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    Does anyone like Turnbull?


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    The good thing is we have genuine options now all over the park, probably for the first time in years.
    Genuinely excited to see how we get on.

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    Does anybody think he might start numbers 1 to 11?

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    Gilmour has to play if heís fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    Gilmour has to play if heís fit.
    I would start Gilmour. Also Liam Cooper at the back. Not sure about up front as the two don't seem to compliment each others style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calidad View Post
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    Does anyone like Turnbull?
    I think we should allow Steve Clark the opportunity to manage at the finals before bringing Eddie in 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calidad View Post
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    Does anyone like Turnbull?
    He looks a prospect, but not the head turner that Gilmour has been, so not yet there enough to be considered for starting 11

    He was at fault for Holland first goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain G View Post
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    There is no way he won't go for Marshall in goal, after his heroics in qualifying and the poor showing my Gordon against the Dutch.

    We do need a better upcoming option in goal sooner rather than later though.
    Agree. Gordon's been up against the likes of Morton, Alloa and Arbroath all season. Think I'd be hiding behind the settee if Harry Kane was lining one up against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    Agree. Gordon's been up against the likes of Morton, Alloa and Arbroath all season. Think I'd be hiding behind the settee if Harry Kane was lining one up against him.
    He hid last time he was up against Harry Kane, was caught like a rabbit in the headlights for his equaliser against us a couple of years back.

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    A midfield 3 made up from a combination of McTominay, McGinn, McGregor and/or Gimour lacks a bit of creative spark for me and all of them (with maybe McGinn being an exception) are better suited playing deeper.

    Iíd play a back 3. Cooper, Tierney plus 1 other at centre back.
    Forrest and Robertson as wing backs.
    A central midfield 4 in a diamond shape - McTominay sitting, then Armstrong and McGinn with Turnbull/Christie advanced.
    Che Adams up front.

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    McTominay as well as John McGinn are good players allied to flair/creative players. Right now Billy Gilmour is that player but will Steve Clarke play our younger guys or just stick with the old guard?? I say give youth a chance but I'm just a supporter..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fergus52 View Post
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    The team I'd play:

    Gordon
    McTominay-Cooper-Tierney
    Forrest-McGregor-McGinn-Robertson
    Armstrong
    Adams-Fraser

    The team I think Clarke will play:

    Marshall
    Hendry-Hanley-Tierney
    O'Donnel-McTominay-McGregor-Robertson
    McGinn
    Dykes-Adams
    I think you're spot on with the starting 11, which I think might change for the England game (depending on the Czech result), with a forward dropping out and Armstrong or Gilmour coming in to push McGinn further up.

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    Yup. I think Fergus52 has got Clarke's opening selection spot on.
    The Czechs have problems in central defence, so I reckon two strikers makes sense.
    An extra midfielder (Armstrong or Christie) will come in to bolster the side at Wembley.
    If we are chasing something against Croatia, then we might see Gilmour and Patterson start.

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    Probably not relevant to the original point of the thread but I just want to add that Iím absolutely buzzing about these Euros starting on Friday.

    Iím quite a miserable ******* so I did wonder how excited Iíd get once the time came but itís fair to say Iím needing scraped off the ceiling this week.

    Really think Scotland could do ok, thatís probably my first mistake though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    A midfield 3 made up from a combination of McTominay, McGinn, McGregor and/or Gimour lacks a bit of creative spark for me and all of them (with maybe McGinn being an exception) are better suited playing deeper.

    Iíd play a back 3. Cooper, Tierney plus 1 other at centre back.
    Forrest and Robertson as wing backs.
    A central midfield 4 in a diamond shape - McTominay sitting, then Armstrong and McGinn with Turnbull/Christie advanced.
    Che Adams up front.
    Mctominay isn't really a holding midfielder, he's best box to box

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithTheHibby View Post
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    He hid last time he was up against Harry Kane, was caught like a rabbit in the headlights for his equaliser against us a couple of years back.
    Yep to be honest all the blame was put on Armstrong however think Gordon was equally if not more to blame for that goal. Would actually prefer McLaughlin to him if anything happened to Marshall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1van Sprou7e View Post
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    Mctominay isn't really a holding midfielder, he's best box to box
    Not sure we have a holding midfielder

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Not sure we have a holding midfielder
    McGregor and Gilmour are good in the deep lying playmaker role, one of them will need to be on the pitch at any given minute

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1van Sprou7e View Post
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    McGregor and Gilmour are good in the deep lying playmaker role, one of them will need to be on the pitch at any given minute
    Definitely.

    McGregor has had a few poor games for Scotland, but he's the only midfielder we have with the agility to play on the half turn in tight spaces, and the composure to always retain the ball under a high press. McTominay has the latter, but turns very slowly making him unsuited to being the primary out-ball for the defense. McGinn can play well on the half turn, but isn't really suited to being the midfielder who sits deep, recycling the ball and setting the tempo. Gilmour will take over this role soon, but is probably not ready to be a starter at the euros yet.

    The game recently where McGinn and McTominay were the two deeper midfielders, our ball progression through the midfield when in transition was terrible and we resorted to punting it long to Dykes even more than usual. Both are best as box to box 8s: doing a lot of running, pressing high and receiving the ball already facing play, higher up the pitch. They don't work that well in a double pivot together imo, and when McGregor doesn't play, our already poor ball retention and possession build up is even worse than usual.

    McTominay and McGinn have both been very effective for Scotland at centre back and at number 10 respectively, so having one of them next to McGregor and the other playing out of position is the way to go I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calidad View Post
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    Does anyone like Turnbull?
    I think heís class. Not sure Clark will start him but he has Scott Allans eye for a pass plus a good engine.

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    He looks a prospect, but not the head turner that Gilmour has been, so not yet there enough to be considered for starting 11

    He was at fault for Holland first goal.
    Gilmour was a head turner playing as the extra man against 10 player minnows.
    He looked good but with no pressure on the ball so it wasn't a test to base anything on.
    His time will come but now is a little early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    The problem with Patterson is that I donít think heís ever been tested defensively.

    OíDonnell looks like a big huddy but heís never let Scotland down. Patterson hasnít played much first team football at all, looks like a. Decent prospect but Iím not sure Iíd play him.
    The times he was tested last night he looked like he was running backwards against their forwards. Looked fine with the ball at his feet running forward but suspect defending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    The times he was tested last night he looked like he was running backwards against their forwards. Looked fine with the ball at his feet running forward but suspect defending.
    To be fair to him, donít think heís played for 5/6 weeks
    My Rangers supporting friend, thinks heíll play a wee bit further forward than Tavernier next season

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    Iíd like

    Marshall
    Cooper-Hanley Tierney
    Patterson-McTominay-Gilmour-Robertson
    McGinn
    Adams-Armstrong

    The team I think Clarke will play:

    Marshall
    Hendry-Hanley-Tierney
    O'Donnel-McTominay-McGregor-Robertson
    McGinn
    Dykes-Christie

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    Gilmour was a head turner playing as the extra man against 10 player minnows.
    He looked good but with no pressure on the ball so it wasn't a test to base anything on.
    His time will come but now is a little early.
    Gilmour was only on for half an hour but was still the best player on the park. He's a brilliant talent, and I'd love to see him playing in the Euros.

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    Can't see McKenna starting. Reckon he's probably last in the CB pecking order.
    Agreed.

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    Marshall

    Hendry
    Gallagher
    Tierney

    Forrest/fraser
    Armstrong
    Mctominay
    Mcginn
    Robertson

    Dykes
    Adams

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    Like to see....

    Marshall

    Hendry
    Cooper
    Tierney

    Forrest
    McGinn
    McGregor
    McTominay
    Robertson

    Fraser

    Adams

    Be happy with this

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    I think Gilmour must be utilised at the Euros. He plays for a massive team in Chelsea so no worries in being over phased. I suspect Clarke may fall into the old trap of formerly cautious Scots' managers though and not play him. Even Southgate seems to be reluctant to play Grealish for England...remember Glen Hoddle?!

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    I would take a chance on starting Nisbet. In the two friendlies he's shown that he is the calmest in front of goals of the three and the way he played Turnbull in shows he has the quick feet needed at that level.Hopefully Adams and Dykes have got the misses out of their systems .If the ground is fast Dykes looks out of his depth because he doesn't have the ball control.
    Gilmour should also start. I thought against Holland McGregor was constantly caught in possession and looked as if he'd played too much football.As an oldie Gilmour reminded me of Bobby Johnstone in the way that,without being quick, he was always in space and away from opponents.

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