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Originally Posted by desantos0773
Trying to get my head around their Debt and if Tynecastle is their guarantor? In theory Romanov hasn't invested any £ into the club, he has simply funded them thro loans from his bank. Similar scenario to Roman Abramovich at Chelsea. Surely now with the bank going under it is only a matter of time until they go into Administration, but they have no assets? Game over...
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Originally Posted by Gettin' Auld
Maybe they have built the "megastand" but want us to believe it's just an old rickety pile of poop? :greengrin
delighted to see that they are still expecting to create 300 full time jobs. this will be a major fillip for the Gorgie/Dalry community.:rolleyes:
Those jobs will be with Tesco
It may well be a Planning Application, but it is still "Pending Consideration" by CECQuote:
Originally Posted by down-the-slope
https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov...=JUU5NIEWR0000
In all this time I never realised that was the actual application. I thought this had just circulated after they said they had boxes of the application.Quote:
Originally Posted by down-the-slope
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You've got to admire their sense of humour in such dire times.Quote:
Originally Posted by down-the-slope
You'll find that Hearts actually DID build the new superstand, which was completed in 2011, as scheduled, just one year before the fully integrated tram network opened on Edinburgh's streets.
The reason it's hard to see this is because, in a sop to the traditionalists, it was cunningly disguised as the old asbo stand. The new stand is constructed on the same principles as the Tardis in Doctor Who. What looks like a cramped, rickety, antiquated death trap on the outside, is actually a spacious, state-of-the art affair with...well, you can read all about it on the link.
Hearts did this by applying their revolutionary systems of finance "we only owe it to ourselves" to the space-time continuum, resulting in big luxury for them, and jealousy for us hobos. You surely must have found it highly suspicious that 403,500 people (assuming away end is filled) could be accommodated in a 17,500 capacity stadium?
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Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Sooooooo it's Friday ! *Shout out Rebecca Black*
Are they dead yet ?! :cb
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Originally Posted by EdinMike
They are in my heid and they'll be non existent by the time I get home and set about the Corona and Jack Daniels! :aok:
Rebecca Black is actually my Niece. FACT.Quote:
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Originally Posted by desantos0773
Apart from the content of this, I admire the whole tone. Matter of fact yet foreboding. Nice work.
Is that you Ian Black?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
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Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Who is she? apart from being your niece. I'm lost!Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
Just his niece I would have thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
But if you ask a jambo the same question, you can expect a long list of answers.
I'm intrigued!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibercelona
Niece, sister, mother, grandmother, daughter, etcQuote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Be warned...you did ask...:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0
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Originally Posted by HibeeN
Led Zep never played such schite :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
Oh dear!Quote:
Originally Posted by HibeeN
I think I'll stop short of saying thanks!
Forgot how bad that was :rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by HibeeN
Fortunately/unfortunately, it was the first/last time I've seen it. If that was popular, then it confirms my suspicions that it's a really sad time to be a teenagerQuote:
Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
This thread gets me more excited than any porn site out there :devil:
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Back on a more serious note :wink:
It seems according to the press this morning that Houston will be taking over for the LCF.
Quick question, where the hell do they get the money and the balls to announce this?, why are the SPL bigwigs not asking questions here, they ain't got a pot to piss in and up to their ear holes in debt but they can afford a new managers wages?
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Enlighten me please...
Can only assume that they managed to get rid of fester without having to pay compensation thus freeing up a wage for a new managerQuote:
Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762
..................and Houston allegedly left United due to future pay cut and financial cutbacks to his team.:rolleyes: Irony isn't a big enough word.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762
Houston looks a wee bit like a bus driver too to be fair
...........not the most inspiring figurehead to lead a club through an insolvency event either.:cbQuote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
what about going into admin would be good, will they not just get there debt wiped out like the rangers and keep all there "assets" i say that loosely. just seems like a quick way to save 40 million quid or whatever there up to now?
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Originally Posted by West hamBERNIAN
Not quite the same. A Lithuanian admin would be working for the Lituanian State who has just seen about £ 70 million of their hard earned pee'd up a wall by Vlad on one of his foreign toys.
I don't think it would be good Lithuanian politics to be giving a Russian crook ( alledgedly ) an easy time.
I don't really know how it would play out over here with a local admin. working on instruction of the Lith.Admin. but I would have thought they would be better off getting themselves into admin. before the foreign lot do it for them.
but how would any of this affect the yams? what difference will it actually make?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
rangers are in a far better position now, when they eventually get back they'll spend a shed load and win everything again taking ours and everybody elses players in the process.
I find it incredible that they find managers like Fester who just walk away without a whimper about no compensation on their contract and now Houston leaves a fairly good run club because of financial constraints to put his hat in for the worst run SPL club in the history of ScottishQuote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Football (bar the huns yes)...is there something in the water up there?
There are a lot of differences.Quote:
Originally Posted by West hamBERNIAN
Taking the Rangers situation first, they are not out of the woods yet. The liquidators have still to investigate the transfer of the assets to Sevco at what appears to be an undervalue.
However, the main difference between the two is that Hearts' main asset(Tynecastle) is pledged as security to one of its creditors, which in itself is under threat of administration. There was no such security in the RFC case, which made it easier to transfer Ibrox.
The whole security/UBIG situation is the key here, and we aren't any closer to establishing how that will play out. My best guess at the moment is that the best Hearts can hope for is to preserve the club (however you define that), but be homeless.
That's the problem with this thread, it's all guesswork and speculation(entertaining though that is!). No one really knows what the next move is, or what effect the closing of UB has on the day to day running of UBIG. Personally I'm looking forward to the next domino to fall and the next level of entertainment to keep me amused on those dull work days . . :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
in this case i am very much pro admin :greengrin
There's merit in that. There is a perception that a "friendly" administrator is better than one who is imposed. That didn't work out with Craig Whyte, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
I reckon that, if Hearts make it to the Top 6, you might see them going into administration voluntarily, ie appointing someone themselves. That way, the 18 point penalty is irrelevant. (although other clubs would, rightly IMO, have a say about that).
If they don't make the Top 6, they may still circle the wagons. After all, that is probably their duty, given their apparent insolvency.
Did he not leave Utd because he signed a contract with Blackpool for the start of next season?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Or am I wrong / lost / misguided / drunk etc etc?
Did he not leave Utd because he signed a contract with Blackpool for the start of next season?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Or am I wrong / lost / misguided / drunk etc etc?
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Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu
I'm going with drunk :greengrin
Lol I'm blaming the iPad for the duplicate post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
No drinks today - yet
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Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu
:greengrin :agree::agree::agree:
Some utterly hilarious quotes from Houston on the managers job in the papers...are you sure you are in a sane frame of mind Peter?
:hilarious
The sooner the club dies the better :aok:
If they get as much of a helping hand off the pitch as they do on it, then I just can't see it ever happening. :rolleyes:
It's fair to say that Hearts dodged a bullet today. Thankfully they have an Exocet missile heading their way that might prove to be harder to dodge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibercelona
I'm not so sure they did. They needed a win to get into the top 6 before the split and they failed. The financial implications of that, and the points deduction should they (or UBIG) go into administration, are taking them one step closer to oblivion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Are they definitely bottom 6 now?
I really hate that club and what they got away with today really just reinforces that, for all their cheating, overspending and the rest they still seem tae get away with murder. The sooner the are deid the better.
This. Word for word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Desperate Dan
Can't wait for them to die. Heard from an impeccacable source avril was interviewed on Friday to be head **** again
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They are 6 points behind us and we occupy 6th spot. They have two games left and we have three.They need to win both and overturn an eleven goal deficit in the process. That is assuming we don't pick up any more points before the split. All that is ignoring any of the teams between us not doing anything to pick up points either. I haven't looked at the fixtures but I think all three things going their way are highly unlikely. I think it's fair to say they are bottom six. The only question remaining is will we be there beside them.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Hopefully they are limping along, trying desperately to survive until the cup final. Once they are beaten in the final, they'll start to unravel.
I'm sure if they had secured top 6, then they would have taken admin/points hit. Now that option is practically impossible!
Ditto, the sooner they die the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Desperate Dan
It would require them to overcome a 12 goal difference in 2 games and for Hibs, Dundee United and Kilmarnock not to win a game out of the 3 each that they have left.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
That's a huge "ask" by any standards, even with half the referees giving them a helping hand.
They have next to no chance. In terms of odds I would say 500-1. Or 8 snookers required playing with a broken arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
They've scored 30 goals in 31 games and now require at least 11 in 2 games. 5,000/1 is probably still a bit miserable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
To make the top six they need all of the following to happen:
To win their remaining two games
Hibs to lose all their remaining three games
The goal difference swing to be more than 11 (that's possible since Hibs losing would worsen our goal difference)
Killie to get no more than two points fron their remaining three games
Aberdeen and United to draw when they play each other and then lose all their remaining games.
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Originally Posted by Caversham Green
Let's just say they have no chance what's so ever :aok:
It will never happen in a million years. :wink:
If I was Terry Pratchett I'd be bunging my life savings on them. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
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Originally Posted by Killiehibbie
They need 8 - maybe 9. Maybe less. If we lose 3, which we'd have to by at least one goal each time, that's a gd of 8 to overcome.
And we lost 3 by 2 goals each, very possible, they only need to up their gd by 5 or 6 ... depending on how many goals are being scored.
Well, they won't be in the top six. This seems to be informing the attitude of the Yams, who seem surprisingly downcast after getting that disgusting freebie. They really needed a win, and their failure to get one and make the top six is another nail in their coffin. That's why I couldn't get too upset about the goal 'decision'.
In the grand picture, we actually did a decent bit of damage yesterday. A defeat would have been a disaster and given them strong momentum for a top six finish and a relatively inconsequential administration. A win would have been nice, as it would have led to extreme blood-letting down Gorgie way. But a draw is a bit of a head-mess for them.
Well that would take us out of the equation, but what about Dundee Utd, Kilmarnock and Aberdeen (two of which play each other) losing every game they play between now and the split? :wink:Quote:
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Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
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It's not even a straw, but they'll cling to it like it's the Lossiemouth Life Boat :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
I see they still haven't sold out their 25K cup final tickets, compare to 30K Hibbies v Killie and 40K v Livi. Poor show from the super enormously massive big team with the best crop of youngsters in the history of world football.
Totally agree. They have cheated in order to win for years and now officials are cheating on their behalf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Desperate Dan
A final loss would be significant for them this weekend. C'mon St Mirren
I wonder how ST sales are going???
They all assume they are getting bought by some Scandinavian, Norwegian, Swedish, Russian, Scottish, Portuguese (take your pick) consortium. They don't know who they are, what the deal is, how much investment will be made, who will own the ground etc
What they do know is that all of the debt will be written off and they will start with a debt free situation in the summer. They also know that the new owners, despite likely to be unknown foreigners are lining up a big name Scottish manager like Levein (chortle)
This will all be announced on Thursday or Friday this week, eliminating any threat to them for ever more and a major boost in advance of the cup final.
#Allisbarry
Glad to here it! Now I can get a decent sleep without all that worry!Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
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This lot appear to be ruled out though:
Ewan Murray@mrewanmurrayClub 9 Sports again today dismissed idea of them/Bill Miller buying Hearts. Makes you wonder why others would push this story to fans?
Does anyone know if h yams have realised any financial results since July 2011?
I can't see how any investor would get past the initial discussion stage without sight of accounts, even interim results?
Has the follow up FOI been answered by the Council yet?
Just had a sneaky peek on sick back to try and get a feeling of what the yaks think.
First thing I picked up was a meeting with the Scandinavians and the FoH which was meant to happen last week never took place as the Scandinavians never showed.
Second thing is some are saying there is to be an announcement made on thurs and they are getting their hopes up.
The only thing I can take from that is even the Scandinavians know who ****ed they are and that horrible club is going down the ****ter at last
Pretty sure i read here they owe +50k from the request of information.. Might be mistaken.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
It was actually 30 June 2011 (just under 21 months out of date) and no, they haven't. Not even when they were trying to sell those 'shares' which still haven't been registered or certified.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
Did B Anderson not say they would be dealing with them on March 6th or 7th? I'm sure I read that somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
The updated figure I got was £ 43,513 in arrears on 22/2/2013 for rent and rates. That does not include police charges which I am trying to get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
:aok: 3 days to go then.:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by GoldenEagle
Wouldn't read too much into what that prick says. It's been conclusively proven that he is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the hearts board and will report any lies they feed him as if they are factual.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
I know, I'm just wondering if we can ram those words right up his Twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by #FromTheCapital
Just heard, Houston who was shoe in, but the Lith's did not like him so Frail is in charge till the end of the season or till they go bust, which ever comes first.
I'd like tae pit ma fit doon his mooth. that' d shut him up for a wee while, instead of making out he knows what's actually happening doon gorgie wayQuote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
not buying that. they canny be that stupid, shirley.Quote:
Originally Posted by big-mo
Tell me your being serious!Quote:
Originally Posted by big-mo
Do you mean locke is in charge until they go bust. Surely we wouldn't be lucky enough to get stevie fail back in the hotseatQuote:
Originally Posted by big-mo
Do you mean Locke, not Frail.Quote:
Originally Posted by big-mo
Given that Fail is Celtc U19 coach, I'm assuming he means Locke.
2014, 2015 etc, all have March's too. He didn't specify a year the sleakit get. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
Sorry, one yam is like another, yes it is Locke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Haha great if true. Wonder why the liths didn't like him? Most definitely because of the questions he said he was going to ask!Quote:
Originally Posted by big-mo
Like - can I get paid?Quote:
Originally Posted by #FromTheCapital
I heard that Houston turned them down as he was not given permission to bring in his own backroom staff . . . From a slavering yam at my work mind you!Quote:
Originally Posted by big-mo
nah, I'd go for basic questions being asked by him. Locke on the other hand.............he couldnae form a basic question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wee Scottie Dug
there is another 49 to be interviewed though
Isn't it pay day on Friday??
Yes payday on Friday but its likely they will pay up for the remainder of the season. They will have income from cup final tickets and season tickets sales. Still you never know....
Houston definitely taking over after the League Cup Final, according to the Scotsman.
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