A decent player but with injuries hampering his career he’d a touch of the Kyle McG two about him.
Should have no difficulty in finding another club, hope it’s not in the SPL as if he could get/stay fit he could come back to haunt us.
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A decent player but with injuries hampering his career he’d a touch of the Kyle McG two about him.
Should have no difficulty in finding another club, hope it’s not in the SPL as if he could get/stay fit he could come back to haunt us.
I wouldn't worry.
He'll be injured mostly.
I’ve never been less concerned of a player coming back to haunt us.
Desperately average at best imo. Throw in the fact he’s made of glass and I’ve little doubt he’ll be in the lower leagues soon enough.
Coming out of Easter Road one afternoon my dad said that JDH was "the least adventurous player he had ever seen in a hibs shirt". Summed it up very nicely as far as I'm concerned.
I wish him well for the future, but never good enough for hibs.
He was on a decent wage, he was a average performer for an average team. He is one ill do a Google search in five years to see where he ended up.
I wish him well but the only time I can recall him being more than a baw hair above average was at home to St Mirren once when he scored two lovely goals. Apparently a bunch of his pals had come over from Ireland for the game and struck me that if the club had paid for them to come across for every match it would have been money well spent!
Seriously though - injuries hampered him but he never looked like being an outstanding performer on anything like a regular enough basis. Quite happy he's left to make room on the wage bill for someone else.
You can remember it so well you can't even remember it was Ross county.Quote:
Originally Posted by basehibby
Apparently suing Hibs in the court of session.
If true, presumably for the injury he suffered at the hands of LJ?
https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/court-rolls/court-of-session-rolls/callings/28-may-2025/
Interesting.
JDH was one of the first team player that LJ had training separately from the main group too, I wonder if his treatment is a component of the case.
Yet picked up a decent wage while injuredQuote:
Originally Posted by Alex Trager
Saw him playing for Sligo a couple of weeks ago. He didn't do very much.
Did you expect him not to get paid? He's the good guy here.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
Wonder what his case is based on. Players get injured all the time
Not by their own managersQuote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
If JDH can argue his career been impacted by LJ having no reason to be in that situation, fair enough to the guy
Intersting to find out what it’s based on
It can’t be getting injured as that’s part and parcel of football. Unless it’s a Stephen Thomson v John McGinn scenario
The care afterwards?
As long as the injury wasn’t deliberate or reckless I’d be surprised if he had much of a case? Especially given we rightly continued paying him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Trager
Smacks of a poor player knowing he’s been found out and his ability to earn much is behind him now.
It’s upto a manager whether he takes part in training, there’s nothing to say players only train against other first teams players etcQuote:
Originally Posted by ElginHibbie
Loads of managers join in
Smacks of a dick of a manager with a napoleon complex sliding in on players returning from injury during a bounce game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Still displayed on the big screen at ER when the No 8 player is displayed, he appeared as one of the subs coming on at the Rangers game, pretty amateurish from Hibs.
If I had to defend Lee Johnson (loathe to) for a moment, do we know that he slid into JDH? Managers get involved in training and coaches fill in spaces in drills or bounce games all the time. It could be a freak accident or even JDH himself that went in on Johnson and came off worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
Whatever the suit is for I'm sure he has a case, and hopefully the right outcome is found.
Can't blame LJ. It's what sharks doQuote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
JDH has also said himself that wasn’t the cause of the injury. That was just one flare up of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Another repeated fact….
He got awfully upset at some Hibs fans in the West Stand lower when he was coming back from a warm-up just before he left - absolutely booted a water carrier and stormed off. A bit like Bojang - an incredibly limited footballer who couldn’t handle his dream not becoming a reality, although in his case injuries played a part.
Would assume every coach at any level is likely to have joined a session at some point whether to even up numbers if players injured etc. Surely he would need to prove intent to injure or significant negligence.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElginHibbie
Taking hibs to court for something an ex employee did, sue LJ if this is what its all about.
F*** them both.
If his pals turn up for the hearing he might have a chance of winning
Where can you see details of the case?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16
Tend to agree unless a big part of it is some negligence in his injury treatment by the clubQuote:
Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16
Tbf nobody knows the details. It may have nothing to do with LJ. But you don’t take your employer to court for no reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16
Would be very unusual of employees to testify against their employerQuote:
Originally Posted by I'm_cabbaged
Shudda built in a NDA with his pay off
Who knew ?
Hopefully he loses and has to pay all the costsQuote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
Didn’t even touch the ball when he came on as well. Usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee
I think he was referring to his pals in the stands. Remember he scored a couple of beauties against Ross County when his mates were watching?Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
:thumbsup::top marksQuote:
Originally Posted by I'm_cabbaged
No one has a clue what's going through the court.
If he's suing, the club might well be in the wrong and Thompsons clearly think he has a case.
How good a footballer he is/was is irrelevant.
Tongue in cheek 😀Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
When he scored a cracking brace against RC, a squad of his pals had come over from Ireland
Why would we neglect the guy during injury would be my question.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
We've had countless guys in sides over the years with long term injuries/health scares who we've looked after with nothing but the best care available to them.
If its down to what happened to him with LJ then so be it, managers take part in training all the time, I doubt LJ went into the challenge in his head thinking "yes lets injure one of my players".
I suppose it's entirely possible Hibs just weren't a very good employer for a while. The Bojang stuff didn't read well even if some of it did seem to be misunderstanding rather than malice. Some kind of player care or liaison there might have helped....
Then we had people behind the scenes leaving under a bit of a cloud, some of whom had been stalwarts at the club and would be loathe to speak ill of it but came pretty close to.
Of course it's easy to argue the player who didn't contribute much on the park is wrong and that may well be the case but with little to go on it's just as possible the opposite is true.
Thankfully things seems a lot better now and it's really a legacy issue which doesn't reflect the current situation.
Where did I say he shouldn't get paid, he was injured and we paid him well while being injured, most players move on with their careers when things don't work out. We don't know what his gripe is but is this all really necessary?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
It’s clearly necessary otherwise why would he go with a court case. Could end up with a pretty hefty bill at the end of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
As someone says above, no one knows what is going through the courts, we are unsure if it's personal of professional issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
Ive heard he is suing due to unpaid wages while injured.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
Well that would be rather amusing. Must be bonus related, unless they put him on basic sick pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSheep
No idea what the case is about, so it's all supposition at this point ..... but:
If this is a case based on an injury in training that wasn't a Thomson v McGinn situation, but simply injury in a normal challenge ( even if it was from the manager ) that happens in training all the time at every club. If JDH or any player for that matter was to win such a case clubs could be looking at a Bosman type situation where one player changes the whole fabric of the game, in this case how players train.
IMO he would have to prove there was malice in the challenge and have other players who were present at the time to back him up in court. Once again that's something that does happen in training when players have issues with each other.
If it's claiming the club were negligent in his welfare it's hard to say what that would be based on. I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have had exactly the same consideration vis a vis physiotherapy and medical treatment as any other player. In the end players are assets you can make money from, especially when he cost nothing in the first place, so why on earth would Hibs not do everything they could to ensure he was taken care of.
If it's just because he was excluded from first team training when he considered himself fit, that's another thing that happens at every club. If he was to win such a case citing mental stress or unfair treatment by the club, then as in the first scenario clubs would have to prepare themselves for an avalanche of lawsuits from disaffected players.
This will be interesting ....... though hopefully not costly for Hibs :confused:
As with many of these cases, it will probably be settled out of court.
The fact that it has been called for hearing suggests to me that any negotiations between JDH and the club haven't brought about a satisfactory outcome. Bringing it to Court is probably a bargaining move, and will concentrate the minds of both sides. Neither will want it to go that far.
It's a personal injury matter so won't be that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSheep
What a silly comment. Since when did injured players not get their contracted wage?Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
The Lee Johnson training ground tackle was described as a 50-50 challenge. The problem was a piece of floating bone in Jake's ankle from a previous injury. It will be interesting to find out what this case is all about. I wish Jake well. I really enjoyed the good game he had for us.
I thought Tracey Smith (ex Fans Rep) took up that role?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Possibly after that event but thought it was before or around that time.
We should have this in place and we have a big Hibernian family should be big enough to help integrate in…
She was but left a few years ago now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva_Palmeiras
Amazing how you've managed to assume something that was never mentioned, the point being was that he was well paid even when injured, so what is his gripe with the club?Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
I don’t know Jake Doyle Hayes personally, but watching him play for hibs and his body language on the park it felt clear to me he wasn’t going to make the grade. A stroppy player with very little consistency , and he certainly wasn’t at a level to be pulling on a hibs shirt, I also think he knew this hence why he spent best part part of two seasons “injured” miraculously being available for Villa and Europe, can anybody remember how bad he was against inter club de’escaldes? Awful stuff diving in to tackles aggressively if as almost trying to get sent off. Shocking display.
Whilst the ins and outs of his injury will never be fully disclosed nothing will convince me this situation isn’t just sour grapes by a bang average footballer who simply failed to make an impact but gladly earned a wage for doing very little, a subsequent impact being having to drop to a level such as league of ireland. I’d also add that a new club signed him assuming with a medical pass certificate so that kind of leaves me baffled what indeed he could sue the club for.
If it’s for unpaid wages, maybe the medical team was passing him fit for selection and he was claiming he was still injured. Who knows.
The overall squad morale has significantly improved, maybe as a result of letting unhappy players leave, surely not a coincidence?
Again this is where I’d praise Malky Mackay, identifying and fixing the pool of players we had to get us performing as a team a club and as an employer.
That's possibly the finest example of 'damning with faint praise' I've ever seen :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumble de Thump
Never rated him as a player at Hibs, and one of the low-points of the last few years (for me) was when Maloney was in charge and we got pumped away at Dundee. That night they had fat Charlie Adam shouting in JDH's face and he's too scared to even look at him, never mind battle him in midfield. It was pathetic.
That aside, nobody really knows what this court case is in relation to. Yeah, he picked up a fair wage while injured at Hibs, but he's absolutely entitled to do that, we offered him the deal. If Hibs are in the wrong then he's got every right to pursue whatever he wants through the courts.
I'd imagine it'll get settled before it makes it to trial though.
He really was a believable player for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE
She was in the role and was very much valued by managers, players and their families. I don't think she was ever adequately replaced which was my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva_Palmeiras
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Stoppable on his day. Done the thinkable.
Think those two beauties were the highlight of his Hibs career.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Depending on the type of case it’s not like that any more I’m afraid ☹️Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster
Rotten player, bright side told us he was the best number 8 in Scotland, in reality he was utter pish just like Kenneh.
Struck confidence in the opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
The streets will forget.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16
A real magician in midfield…could disappear in a flash.
You could absolutely make a case for negligence for the injury. Lee Johnson has no place taking part in training sessions, even if he really, really wanted to. His participation puts others at risk because he has neither the fitness nor the physical skills and technique to safely play alongside professional footballers.
Putting him in increases the chances of a bad tackle/challenge significantly and puts player safety at risk.
I don’t think he’ll be suing for the challenge, though - I suspect it will be related to his subsequent treatment and recovery.
His skills were absolutely from this world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Guys you would want in the trenches with you:
John McGinn
Jack Iredale
Darren McGregor
David Gray
Grant Holt
The Caddens
Selfless, team players
Guy you would never want in the trenches with you:
Jake Doyle Hayes...
Thought this was another ex player we were wanting back when I saw the thread. JDH and Omeonga pulling the strings in midfield with Oli Shaw banging them in up front. Big Dabrowski with the safe pair of hands in goal.
Gordon Hunter in the first lot too - a one man battalion :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Dirk pornstar Lehman
Wasn’t there a note in the accounts about some funds that had been ring fenced due to a legal dispute?
Can't see one.Quote:
Originally Posted by 18Craig75
Rangers have that permanently :greengrin
Managers and coaches get involved in training all the time. Don’t see the issueQuote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Don’t cry because it happened, smile because it’s over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16
Hilarious comments. :rolleyes:
Agree. Complete nonsense that there would be any way that could arise in a claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees
I’ll add Rocky and Campbell to that list as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
A fair few conclusions being jumped to and ultimately we don’t know right now.
If those theorising that it’s his Injury it would potentially set a very difficult precedent. Where do you draw the line?
Any injury caused by a reckless tackle in a game, especially one where a red card is shown therefore wrongdoing implied.
Any injury in training caused by a teammate or coach.
Being returned to football too soon after an injury causing a flare up.
What separates LJs challenge from the above?
Gordon Rae, Shades, Mixu, Matty J etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
There have been loads.
He knows his career is over already and is looking for one last payday. He stole a wage from us for long enough, so I hope he doesn't get a penny more from us.
Definitely one of the Hibs players of all time.
Hibs class this thread. Disgraceful.
BlimeyQuote:
Originally Posted by Big_Franck
Then why mention it at all? I don’t think there’s anyone on this board that would expect the club to not honour a contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
I think there are precedents already. One famous one close to home was Jim Brown and John Pelosi. All depends on the nature of the challenge presumably.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Jim sued Pelosi, not his club.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
They settled out of Court, which is how I expect this one to go.
Lots if, ayes and maybes on this.
I kind of hope it goes to court so we find out what he is moaning about.
If it throws light on some things where Hibs may not have acted in his best interests, then so be it. Or if JDH is talking p*sh then run him out of town.
Ah I’m sure he’ll survive, much like LJ will survive your comments about him being a dick of a manager :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
You could take your eyes off him.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHODAN
AlfQuote:
Originally Posted by tamig
Matty JackQuote:
Originally Posted by WoreTheGreen
We honoured his contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
He agreed to sign a new one. He didn’t have to.
Did we not eventually end up in court with Brian Welsh over something that sounded similar?
Wasn’t all that long ago considering it was a while since he played for us.
From Wiki:-Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Welsh began legal proceedings against Malcolm Morrison, who was employed as Hibernian club doctor during his time with the club, in 2008.[2] He claimed that an injection administered by Morrison had ruined his career,[2] and an out-of-court settlement for a "substantial sum" was reached.[2]
More here. It was the doctor he sued, rather than the club:-
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...h-lands-975782
Because some were mentioning it may be to do with his injury, which I was pointing out he was still well paid while being injured, if he is in fact trying to sue us for said injury, he has a cheek as a pro footballer. Still don't see how you can't grasp that concept.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
He was issued with an ultimatum sign off the second year of the contract we offered you or you will not play for this club againQuote:
Originally Posted by easty
He signed it from a footballing point of view after speaking to his agent and went on to make 30 appearances that season scoring 5 goals
He was sent to Coventry by the bosses ( Kensall and Gordon) through no fault of his own and is still waiting on an explanation
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...-hibs-33216716
The most worrying part of that whole article given there is an ongoing court case involving a player who was perennially injured is that there seems to have been a major **** up in diagnosing and injury with ALF.Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
Ok cheersQuote:
Originally Posted by I'm_cabbaged
New contract suited all parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
If he didn’t sign it, we’d have lost out on playing him, and he’d have lost out by playing no football.
We didn’t want to be lumbered with him a second season, so a new contract was offered and signed.
He went on to play non-league after leaving. Which shows how good a decision that new contract was from our end.
Smacks of ageism but I suppose he was two years older than Gayle and Hoilett when they made their debutsQuote:
Originally Posted by easty
Leaves a bad taste
We should really try and stick to our end of the bargain wherever possible and I dare say we will probably never find out what JDH’s issue is ( I liked him ) ?
Ian Gordon can add it to his learning curve as he really seems to have matured over the past two seasons
Now who agreed to sign a 17 year old for 110k and released him for diddly squat today ? :greengrin