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Apparently really chaotic in Paris as Fans celebrated PSG's win in the Champions League Final, with nearly 500 arrests and hundreds injured.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...league-victory
(the article mentions 2 dead, but not 100% sure if they were actually linked to the 'celebrations')
EDIT: Apologies, I just noticed this has been mentioned in another thread.
Going by some reports,they were looting shops when the game was in play.
Yeah, absolutely nothing to do with football.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsboy07
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Originally Posted by babahibs
Yeah, just been reading some updated reports and a lot of what went on looks like they were happy for any excuse just to go on the rampage.
Seems to be a theme in France.
There were also riots after the 2018 and 2022 world cup finals
And there were issues at the Liverpool CL final in Paris a few years ago with locals attacking fansQuote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
Paris has went to the dogs, an absolute ****hole. Such a shame as I used to love visiting.
Not sure it was anything to do with celebrating PSG victory to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Oh dear. I'm going there on Friday.Quote:
Originally Posted by AugustaHibs
You might get a bargain or two at a fire sale!:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
One of the PSG players asked post match for no silliness or violence in Paris, which I thought was a really strange thing to request.
Not so strange afterall.
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Originally Posted by linlithgowhibbie
Went regularly for the rugby, but as you say its a 5hithole now. Muggers and pickpockets everywhere and a nightmare at night. Pimps and drug dealers all over the place. City has gone to the dogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by AugustaHibs
I went last November and enjoyed myself. Stayed in the Marais area and was very happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
There’s a bakery called The French *******s (barstewards, in its swear filter dodging format) that do an outstanding caramel eclair. Good steak and steak tartare at L’Aller Retour Marais as well but booking recommended.
If you’ve not booked it already, I wouldn’t go up the Eiffel Tower. Very expensive, crowded, and queued nearly two hours to get back down.
I was there 3 weekends ago, first time since 2009, and it has regressed in appeal terribly.Quote:
Originally Posted by AugustaHibs
On the surface it is still beautiful, but there is an undercurrent of unease in parts.
I had no idea that the Eiffel Tower is effectively closed off for a wide perimeter with Perspex anti terrorist fences, there is no point going anywhere near it unless you have a ticket to go up the tower, the surrounding area is filled with hundreds of disheveled looking trinket sellers with identical crap. The tower still looks beautiful from over the river on the Trocadéro side though.
Have had the very same eclair from the very same place. Can second that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
I’ve been to Paris twice the last couple of years. Never had any trouble, never felt unsafe.
Would prioritise the Museum d’Orsay over the Louvre and would only go to the Pompidou if you’re into modern art (which I very much am).Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Worth searching the Michelin Bib Gourmaund guide for fancy French meals at a reasonable price. I forget the name of the place but had outstanding slow cooked beef with braised parsnip somewhere followed by a pear, honey, and goats cheese dessert for a very reasonable price.
Would defo return to Paris. Pickpocketing is on the up in most cities so always weary wherever I go now.
Not been since 2007 with Scotland and McFadden.
What a day! What a night!
Edit- Tell a lie. Stopped off near Gare de Lyon in 2023 at the Rugby World Cup before jumping on the TGV to Marseilles.
Now that is a sketchy city. My cousin got his sporran ripped off him lost his wallet and phone.
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Dump. Been a couple of times, most recently about 10 years ago. Wouldn't return in a hurry.
Flew to Paris for the Euro's last year and got the train from Gard de l'Est to Augsburg before the Germany game. Felt a bit uncomfortable around the station area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
I go to Marseille at least once a year and cant wait to go back. Fantastic place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Opinions…so strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by AugustaHibs
Have been spending a lot of time over there recently. It’s a beautiful magical place, where people still take the time to relax and engagement each other and life. It makes London look like an uptight third world slum full of manic depressives.
Fair enough, in no rush to return to London either these days… probably best left to another thread though 🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
I've never liked Paris. Just never done it for me at all.
I love France in general. Spent time in Marseilles, Montpellier, Nice and Antibes and loved them all but Paris just left me cold. Must be a north v south thing.
Also been to Marseille and loved that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Was warned by a French person I know before I went to be careful but never felt unsafe there either. Maybe I’m just oblivious to danger :greengrin
Paris, London, The Beatles. It becomes almost fashionable to knock them all despite all three being justifiably iconic.
I visited a fair few French coastal cities during my time at sea and Paris as a tourist. Hugely different places and loved them all. Vive la différence. :greengrin
Beauvais is a lovely place.
It really isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by AugustaHibs
I have been many times over the years, last time stayed up near Folie Bergere in a very reasonable apartment.
Lots of lovely wee bars and restaurants, you can do the tourist thing or just chill out.
Like anywhere, it has good and bad points.
Or as Ryan Air calls it, Paris Beauvais. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
'Frankfurt' Hahn is my favourite for that. Located almost as close to Liege and Luxembourg as it is to Frankfurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Where it snowed early in the season most years, and at its worst it had 6 feet snowbanks along the road as the road was always cleared within seconds of the snow landing, but the bus made it into Frankfurt regardless of the weather, and it always waited on the plane landing no matter how late the plane was, which it often was very late, especially the late night one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Only port I didn't get off the cruise for out of a a dozen or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Been going to Paris every other year since 1999 for the Rugby.
As others have said, vast areas are now a complete hell hole. Filthy, crime ridden, and uncomfortable to be in. It’s a real shame. We all know why it’s happened and is happening to many major cities in Europe to varying degrees, but saying it gets you branded as some form of ‘phobe’.
Indeed. Far-right extremist groups are a real problem in much of the world right now sadly. But we should be brave and call it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
I definitely have become a touristphobe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
These days...Quote:
Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee
What is it that we all know?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
Been to Paris lots and know it well. It's a fantastic city. Reports of its decline greatly exaggerated I think. Has some dodgy areas but what city doesn't. Unless you're hanging around the banlieues there isn't much to be overly worried about.
Yeah it’s the far right pick pocketing, ****ting in the street, hanging around in gangs of men, looting and rioting etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee
Keep calling them out 👍
You forgot setting buildings on fire with women and children inside, but I'm glad we've found common ground. :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
When did that happen in Paris bud?Quote:
Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee
It would be a lot more brave, honest and open of you if you just said what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
What does this thread have to do with football?
If people want to discuss this type of stuff keep it to other sites or at least the Holy Ground.
My multinational family are absolutely **** scared of a particular kind of rioter and it isn't the ones you're alluding to. But you knew that already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
You're bio says you're 33. If so in 99 you'd be 6 or 7. Le Pen and his cronies were decrying the lack of 'French' in that 98 World Cup squad. Paris hasn't changed much since 1999 in terms of demographic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
Hahah what???Quote:
Originally Posted by SHODAN
Do you think I’m here to defend far right rioting? What has this got to do with Paris and why it’s such a dump?
Admittedly I’ve not been to the city for 10+ years - but given the trend right across Europe, I would be stunned if that’s true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baader
Well this is a bit of serendipity. A chance to try something out.
We have recently reopened the Holy Ground to all users rather than just PMs and I think this thread definitely belongs in there now.
There's a warning in there from one of the team about playing nice so try and do just that.
A dump? Sounds like you didn't make it further south than the Stade de France! Interested to hear what 'vast areas' you think are complete 'hell holes' as I'll have been to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
I've been to Paris 3 times and won't be back. Went twice for football and had a great time. Last time went with my wife and totally different story. Dodgy as and definitely unsafe in parts at night. Also the only place I've suffered direct rasicm as a white guy despite being in some dodgy places around the world.
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Originally Posted by Baader
I’ve stayed all over Paris. It’s not any more ‘unsafe’ or ‘scary’ than any other huge city imo.
Not been there in years - it was either when I was still a student or not long started working - so roughly 20+ years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
The airport was basically a collection of sheds and tents/marquees. Is it still the same?
Could have been written about Edinburgh regarding our founders 150 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
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It is indeed. Have walked from the train station in Beauvais to the Airport before. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
Yep exactly the same. Lazy strange religion dirty big families criminalQuote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Oh, another recommendation for food. I’m a bit of a burger nerd - McDonalds and Burger King ruined the perception of what a burger should be over many decades, but I usually find one independent burger place on my travels to try it out.
Sold Out Burger in the Marais area is the best burger I’ve had - incredibly simple too. Toasted milk bun, smashed patties cooked slightly pink, cheddar, red onion, lactofermented pickles that they make themselves, and house sauce.
It’s very Parisian to my taste - a really simple classic recipe but every single thing on it was perfect. Very beefy tasting and exceptionally cooked and prepared.
Incidentally, El Perro Negro in Edinburgh and Glasgow is second for me. Their Top Dog burger is excellent.
Really enjoy El Perro Negro, I think Bread Meats Bread fell off a cliff in quality 5 years ago. I also don't mind a mcds cheese burger whilst waiting for the bairn to eat. It's pretty rubbish but worth the priceQuote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee