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29-08-2021 06:26 AM #121
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29-08-2021 09:36 AM #122
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Waste of a jersey 90% of the time he is on the pitch so we’d effectively be playing with 10 men most of the game.
Allan was decent a few years ago but is nowhere near where he needs to be now. I can’t see him being at Hibs after this transfer window for his & Hibs benefit.
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29-08-2021 09:41 AM #123This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-08-2021 09:46 AM #125
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The amount of stick Scott Allan seems to be increasingly getting week on week is weird.
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29-08-2021 09:46 AM #126This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-08-2021 09:48 AM #127
He’s still capable of the absolutely sublime but the rest of his game appears to have understandably deteriorated. Whether that returns if he gets more game time I have no idea but this Hibs side is hard working and mobile and at this moment in time his play doesn’t fit in to what we do.
It’s worth noting that the much maligned Drey Wright also set up a goal with a beautiful back heel earlier in the season and that’s where I see Scott’s playing time - fifteen to twenty minutes here and there when a key player needs replaced or protected.
If Scott is happy with that then I’m happy to have him here (though his wage would need to reflect that if he was to stay beyond his contact).
If he’s not then I will look back on his time with Hibs with dozens of incredible memories that he’s given us. It’s been a joy at times and I wish him nothing but the best either way.
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29-08-2021 10:55 AM #128This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think the argument going on is that a lot of Scott’s biggest supporters keep saying he ‘deserves’ a run of games and a lot of people quite rightly think that he should be treated the same as others and play himself back in by showing up well when he gets the chance.
Personally I’ve always liked him but not seen anything YET that would merit him being ahead of Magennis, JDH or Newell. Could happen, but to me the signs haven’t been too great - although his moment of magic yesterday shows what a very useful guy he is for us to have around.
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29-08-2021 10:58 AM #129
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He won’t be starting if we have a full squad. Still a place for him in the squad though.
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29-08-2021 11:00 AM #130This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The fans love the guy and I'm sure he knows it!
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29-08-2021 11:03 AM #131This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-08-2021 01:03 PM #132
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I think like any player that's coming back from injury (or a severe health scare like his) deserves a chance to get back to sharpness and the fitness levels required through play time when its available, I think yesterday was the longest he's played so far this season and he got an assist with a lovely back heel. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out a player can't get back to their best with cameo appearances.
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29-08-2021 04:04 PM #133This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Mon Scott Allan. The majority are right behind you!
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29-08-2021 04:37 PM #134This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-08-2021 04:42 PM #135This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You do sometimes wonder about some of these posters and where their loyalties lie, no real supporter would say such things.
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29-08-2021 04:42 PM #136This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-08-2021 05:27 PM #140This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's not waffle, it's a genuine comment. I'll be surprised if he's still here. No more, no less than that.
I'll be surprised because I don't think we can afford to have a player on our books who we're only going to use for less than a quarter of the game.
Also, others have suggested that he's looking for a move himself.
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29-08-2021 05:32 PM #141This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-08-2021 07:30 PM #145
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That is pretty much where I am too. He looks absolutely miles off it to me. Like a George Best type figure(obviously nowhere near as good) who is still capable of a flick or trick or defence splitting pass. His football brain is still the same, which for me is a pity as he often plays a more difficult ball than needed when an equally advantageous ball is on and much easier. He can do that because he seems to get great credit for seeing a pass even though he gives the ball away playing it. That to me is why he keeps trying it, Hibs fans seem to only remember his good passes. I have always hoped he would play the odds a little more wisely and often as he gained games but no sign of that.
I think 90% is very harsh in terms of a man short but he has always been poor when we don't have the ball and is even worse now. We already have Murphy who is like a man short when we don't have the ball so I can't see how you could play them together. Murphy being out is a chance for Scottie so he may well prove me and others wrong.
The thing that rings truest in your post is how hard working this Hibs team is(I'd except Murphy myself). It is very unusual for fans to point to a player not putting a shift in these days. Nisbet, Doidge, Magennis, Boyle all work hard and Doyle-Hayes and Newall all dynamos combine that with fullbacks who go up and down with the ball and we are very mobile and fit. Murphy is our bit of magic and he is in form. Id much rather play him than Allan but I'm hoping Scott can fill that roll and give us even more legs and retain the quality on the ball.
Allan is definitely a useful squad player but he is likely one of our higher earners. If he signs a new contract I would hope it reflects that he is at that level now. Mind you he might get some games with Murphy potentially out and that could force him into Jacks's plans even when we are injury free. I can't see it based on what we have seen so far since his return.
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29-08-2021 07:42 PM #146
Anyone who has paid the slightest bit of attention to my posts will know I’m a huge Scott Allan fan. I was delighted when he came on yesterday. I thought he did OK, but no more than that until his flick to Boyle. However I personally thought he was too advanced, I’d like to have seen him playing a bit deeper and being given the opportunity to pick a pass.
I’d heard suggestions beforehand that he was carrying a bit of extra weight, but I didn’t think so watching him yesterday, however he just didn’t look right to me. Can’t be specific but just didn’t look 100%. I still hope he just needs regular game time to get back to somewhere close to his previous levels. If not with us, sadly, then another team as is looking more likely. I will repeat myself by saying I don’t see him as an impact sub, he needs, certainly at present, time to play himself into a game.
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29-08-2021 07:48 PM #147
As much as I love SA and clearly all the Hibs fans do, I honestly don’t think it would make a huge difference to us if he was to leave. He would invariably move to a club not as good as us and as much as I’d me gutted to see him go that’s probably more emotional than practical. He’s got a job to do in our squad this season and would defo contribute a lot but suspect he doesn’t want to be that player playing a supporting role and I can’t blame him for that. It’s a shame as the international break couldn’t have come at a worse time for him and even with the derby I can’t see him starting. Don’t expect him to leave this window but wouldn’t rule it out January if he isn’t playing.
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29-08-2021 08:11 PM #148
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29-08-2021 08:21 PM #149
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When you look at his form before the injury it was dropping off after a very promising start to the season. He had been scoring goals and also chipping in regularly with assists and good minutes on the park. It fell away a good while before he eventually had to stop for his health.
I suppose the question is can he get back to that form. I can't see it but hope he proves me wrong. It won't be easy though as we have a strong starting 11 with a likely starter coming in a few months and possibly one or two to come in before the window slams shut
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29-08-2021 08:21 PM #150
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I responded to a suggestion that Allan gets a run of games and asked who would be dropped.
Some people need to take their Scott Allan blinkers off.
The guy has done remarkably well considering his health issues but we are talking about performances on the park. If we have any ambition as a club then we have to look at the big picture. Would anyone on here even consider starting Allan against Hearts?, if not then that says it all.
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