According to the Sun. £1.5m apparently
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...arsenal-leeds/
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According to the Sun. £1.5m apparently
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...arsenal-leeds/
They do realise he's on a four year contract? 1.5 million haha. Insulting.
Why on earth are these kind of stories even printed at this point?
The window doesnt open for weeks...............
and, agree the poster above - we need him more than we need £1.5m at the moment
How much is Harry Cochrane worth these days :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Eh, it’s The Sun?Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
The only surprising thing about it is that it’s not Rangers he’s linked with, given we play them this week.
There's still time! "EXCLUSIVE! Rangers winning bidding war for Hibs star!" :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Heckys Wheel
I don’t think £1.5m with some really good add ons is as ridiculous as some are suggesting. I think we will get a bit more but it’ll be that ball park.
Fwiw I can see a lot of huge clubs being linked with him but then him going to a smaller one where he has a chance of game time. Similar to Hickey going to Bologna when there was talk of him going to Bayern and AC Milan.
He’s had a taste of first team football now, does he really want to go back to playing development football for a huge club?
I think you're right to be honest. What I would like to see is him coming back to us on loan for another season so he can continue to develop. How many times have we seen young scottish players go down south and then reappear years later with it not having worked. He needs a bit more time playing week in week out first team footballQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
The Sun are often very accurate with Hibs stories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heckys Wheel
If he's linked with Rangers before the weekend (and it wouldn't surprise me) it is more likely to be in the Daily Record.
I don't think it's ridiculous either.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
He's not even 19 yet and hasn't even reached 30 appearances for us.
History tells you that's not too far away from what young Scottish players often sell for. There's similarities there with Aaron Hickey and it's believed he was sold for roughly that amount.
We may get around £2 million for him just now but I would be surprised if it was much more than that.
perhaps, but recent history would suggest that we would be unlikely to be interested in selling at that price. He has a full season of games behind him, and every chance of a decent amount of European football ahead of him. Hibs are far more likely to turn down offers for him at the end of the season and in a years time, if he is still improving and has successfully played European football, he’ll be worth 4-6m. Hibs have no reason to sell at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
He’s also not played in front of any fans yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
First of all, has that maybe helped him relax? How will he cope in front of thousands of fans? Might skoosh it but the pressure could get to him, nobody knows yet.
Secondly, he’s just had a season playing in front of no fans, I’m sure now he’s got a taste of first team football he’ll be desperate to play in front of big crowds next season. Joining a Leicester or Man City I’d say he’s got no chance.
In a completely random made up guess I could see him going to someone like Norwich, Swansea, West Brom...... someone around that sort of level where he’d get a good pay rise, high profile but also have a chance if first team football.
Think he needs another couple of seasons with us. Seems to have his head screwed on and won't move yet. Very young to be be moving to another country and culture.
Another culture is maybe stretching it a bit, no? 😀Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
He may also get one opportunity at getting a move like this. You never know what’s round the corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
He’d be better served staying with us for a couple of years and moving on after 60+ games, as would we.
To soon to go IMO ,maybe the end of next season if he continues to go the way he has so far
Quite surprised some on here would accept £1.5m when the lads just signed a new contract. That would be mental.
I’ve said this repeatedly but we need to start overvaluing our assets because teams down south will pay it.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
I suspect in the future he will have plenty of opportunities for a move like this one, except they will be real opportunities, rather than just daft paper talk several months before the transfer window opens.
Restricting my take on Doig to reality, I predict he won’t be going anywhere, especially not for £1.5 million. He’s going to be at Hibs for at least another season.
Would we get enough from Doig, Nisbet, and Porteous to fill in a corner or 2? :dunno:
One more season would be great. But he has everything that top clubs are looking for right now.
Formulaic BS. And our next opponents are...Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Think we should be saying to any potential suitors that the minimum sell on fee we'll accept is 25% of all future transfer revenue and then open a bidding war for the fee after that.
He's a talented laddie and is going to go a long way in the game, if he is going to leave then Leicester (with a potential loan back to us next season) would be a great move. A really good, well run team.
Was Hickey not in the final year of his contract?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Doug has much longer left and we should be holding out for much more. British players will demand a premium now with work permits required following Brexit. A lot of these clubs are signing potential rather than the finished article. Physically he fits the bill as well.
I think we should hold out for a lot more with add ons.
Window does not matter. Its a registration window. He could sign for them to tomorrow but he'd remain at hibs until they could register him in summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
He's our first choice left back at 18. The boy is a major talent. We shouldn't be accepting 1.5 million from an EPL club. Especially when he has four years left on his contract. I expect us to sell him but considering we just turned down 3 million for Nisbet the bar has been set. There should also be a huge add on of future transfers. Look at how Andy Robertson and Tierney have flourished down there. Hibs should be using those examples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Looks like the Premiership clubs are all looking to the Scottish market for their own Tierney or Robertson!
1.5m 😂😂😂😂
And so it begins. A transfer rumour about one of our players makes the papers and Hibs fans queue up to finalise the deal.
Let the lad play. He’s just starting out.
We all know by now that Hibs is a good place for young players to develop, and if they don’t rush it they can earn a very good move.
I hope and expect Josh to be our player next season.
I still think we missed a huge opportunity to get £3m for Nisbet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
If we or the old firm win the cup, his goals will have earned us that anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by H18 SFR
I have the upmost trust and confidence in the club. If the deal isn't worth it to Hibs, Hibs wont sell. They have proved that time and again. More relaxed about outgoing transfers than I've ever been. We're in good hands. Doesn't matter what any media source says.
John and I were talking about this (not the bid specifically. but Doig and others moving on) and this kind of move is exactly what Hibs' model is at the moment. Whether £1.5m is the point we'd want to sell is another story, but as Bingo said £1.5m with good add-ons is likely to be a very lucrative sale for us long term, given Doig's age.
The benefit of selling McGinn and him doing so well at Villa is that it gives us and Scottish football some credibility (see also Tierney, Robertson and Van Dijk etc) so English clubs with all their money can have some confidence in spending it with us.
For Hibs, we have seen that we are prepared to spend on sellable talent - Nisbet and Magennis being two recent examples, so when they move on (along with Porteous and Doig) we start the process again, but from a better starting point (i.e. instead of finding a £250k striker and selling for £3m, we can spend £500k on a striker and sell for £5m (for example)).
This improves the standard of our squad, gives us more chance of tangible success (cup runs, league placings and European football) and if you get that process right over a number of seasons you're soon in a position where we are breaking our own highest transfer records both for spend and receipt.
I have said this before, and it's why I am so keen for HSL to really ignite, but we have moved from a board who were cautiously ambitious and were happy to spend a pound less than we earned as a sustainable model, to an owner who is a little more aggressively ambitious and who will (again within controlled budgets) speculate on players knowing that there's a re-sale market there. That along with Gordon's plans to drive income into the club from other avenues, means that if we get it right, then we are staring into some spectacularly good years as Hibs fans.
The opportunity is right in front of us just now, if we secure third and things go our way with the cup (with either us or Rangers or Celtic winning it) then we go into next season with guaranteed European money, potential sale income in the multi-millions, and significant prize money for our league placing. We'll have the opportunity then to get better sponsorship deals etc and so we are uniquely placed (amongst the non-Glasgow sides) to emerge from COVID in really good financial health.
The competitive advantage that could give us for years to come cannot be understated - we go into a position where we should be favourites for third place and more Euro income next season, again this widens the gap financially on the teams around us, and could (with a kind wind) really cement us as the third biggest/most successful side in Scotland for a generation to come.
Nail on the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Media linking are players because we're playing Rangers or Celtic is one of these myths that has grown over the years. If nothing else, it would serve no purpose, as there's no way a player is so weak that he'd let being linked in a newspaper to Leicester affect his performance in a Hibs v Rangers game.
Very accurate analysis of where we are and emphasises the opportunity we now have to finish the season strongly.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
It wasn't anywhere near £3million.Quote:
Originally Posted by H18 SFR
Much less with add-ons like Birmingham winning the Premier League and Champions League.
Rodgers must only think £1.5m is what all our players are worth. you'd have thought he'd learnt his lesson missing out on SJM!
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Originally Posted by matty_f
I don't think it just breeds confidence in clubs looking to purchase players from us but also confidence in young talents who want to make sure that they're taking the right step in their career.
Just now if you had Hearts, Aberdeen and Hibs in for you, there's a clear choice as to who you're most likely to progress your career with. I wonder if the lad McRorie is regretting picking Aberdeen now they look like a terrible team.
The more teams interested the better. Arsenal, Man City also rumoured to be watching him. Good end to the season and scoring the winner and MOTM performance in the cup final should see a bidding war!! Alternatively he stays for another couple of seasons and we keep a very good player
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Originally Posted by matty_f
SJM leaving left a massive SJM-shaped hole in our midfield, and arguably it’s taken us until this season to get the balance right again.
I am not saying we shouldn’t have done the deal - it was obviously right at the time - but he had been here for 3 seasons at that point.
Nisbet, Magennis and Doig are in their first season. Why the rush to sell?
The most important part of the equation is putting a good Hibs team on the park - that requires consistency and players who are committed to us.
He's just signed a contract keeping him here until 2025.
Are we desperate for £1.5m? Is Foig likely to be worth a lot less than that in a couple or 3 years?
I think the answer is no to both of those questions so if that's the case, there's absolutely no reason to sell him unless it was for a collosal sum with huge add one.
Someone above said that it was a myth that the papers ran these stories to unsettle players before games against Rantic. Myth or not, it is a remarkably regular coincidence.
Spot on Steve, I can't actually believe that there's folk out there who truly believe that this story has just been released by the press for no other reason than to put one of our players off their game because we are playing one of the old firm. The Rangers have already won the league anyway it's really bizarreQuote:
Originally Posted by Steve20
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Doig is a young lad who had a good season in Div2 at Queens Park and has developed enough to be 1st pick for us and all by the age of 18, £1.5M with a good add on to a big club is exactly what will be expected and we'll probably take it, if this had been his 2nd season as our number 1 LB then we'd be looking at nearer £3m.
So many spelling mistakes and auto corrects, anyway as everyone is saying I don’t think we’ll be biting at £1.5m for Doig anytime soon.
I don’t understand why people think Hibs players are worth more than any offer we would actually get. 1.5m is probably about right but I’m not sure we’d sell at the moment
£1.5m to £2.5m is about the range we'll get, depending on the add-ons. I have a feeling this will be the Hickey situation again this summer and he'll be away but not without a bit of a frenzy between about 4/5 big name clubs.
I can assure you that England is a very very different culture to Scotland!Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
Have you ever been to Leicester😳?Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
Why do our players always seem to have a value of around £1-£1.5m, according to red top journalists?
Doig is not worth that. He is worth a lot more. Find some of their valuation "theories" staggering at times.
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You are possibly right about current value but you would have to pay a lot more as the player has enormous potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
A 30 year old you would sell at the going rate but not an 18 year old that has the ability to go far in the game.
I don't want to sell him for a while yet but if we had to sell right now I would be looking for double what is being quoted.
He has a good physique already and that will get better, he is ideally suited to succeed in the English game.
Serious question, does anyone still buy this rag?Quote:
Originally Posted by Heckys Wheel
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Yes if he got £10k a week for four years it would be life changing. But £2 million minus taxes to last till the end of out life when you are 22 if things do not work out is not that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
I buy it on a Sunday if Hibs win.Quote:
Originally Posted by EI255
Decent football section with good stats and David Provan's page has comic value.
£80m transfer fee received for the donkey that is Harry Maguire. They can cough up an extra few million for Josh Doig for sure. £1.5m is laughable given he has been on fire, has all the attributes to be a top players and has four years left with us. Jog on Brendan.
Was Hickey not approaching the end of his contract?Quote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf
There’s no way we should be selling Doig for that money. People may be correct that his value right now is £1.5m based on what he’s achieved so far, but that’s an extremely short sighted view. If he continues to progress at the rate he has been his value will be double that this time next year. He’s just signed a new contract and we’ve shown we value holding on to our players if our valuation isn’t met. If someone wants to make an offer we couldn’t refuse, then fair enough, but right now the value is in keeping him here and letting him develop. There’s risk involved for us, but it’s worth it imo.
No chance he’s playing in the EPL next season.
I think he’ll be with us for at least next season and probably the one after.
We’re in no hurry to sell and there has been nothing to suggest that he wants anything other than to progress at Hibs.
He's under contract until 2025, we should just come out and put a £10 million price tag on him and say he's going nowhere unless that valuation is met in an upfront payment. I'm sure the interest will disappear once those English clubs realise they are not getting him on the cheap.
I think his deal was up at the end of this season but due to his age I think Hearts were always going to get something for him regardless of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Player will be delighted with that and would do loads to encourage more young players to sign long term deals I’m sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by allezsauzee
That would completely negate our ability to sign promising youngsters when they have other options.Quote:
Originally Posted by allezsauzee
We need to sell our strategy, our model of player development, in-turn developing their careers from the earliest possible moment.
We’d be running a bulldozer through our strategy.
Who do we play at the weekend? In time honoured tradition Scottish media will look to unsettle the opposition regardless of how meaningless the game is to them winning the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
How much did Celtic get for Kieran Tierney? How much did Rangers get for Alan Hutton?
At his age Doig is as good if not better than both of these players at the same age. If he stays with us for two years clubs will be queuing up with much better offers.
He reminds me so much of John Brownlie at that age and is on a par with him. Some of his delivery into the box is outstanding.
If we get a run in Europe next year he will learn a lot and only improve. Clubs in England have paid £10m to £20m for 18 and 19 years old players.
Don't make the mistake Hearts made with Hickey, who is a quality player IMHO.
You aren't first choice left back at the team sitting 3rd in the Scottish Premiership at 18 years old unless you are a very good player. He's done exceptionally well.
Doig has a lot to learn and Hibs is the best place for him to do just that. There’s clearly a lot of potential there, but he’s nowhere close to being the player we would all like him to become.
Look at Porteous. When he broke through there was a lot of us on here saying how good he was/ would become. Three seasons in and he’s maybe not quite the player some of our more optimistic posters thought he was?
SJM was ahead of Doig in years and achievements when he joined Hibs. He progressed here and earneda big money move, after three seasons.
Doig is in the same category for me. Good breakthrough season, but a long, long way to go. It’s a steep learning curve and he’s established himself as a first team player, an excellent achievement. However, he needs to consolidate that and improve his all round game before even considering leaving Hibs.
Hopefully he is being advised that further game time will see his development improve and that another season would mean it is more likely that when he does move he will be able to command a starting berth at Leicester or wherever he ends up. Also the option of a European campaign will do his prospects no harm either. I hope we hold onto him for at least one more season.
He's right.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
For example Scott Brown signing for Celtic was announced well before the transfer window opened.
Not a pre contract but an actual transfer. Played against Celtic in his last game and scored the winner at Easter Road.
Was registered first day of the transfer window.
Your first two paragraphs are almost a bit contradictory.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
I don’t think Porteous is a good example FWIW, however to run with that, does that not just show that players don’t alway fulfil their potential and there’s an element of having to take good offers for players when they come.
The same very much applies to the player. If he gets the chance of a big move he 100% needs to take it. His form could dip, he could get injured, we could change manager and not get on with the new one
The idea that if he stays at Hibs he will always progress how he has done doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny. If you’re the player and you get the chance of joining a huge club, there’s absolutely. I question you need to take it.
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Originally Posted by bingo70
No, not contradictory I don’t think.
It’s not all about what the player wants either. I wouldn’t be too desperate to sell of our assets and hope Hibs have more ambition for the club than you.
Brown had handed in and retracted a transfer request - it was known he was leaving, and there was clearly horse trading between Hibs / Celtic / Rangers and Browns agent.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
IIRC he finally agreed to join Celtic about a week before that final match when he scored against them.
When the window opened, he signed a contract and was registered - 16th May to be exact.
So, while a player and club can desire a move, they can not sign for another club til the window opens unless its a PCA and that wont apply to Doig.
Needlessly harsh statement. There are going to be a lot of clubs desperate to sell this summer, and if we got Alan Campbell, Lawrence Shankland and Stephen O'Donnell for the sale of one player for example then that would strengthen us in three areas for losing a player in a position we're already well covered in.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
Selling players doesn't show a lack of ambition if it's reinvested very well.
I was under the impression that a player could only sign a pre contract in the last year of his contract, is that still the case? If we accepted £1.5m for him then surely we wouldn’t be able to buy another player with the same potential without spending a large chunk of that money. Better keep and enjoy him for a while.
Not how I remember it.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Window opens on June 1st for example.
I could well be wrong but I thought he signed a few weeks before the Celtic game.
They definitely can. Jamie Murphy signed a permanent deal with Hibs 6 months ago, a year before his deal ended. That's a pre arranged transfer.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Transfer window is completely made up. Hibs could sell Doig tomorrow. He would just join Leicester when the window opened.
Was offered one for free in WH Smith in Aberdeen train station years ago. Told the young man behind the counter I wouldn't wipe my arse with it. Poor guy looked really shocked. 🤪Quote:
Originally Posted by EI255
Reinvesting is fine, reinvesting very well has a huge proviso attached to it. We've been here before and seen that reinvestment either didn't happen or didn't work. Anyway, I doubt very much whether the sale of Doig at the fee mentioned would cover transfer fees/ wages for the three you mention and we would still need a left back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
I'll stick with what we have and see if we can develop a decent young talent into a much bigger asset, whilst the club as a whole takes advantage of having a good manager and strong squad of players. Selling at the first sniff of cash wouldn't exactly be sending out the right message for me.
Doig cant sign a contract with Leicester because the transfer window is closed and he isnt in the final few months of his contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
What are you suggesting, Leicester would just fire £1.5m to Hibs tomorrow when he (a) cant legally sign for them and (b) cant sign a PCA ??
If your premise is true, why are we not hearing daily news updates about these transfers in the (very wealthy) EPL, and why is there such a flap about TDD twice a year if its all made up?
Murphy signed for Hibs on a one season loan during the last summer window - with an obligation to transfer his registration permanently to Hibs for another year on the expiration of his Rangers deal at the end of this season.
We can do this for as long as you want.
I don't think you're right. There is nothing stopping the clubs agreeing a fee outside the transfer window, and (with the selling club's permission) nothing stopping the player/their agent agreeing terms and signing a contract (presumably dated to start in the future). The thing that cannot happen outside the window is transfer of registration.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Pre-contract is a special case where the caveat about having the permission of the player's current club before talking to them no longer applies. But the situation regarding registration is no different.
Do people think recruitment teams are just twiddling their thumbs when the window is shut?
There could easily be truth to this story. Loads of clubs would want to sign Doig.
My memory was the smart money was on him going to Rangers. I remember Rangers supporters singing his name as they thought he was one of their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
Shortly after he signed for Celtic.
May have got that totally wrong though.
I disagree that our last batch of proper reinvesting didn't work - it just ended up being a bit delayed in when it worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
Just now Aberdeen have a stadium that either needs a lot of work or a new stadium altogether, Hearts are £20m into a new stand and markedly inferior training facilities. We have HTC, we have the new East Stand. The problems came from not investing enough in the team - Petrie looked after every penny to the detriment of the first team in the end. When we won the Scottish cup, Lennon blew a lot of it on absolute dross like Big Dave, Slivka and the like.
With no immediate infrastructure work, a reasonable recent record in scouting and excellent training facilities, we're miles ahead in what we can do with player sales compared to our rivals, even with us all feeling the effects of the pandemic.
Player sales can be a good thing - as long as you have enough depth in that position (and with Stevenson and Mackie we do), and the scouting of new talent to bring in with that money is good (and we've really been the best we have been in years at that just now).
Not desperate to see Doig go, but would also be excited to see where we could propel ourselves with a couple of million in our pockets.
I think it's because we've not seen enough reinvestment in the first team in recent years that we've
No you have that right, I can remember Rangers fans singing about signing him.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
I for one thought he was going to Ibrox after hearing the stories that he was from a village in Fife that was a Rangers stronghold.
No, you are 100% right.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
His agent was - as has been mentioned above - playing both sides behind the scenes and it emerged just before the end of the season that he had decided to move to Celtic - which was a major surprise.
For Hibs it was irrelevant, we had a specific fee decided (and had clearly told the agent) and as long as it was met we were not fussed who paid it.
How much will Josh and Porto be worth if we get 3rd spit and/or win the cup. Play 8-10 games in Europe by Xmas ? I think unless the offer is nearer 2.5mill , Ron might well take the chance on keeping them all for another season. Why wouldn’t Josh, Porto, Nisbet , Irvine and Boyle not want to stay for a European adventure. Gets them all a very high profileQuote:
Originally Posted by green day
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Originally Posted by chippy
tbh I hadnt really thought of the Euro angle - but if we get third and either win the cup or its one of the two clubs above us - we are in European football til Christmas, which - as you say - gives us such a lot more exposure.
You’re not right here.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Latest example being Dayot Upemecano signing for Bayern. He’ll join them in the summer but the fee and the players deal are all agreed already.
The Scott Brown scenario was exactly the same.
So what is stopping Leicester from agreeing a deal to transfer Doig registration to them on July first?Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
You are dead wrong but you can keep arguing. A recent example is Erling haaland was announced by dortmund at the end of December 2019 and joined on January 3rd when the window opened in Germany. Happens all the time. Players are announced regularly outside of transfer windows. Mario Gotzw is another famous example. Announced before Bayern played Dortmund in the CL final.
It is all made up because that is the open time you can register new players. You can sign them in advance whenever you want. You literally do here constant transfer rumours.
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Originally Posted by Northernhibee
I'm excited to see where this current team can go. I'm struggling to think of a time in my 50 years of going to matches whereby Hibs have sold good players and replaced them adequately.
I also disagree your point about left back. With Mackie, injuries aside (but bearing them in mind), he's not done anything like enough to suggest he is going to fill the left back spot. Lewis isn't going to take the team forward at this stage in his career.
If we were offered a significantly higher sum than the one quoted, then I would take it. The amount mentioned isn't going to transform Hibs. Better off keeping our assets, showing the fans and the manager we mean to build something more enduring, using the talent we have to win a trophy. That's how Hibs will get more money out of me.
Yep. Great example. Literally announced on bayern website.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler Durden
Slivka was one of the better players Lennon signed. Far from dross. 3 winners against the old firm. We've had much, much worse even recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
This is why I don't see how us or Aberdeen or even god forbid Hearts can be expected to ever win a league title again.
You cannot assemble a squad that solidifies itself and starts to make a title push before clubs down south (not even big ones) start circling. Millions already being thrown at Nisbet, Doig too.
I'm not saying that this squad per se would be future title contenders if left alone, but we'll never have the chance to find out because of the way modern football has gone. There's no time to build anything.
Jean-Marc Bosman has doomed us forever.
It was managers like Jim McLean and the like that drove Jean-Marc Bosman to challenge the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFCEighteen75
And if we see similar before the window opens with JD and Leicester I will be back on here eating humble pie.............:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Much preferred McLean's way to be quite honest with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
I mean, your argument has been wrong regardless of Doig moving or not :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by green day
Some players that played under him may strongly disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFCEighteen75
It worked at the time, but it wouldn't now.
Possibly but there's not much about football at the moment that's "working" for anyone, apart from an elite 10% of footballers and agents.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
It's built on sand and will hopefully collapse. :aok:
Until we get 30K+ fans in every home game we as a club will always be behind the 2 ugly sisters and will have to sell our better players every now and then to keep our head above water. We scrape about looking for for bargain free agents or pay for talent and hope to develop them like McGinn, Nisbet etc, we occasionally get a good talented youngster who we develop but we than have to sell because it helps balance the books and helps pay for the training ground etc.
Gordon said his ambition was to double the wages within 5 years, unfortunately Covid have hit that on the head just now but until that does happen we will still be a club that develops and sells on the better players, right now all we can offer them is 1st team football, the odd cup run and occasional decent league position, that in itself may not be enough to tempt them to stay, Nisbet and Birmingham a good example of a player's head being turned for more cash.