing to do with the predictable leadership nonsense that comes up every time we lose, but more to with the fact that heís played as badly as anyone.

    Itís not like him, but he has been poor.

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    Should have 11 captains on the pitch pulling together unfortunately we are soft as ***** in all positions
    The players arenít hungry. Part of that is down to them, another part is down to the management.

    JR doesnít strike me as the sort who can imprint a winning mentality and hunger and desire onto the team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libby Hibby View Post
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    Good point. To be a captain, you need certain leadership qualities. You need to lead by example, require to motivate those around you, display aggression, the right kind, when it is needed. Have the respect from your peers etc

    I just donít see this with Paul Hanlon, never have done to be honest.
    Never a captain, never has been.

    I think most people could overlook that fact, it's pretty obvious to most, as he was generally playing pretty well. The issue now is he is not playing well so his lack of leadership will also be magnified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    My issue with Hanlon over the past couple of games is nothing to do with the predictable leadership nonsense that comes up every time we lose, but more to with the fact that heís played as badly as anyone.

    Itís not like him, but he has been poor.
    Iíd love to see some predicable leadership nonsense from any of our players right now.

    For weeks the heads have been down, thereís no fight or spirit and weíve just been going through the motions.

    You need to earn the right to win a game. We donít. And we wonít until they stop hiding away like little fairies.

    Hanlon should be setting the example and getting some aggression out of his team mates.

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