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Having just watched the excellent, and intelligent, Get the Edge interview, (see the Videos thread), I think we're going to see a lot of Josh Campbell this season.
I think he's exactly the type of player NM wants in his teams, high energy, great fitness and total commitment, and I think Josh will come on in leaps and bounds.
I don't remember seeing NM as a player, but from his remarks, Josh and him sound like peas in a pod.
If Montgomery plays 4-4-2, it would be criminal to have Campbell as one of the two in CM. If we want to improve, having Campbell as a starter won’t see us do that
100% agree. Mo farah can run for miles & so can Usain Bolt they both however are also colin nish at football like Campbell.Quote:
Originally Posted by S4uzee
If we are to play a 4-4-2 it's Levitt and Newell in the middle all day for me.
Absolutely. I'd run for miles and miles in a Hibs strip, wouldn't make up for my glaring technical deficencies with a ball at my feet - the same applies to Campbell (until we play Aberdeen, he can start then)Quote:
Originally Posted by S4uzee
:agree: In a 4-4-2, the middle midfielders need to be able to control the ball well and pass the ball well, Campbell at the moment does neither.Quote:
Originally Posted by S4uzee
We'd be weak in midfield if he was one of a 4 in my opinion.
Montgomery was a box to box grafter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Don't really disagree re Josh better suited not to two in the middle however he is a regular top league performer and is a good player for us. Harsh asQuote:
Originally Posted by CowgateHarp1875
Each to their own mate. I just think we have players who are better technically in the middle than him and we should use them.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Has looked off it this season so far but has still chipped in with 3:9 goals
Need to put a line through his poor performance versus St Mirren and put it down to carrying an injury
Everyone starts with a clean slate and hopefully Monty can get him back on track firing on all cylinders
Still think there is a player in there
I agree with this post but not your earlier one saying Campbell is pish at football.Quote:
Originally Posted by CowgateHarp1875
We do but they don't score many or create that many either. It all depends on how Montgomery wants to set up and Josh will be an important part of the squad whatever formation and style if chosen purely for his energy, gola involvements and commitmentQuote:
Originally Posted by CowgateHarp1875
Newell and Levitt did put in an excellent performance together vs Luzern as a two, I do understand it was a bigger occasion than say Ross county at home for an example.
Nah, Monty scored 9 goals in 12 seasons. Midfield grafter, sort of upgrade on Brian Hamilton type. Not a goalscorer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
A lot of work to be done on Josh, touch and speed of moving the ball not good enough yet.
The modern day Brian Hamilton ?
Disagree tbh , there's certain games I'd certainly play Campbell in a 4-4-2 in , like at home against a team sitting in against us . Josh Campbell is still our best chance of a goal from Midfield. I certainly have him in before JDH tbh .Quote:
Originally Posted by S4uzee
I meant the work ethic and commitment. Neither NM or Josh are the most technically skillled of players, but both will pull up trees for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
That's a valuable asset.
Not for me, at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
When we’re up against a team sitting in, I’m looking for midfielders to create something. Campbell never creates anything.
I’d use Campbell against Rangers and Celtc. He’s a worker, great engine.
If we’re to play 442 from the start of games and do it justice, we’re going to need one, possibly 2 new central midfielders.
We’ll get murdered trying that with our current crop.
It may be that NM will want to play that way eventually but if he’s going to last long enough to get his own players in then he’s going to have to be fairly pragmatic - and realise it’s not happening straight away.
That’s how I see it too. For this season, with the players he has it’s 451/433. Jeggo, Newell & Levitt furthest forward IMO. Boyle, Youan & Vente. We also have two defensive, and limited, full backs in Stevenson & Miller who would likely imbalance a 442 as well IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
I don’t think Campbell is good enough to be a central midfielder. I think all his best work has been playing in an advanced role and got into dangerous positions well.Quote:
Originally Posted by S4uzee
IMO Campbell is better suited to playing as a number 10 off another front man, if he’s to make it under NM it’ll be in that position I think.
That's the beauty of us all having our own opinions mate 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by WeeRussell
If we're playing with two strikers and Youan and Boyle down the wings I'm not really fussed about our centre mids goal contributions to be honest. That's more than enough fire power to destroy most teams in this league. If it is to be 2 in the middle I want my two to be able to play make and create opportunities for our attackers.Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
It'll be interesting to see how Montgomery has us lined up on Saturday.
I was previously a big defender of Campbell and really thought he was coming on to a game last season which delighted me. Unfortunately, I’m now extremely frustrated with his performances, and I don’t think he offers anywhere near as much as he should be especially when the going is tough.
I don’t expect all midfielders to be able to take the game by the scruff of the neck but I like to see guys show the sort of bravery that Jeggo has done in the last couple of weeks and try and do what they can to make an impact. To me JC is doing a lot of running but not really getting close to anyone and his use of the ball is pretty conservative considering he does have the ability to ping the ball around when things are going well. Could also do with a little less theatrics and arm waving.
Different managers can get different things from players, that’s the beauty of management.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrekko
Josh really seems to divide opinion at the best of times but I think those writing him off are doing him a bit of a disservice.
The OP is spot on in my opinion, I think Josh has a number of attributes that will be right up NM’s street and it will be interesting to see if and how he uses him over the season.
He was one of our biggest goal threats last season and has shown at times he still is this season, I would back him to hit double digits again in all comps if he plays enough. He's a good player with some limitations (he's not as technical as Newell and Levitt) but he can press and play in the final third like they two can. Delighted to have him as an option at the club.
I certainly wasn't writing him off as I also believe he has a lot of ability and many potential attributes. Just think he has had a longish run of not showing enough if what he has.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
I is very sure that our new manager will get the best out of all our players, the ones that cannot reach what he wants in performance will move on, simples.
IMO Josh looks knackered from the very first few minutes after kick-off. I'm not fully convinced that he's actually 100% fit, but is being played because we've very few alternatives. As has been mentioned before, we don't have that many options in midfield and he's in a minority of one when it comes to goal threat. I'd keep him out of the team until he's back to full fitness, as without his energy he's not really contributing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrekko
Good player IMO.
Campbell is absolutely fine. A good squad player who will continue to have plenty of minutes under this manager.
I said I agreed wouldn't play him in a two just found your criticism a little ottQuote:
Originally Posted by CowgateHarp1875