Badenoch and Braverman polled better than him with members, he polled better than Mordaunt. The members and erg are wanting Badenoch in future, probably because she is a ****ing lunatic right wingerQuote:
Originally Posted by OldEast
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Badenoch and Braverman polled better than him with members, he polled better than Mordaunt. The members and erg are wanting Badenoch in future, probably because she is a ****ing lunatic right wingerQuote:
Originally Posted by OldEast
In 48 hours as PM, Rishi Sunak has
- Pulled out of attending Cop27 in Egypt
- Removed Cop president Alok Sharma from Cabinet
- Removed climate minister Graham Stuart from Cabinet
Appointing a Home Secretary of Indian origin is designed to appease racists. How does that work?Quote:
Originally Posted by OldEast
Because the most important thing to the racist membership is immigration.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Seriously??Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Someone said the express was against but every article is pro except one saying businesses would be damaged by fracking ban, sums them up money money
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.exp...ishi-sunak/amp
Some nuggets of headlines
Sunak wins over support with ‘Cameron-like’ performance as new PM ditches ‘Boris bluster
Pound soars and FTSE rallies back up as markets rejoice over new PM Rishi Sunak
Sunak is devastating for Labour! Rishi humiliates Starmer's two-faced strategy at PMQs
Do you really think people of Indian origin can't be right wing, racist (castist) loons?Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
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Originally Posted by He's here!
Have you read any of her opinions on immigration and refugees lately?
I think the right wing racist nut jobs are quite willing to overlook the colour of her skin if they see her as anti-immigration, and wanting to send refugees to Rwanda.
She is also spitting mad at anything that is "woke" is seems. Whatever that is.
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If the polling shows sunak closer to labour than Truss was and boris near the end, where does that put this theory.
Even though Sunak had a higher approval rating than boris and Mordaunt and Sunak was expected to beat Mordaunt in a run off
Public inexplicably like Sunak more than Starmer and much more than Truss, Johnson and Mordaunt
https://archive.ph/bcrkc
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Sunak beats Starmer on economy, taxes and business, poll shows - giving hope for Tories
➡️ Labour still holds a large polling lead – but Rishi Sunak’s personal ratings appear to be positive
Probably a view based on this front page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgBoGkLX...g&name=900x900
So they ignored the 20 positive ones like the ones saying he was great against Starmer or that he will close the gap. Picking the outlier to fit it into your point doesn't show much.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
Every mp that has tried to cut pensions has always been hammered by the papers. Probably because the vast majority that still buy papers are old
Loady pesh anyway. Not even tomorrow's fish and chip wrapper these days. They'll flip on a whim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Undoubtedly everything in the express is rot for the masses. When he has to perform cuts next month they will hate him, well actually cuts to those better off, he can bash on cutting benefits ectQuote:
Originally Posted by Kato
They don’t read the Daily Express or it’s website would be my guess. For most people, their opinion on the editorial position of publications they don’t read will be based on what’s put on their front page rather than what’s inside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
How many people who don’t read the Daily Express do you reckon go on their website to search for articles tagged with Rishi Sunak’s name?
So it's actually got nothing to do with racism then?Quote:
Originally Posted by OldEast
So your saying the almost dozen positive front pages they missed, then seen one not really negative one they say its racist and anti Sunak. If I was going to say it was I'd do the 30 seconds research needed to confirm my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
The public and tory voters have higher approval ratings for Sunak than boris and Mordaunt, clutching. I personally hate him because he's a **** but it seems tories quite like him
The membership is racist. Immigration is important to those racists.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Hence his original comment.
Yep that was me, I wouldn't look any further than the front page in these rags. It was so unusual, their usual headline would be "Rishi to [insert blatant lie here]".Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Ok. Here's what I think they'll do. Not that I'm a financial expert but that never stopped them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
They will link the pensions and the benefits they ensure people need to inflation.
They will stick to more or less the Hunt reversals otherwise.
A huge big culture war drum will be banged on social media, the rags and telly so the 20 per cent of racists in this country might just vote for them again, not en mass like 2019 but a lot. That ensures another 10% of dimwits who listen to the racists on FB/down the pub/foodbank.
Look at how the graphs are doing (rather than actual people) then risk a GE in march. That's if we aren't dragged into the war by that time. The actual war with Putin I mean, rather than the culture war. They are on the same side as Putin in that one.
WC will be interesting what with all the knee taking and pro LGBT stuff coming from squads.
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Pretty much all their front pages have been positive to him , fawning really. Tories like him and sadly the electorate too. He was inexplicably well liked as chancellor too until near the endQuote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
I think they will want and need to cut massively. They will obviously do what is most popular to their voters rather than the public or the worst off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
The study I put up of 20,000 tory voters showed 4 million of the 6 they lost in recent poll, were from the left of the party. Culture wars won't save them the voters that go between labour and tories are politically centre. They care about mortgages and pensions. Both could be getting hammered next year
Are they concerned about Irish, or Canadian or Australian immigrants when those people want to come here to better themselves? And do those people even tick the mental box when one thinks of ‘immigrants’ anymore? Of course they aren’t concerned and of COURSE those aren’t the immigrants that come to mind. Everyone knows that. That’s why it’s racism, same as it was in the Cowgate circa 1850Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Politician appeals to racists by being racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Is it like a double negative making a positive?
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How about the supposed illegitimacy of British people living in Northern Ireland, having been 'planted' there 400 years ago? That's at the root of Irish nationalism, but do these people still tick the 'immigrant' box?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
That's quite a tangled opinion to untie.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Have you read any Irish history?
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Planted? You mean, like a potato?Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
I think you misunderstood my metaphor and lost yourself in another one :greengrin
Let’s keep it simple. I contend immigration concerns are really always about racism.
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Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Absolutely this.
I've just finished a book called Irish, about the influx and subsequent influences of the Irish, both Catholic and protestant, into Glasgow.
A lot of stuff I didn't know. Edinburgh hibernian gets an honourable mention when it comes to formation of the Keltic by brother Walfrid.
I reckon a theoretical situation may occur where immigration concern is justified. I'm thinking of maybe a very small, densely populated country, where the demographic is such that there are plenty of young people of working age paying ample taxes to maintain the needs of the whole population, and who are breeding successfully or maybe even too quickly. In that situation, what is to be gained from further immigration?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
That situation is some distance from reality anywhere imo, especially in the UK (and even more so in Scotland) where racist "concerns about immigration" are actually depriving us of valid ways to make the lives of white, indigenous folk better.
The idiots who drive these agendas have a lot to answer for.
As anybody who follows the us elections will point out the swing voters care about mortgages,bills and the cost of fuel. On all counts it will be bad in 2 years time. Folk looked past boris being a lying barsteward as he wasnt hurting their wallet. Truss has taken loads out of folks wallets and sunak wont stop this. He will merely stop it being a rout at the election. Best the tories can hope for is either a small labour majority or a lab/snp govt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
What was never discussed until after 2016 was that the UK could have heavily restricted the immigration of people coming to work from the EU by the placing conditions. Germany has freedom of movement but to there you must have a job and somewhere to live.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
It was put around that a "grown up discussion" was required which turned into a xenophobic free for all and as it stands the word "immigration" has connotations of dinghys, 70 million turks coming "over here" and "EU tyrants", any kind of conversation is therefore stunted.
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Positive in the sense hes not truss or boris. The honeymoon wont last long. Mortgage rates will soon go up again and then reality will biteQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Not an opinion, just questioning what these folk are after 400 years. Are they still invaders?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Daily Show accused of trying to project American views on race on to the UK. Noah's comments do seem wildly misjudged:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
No 10 wades into row over Trevor Noah's 'simply wrong' comments on Sunak (msn.com)
I agree, theoretically there is. It probably does exist, lots of Sci-if deals with the idea. As you say, you need a perfect social and economic environment which is threatened by mass migration on a huge scale. Climate change means the latter is inevitable, but the former is nowhere to be seen unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Exactly, surely not difficult to grasp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
It's simplistic. The union jack boxers wearer's will always vote tory and the people in a union Labour, broad generalisation but you get the drift. As mjhibby says the swing voters care about finances, that's where the tories have lost their voters in the polls.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldEast
Sunaks got a honeymoon period. Tory voters like him, certainly more than boris Mordaunt ect. They see stability in their pocket. Unfortunately uk is going to go into recession next year, mortgages are going to explode, there is a massive austerity coming and more. They will turn on him next year
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/ri...tories-1938481
Sunak more popular than Starmer but Labour still miles ahead. Shows how quickly voters forget though.
I have a bad feeling about how the next couple of years will play out and how the media will rally round the Tories.
That's all correct but the point was that Braverman's appointment would please the racists in the party. That's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I still think it will be hard for him to escape unscathed as everybody gets poorer over the next couple of years.Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
A bit like Gordon Brown, he was left holding the parcel when the music stopped. He didn’t cause the world crash in 2008 but was a sitting duck for critical Tories sniping from the sidelines.
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
There seems to be a consistent attempt to deny anyone is motivated to vote a particular way because of racism, when it’s clearly some peoples strong motivation, as it would be if your priority was the NHS, or the environment, or low taxes. I don’t know why anyone would deny something so evidently true. A consistent 20-25% of us, regardless of wider societal change, just don’t like the ****ing *****.
My experience, living in an area with a very large nasty party majority has always been that race and anti foreign feelings are a big factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Braverman is very much in sync with what many talk about in relation to all things foreign/immigration. Like her it's often big on rhetoric and short on detail of how what they want to see is to be achieved and there is generally an absence of any compassion or humanity in what they say though cost of doing anything is often a factor.
Giving £65bn to hedge fund managers in a fortnight isn't on their radar.
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The original conversation was about Sunak, Braverman got brought into it. Fact is tory voters like him, quite a bit above the other contenders too. The press is giving him an easy ride too unfortunately. A large proportion of racists will vote tory, but the swing voters do it for economicsQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
A few weeks in the life of Douglas Ross.
https://twitter.com/marcuscarslaw1/s...92852205166593
Brilliant.Quote:
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Again, I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
My reply was explaining what the poster meant by saying that Braverman was brought in to please the racists. I didn't react to the wider issue. Not that it really matters. :greengrin
I am astounded by the people saying that it's ok to bring Braverman back into government because she used her private email deliberately as a political weapon against Truss.
FFS, that's much worse than her just being careless.
Doesn't really matter your probably right ha. We're all going to get absolutely screwed in the next two years by the tories, even the racist *******s that vote for themQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Broken clock and all that
Jacob_Rees_Mogg
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The Prime Minister is right not to go to COP. The cost of living won’t be solved in Sharm el Sheikh where each hotel room for the conference is £2,000 a night
NadineDorries
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For balance, my friend…The Prime Minister is WRONG not to go to COP. Global warming is the biggest crisis facing our planet and net zero creates many 1000s of jobs which is good for the economy. COP in Glasgow was most successful ever… but don’t expect media to report that
Seems he is a liar ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Rees-Mogg to Laura Kuenssberg on Sunday: “Boris Johnson will certainly stand.”
Rees-Mogg today: “His campaign started well but then ran out of steam. This was clear by Sunday morning, when my slumbers were disturbed by the great man himself prior to the Kuenssberg programme.”
https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/...7R9tVEOiU4gYww
In other news, water is wet and Hearts still haven't won the League Cup...Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Funny I was talking about that to my brother last night. Wish I knew about the link then. He is a political chameleon who will change any colour of blue for a tickle under the chin from WestminsterQuote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
It would be a sacking for a low level Civil Servant and that would be one with less sensitive documents. It is perhaps worse than her evil twin being let off with bullying but as a Public Servant and Union rep it really grinds my gears what Ministers get away with and the toils that their employees face day to dayQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Correct, especially since she acts as the very top of the home office, which includes civil servants and police officers etc who, as you allude too, who be sacked but probably criminally prosecuted for what she did.Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
It's shameful but they don't feel shame.
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Gary Glitter's lawyers will be all over this for defamation[emoji6]
https://twitter.com/TSting18/status/...6n3OZ1HAQ&s=08
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Ruth the mooth was a party sycophant like wee Dougie but she got some people on board. Surely this wee idiot can only be driving folk away.Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
To be fair Tory supporters aren't much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldEast
And that’s what he wants for Scotland. Constantly seeking approval from London.Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
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Was it 'Clydeside: Red, Orange, Green' by Ian Mitchell, at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
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Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Or the Bl**dy Poles...
Hence the success of Brexit.
The books title is Irish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Irish-Remarkable-Saga-Nation-City/dp/1840188510/ref=asc_df_1840188510/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310979544451&hvpos=&hvnetw= g&hvrand=16305403887140605608&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqm t=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20342&hvta rgid=pla-563048627906&psc=1&th=1&psc=1
John Burrows is the author.
Cheers, I might look it up. Sounds interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Exactly. What did the red wall vote Tory for, after voting Leave?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
It's a toughie to answer, the levelling up illusion, the expectation that as the new breed of tory they might get their snout a bit nearer the trough?Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
That's worked out well.
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Still, I've more in common with them than I have a crofter on Lewis apparently, bless 'em.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
I've got a relative from Lewis and I don't see the connection[emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
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What about all the Tory voters in Edinburgh, or a racist from Glasgow. Nationalism is a load of pish and dangerous. Good guys and pricks everywhereQuote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
I'm referring to a trope that members of the Scottish branch of the Labour Party deployed all the time in the 60s to 90 to keep the Scottish working class vote on their side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
There's still a few of them at it!
That doesn’t make sense at all even allowing for your follow up post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
I've got more in common with a [insert working class occupation here in a part of north England that voted for Brexit and then for Boris Johnson] than I have with someone living a different way of life in the heedrum hodrums.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
That was a regular argument put at me by "internationalist " Labour folk back in the day.
Oh dear God
https://youtu.be/aCQhQhma1So
A third of Scots approve of the Rwanda policy, a quarter voted tory in the last election. Independence won't get rid of that. This othering of people is bad. I want Independence to get rid of the flawed corrupt Westminster system. I don't want it because Scots are better or doesn't have racistsQuote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
https://archive.ph/xKfgh
Another fawning Sunak piece in the times about how smart he is. It says he was instrumental and intelligent to stop the lockdown at Christmas that Scotland had. It turned out in hindsight that was correct.
It fails to ****** mention he apposed every lockdown including the first. If we followed him with that business only approach literally hundreds of thousands would be dead. He brought covid deniers to talk to cabinet. Thank god boris shaken by being hospitalised after shacking everyone's hands like a tit, apposed them and listened to Whitty and valance.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4...down-vg5xbpsfx
It also fails to mention that Sunak was the journalist's best manQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Oooft just checked and your not joking, unreal that 😆Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Grieves
https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/s...18108003147777
@SkyNews
🗣️ 'It's a pity you don't pay them more'.
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak was challenged about pay for nurses during a visit to Croydon Hospital this morning.
Watch the moment
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https://www.youtube/watch?v=alh7XJVxCAY
Important bit of context. WowQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr Grieves
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Originally Posted by JimBHibees
We are currently ruled by an evil and selfish cabal of Big Business, the Media they mostly own and the Politicians that are in their pockets.... or in Sunak's case, married to their daughter.
But hey-ho, the people that demand the right to vote Tory? Then carry on as, it's your democratic right to vote for whoever serves your own personal interest, or keeps a few quid in your pocket*.... regardless of how evil and corrupt they are, and the effect it has on everybody else.
* Disclaimer: There are no guarantees that 'few quid' will stay in your pocket for very long, as there's always another Bojo or Dim Lizzy just around the corner.
It won't get rid of those wanting these kind of inhumane policies towards refugees but it will get rid of the policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
That's why I said I want independence, fptp helps nut jobs prevail. Westminster is a cesspit that we need shot offQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
The circle keeps on spinningQuote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Peston
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My colleague Amber de Botton is leaving ITV to be @RishiSunak’s director of communications. She is a brilliant news editor and journalist, and leaves a huge hole at @itvnews
Here's the Scottish Secretary busy looking after the interests of Scotland ...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgL_hNDW...jpg&name=small
Just read that the wedding was to Allegra Stratton, boris's pr person (sacked). What a horrible Web fleet street to Westminster. They are all friends at Westminster blackford apparently got on really well with Boris and seems friendly with mordauntQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr Grieves
https://mobile.twitter.com/zulfikar_sheikh/status/1584991221721616385
some poor souls just don't understand this :agree:
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change of topic with the patient then total deflection when asked about nurses pay....
Phantom Power on Twitter: "A patient tells Dr Austerity Rishi Sunak to pay NHS staff more then blanks the issue when asked. Sunak’s had several meetings with private US health and social care firms to discuss ‘opportunities’ in the UK. https://t.co/dTIj3RTG85" / Twitter
it's a pity very few interviewers actually keep asking for an answer to the freakin question asked
It’s always good to hear that politicians from opposing parties can still be friends and get on together. Gives me hope for a kinder less divisive political landscape. I’m know, I’m a dreamer. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I wouldn't be using a tweet from an unhinged albanaut like Tasmina Ahmed sheikh's husband as incrontavertible evidence that Ian Blackford is pals with Boris and mordaunt. The guy is an absolute fruitloop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I suspect it's little more than being civil.
So wait. The Foreign Secretary's phone comprehensively hacked, apparently by a hostile foreign power.
And the Prime Minister and Cabinet Secretary agreed to cover it up so it didn't derail her chances of winning the race to be Prime Minister?
Have I misunderstood any of that?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...box=1667070279
Sunak seems to be making some very school boy errors in his first week.
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Sunday Times says Hunt thinks a formula close to 50% spending cuts, 50% tax increases. Is looking to tighten by £50 billion. A very grim scenario on every front.
https://thetimes.co.uk/article/80de6...5c726dbc25d08d
The coverage of it I've read doesn't make much sense but perhaps that's indicative of how huge this might beQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Boris covering up Russian interference again. Can't blame Truss as its apparent that the remote for your telly is more sentient, and useful. Johnson insisted on a total news blackout which could only have been a section D.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Looking like Johnson will be at COP27. You wonder why he wants to mingle with so many foreigners as he certainly didn't like having them here, bars the Russians of course.
Something highly shady going on here. When things were strained between the Russians and the in the 20th century the most useful traitors were all toffs. History tends to repeat itself and all that.
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If you have to say it…..
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You're utterly pathetic wee Dougie. NS swats you away like an annoying midge. Long may you stay in the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Detestable Tory part 23142187429183 Tory peer apparently misled watchdog investigating his alleged misconduct | House of Lords | The Guardian
should get a fine just for his name alone: Charles Henry John Benedict Crofton Chetwynd Chetwynd-Talbot :agree:
Monty Python Election Night special.Quote:
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:top marksQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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