Just watched it,i like faddy but it's terrible without mikey stewart.
The beeb has lost it with scottish footie coverge,hibs hardly mentioned.
Boring and stale pish!!
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Just watched it,i like faddy but it's terrible without mikey stewart.
The beeb has lost it with scottish footie coverge,hibs hardly mentioned.
Boring and stale pish!!
Dynamo Kiev.Quote:
Originally Posted by green with envy
I think the old lines you see now are from a couple of years ago when they made it really narrow and short. Can’t remember who was manager at the time, think it was before ClarkeQuote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
35-40 mins of OF games and the others just brushed over, shocking.
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Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys
Rings a bell
It’s been like that since the beginning of last season, might even have been two season ago. Was done by Clarke and worked well fir them. No question it is easier for average to poor teams to get results on small pitches. Aberdeen, Killie and of course hahahahearts know all about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
Hearts will never play an open expansive style of football while they are based at their Smellodrome. Way too small.Quote:
Originally Posted by CentreLine
Instead of Mikey Stewart on Sportscene the BBC has booked eaveryone's favourite racist and misogynist Malky Mackay. Importantly though he's never said anything about Jim Traynor.
This is really ridiculous from the BBC now. Not sure where I heard it from but I thought he it was meant to be a 5 day suspension? Now they are getting bigoted relics like Mackay in instead?
I don’t know if they’ve even made reference to MS since his comments a week past Monday. Very poor stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibby rae
SubbutinyQuote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
Think they did it after Red Star Belgrade destroyed them in the first leg of a European Cup tie in the season Red Star won it.Quote:
Originally Posted by green with envy
The story was they made the pitch smaller to stop Red Star giving them another doing on the big pitch.
The red card given to Hamilton yesterday is an absolute joke; he chests it down but it hits his arm on the way down. Clearly not intentional.
I can’t understand how it’s a straight red?Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
It's a red for the same sort of reason that it was a two-point penalty for fielding an ineligible player in the League Cup rather than a three-point penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu
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Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu
Only thought would be that the ref thought it was a deliberate handball stopping a clear goalscoring opportunity but a) it blatantly wasn't deliberate and b) it blatantly wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity.
Absolute joke by the BBC WEGGIE....bin Michael Stewart, for saying that everyone thinks, and bring in a racist who's been cold shoulderd by most media tv outlets .(And clubs)...Cound'nt make it up..still happy enough to be employed by the S.F.A....Quote:
Originally Posted by hibby rae
..beggars belief.
Really disgusting that Mikey Stewart is deemed less acceptable than this racist cretin mackay
Any handling whether intentional or not is a foul or penalty if in the the box. So an offence. The offence was deemed to have stopped a goal scoring opportunity so a red.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu
Your first sentence is incorrect. Any handball which leads to a goal, whether intentional or not is now a foul. A handball by a defending team still needs to be deliberate.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
The box is irrelevant and this Hamilton example wasn’t in the box anyway.
Shocker of a decision but not surprised from Clancy
correct. We now have the weird situation where the handball rule is different for defenders and attackers. So if the ball is booted at point blank range inside the box then scuffs the arm of another attacker and goes in, its s foul not a goal. However if it’s hit from point blank range, thumps off a defenders hand, thus stopping a certain goal, it’s not a penalty. :rolleyes: Modern football is weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler Durden
Of course Scottish referees don’t seem to realise the laws have changed.
Oh they realise ok, but choose to implement laws in their own way, as usualQuote:
Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
Yes you are right on the rule change. But if you look at the replays of the incident, one hand is above the shoulder at one point and I think the referee's view is that the hands and arms where being used to bring the ball under control and gain pocession. If that is his view then, not saying it is the correct reading of the situation, it has to be a red as the foul is stopping a good goal scoring situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler Durden
coz he had Naismith telling him it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu
That’s poor - not even a mention of it that I’ve seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
They welcome a homophobic, sexist racist on to Sportscene, but they’ll draw the line at any robust opinion on Jim Traynor.
If Michael Stewart had made reference to Chinkys, gays & Jews and cracked a side splitter about a Black Monopoly game then he’d probably still be broadcasting.
Don’t you think Mackay has served his punishment?? shown severe attrition and deserves to get on with his career ? He has done lots of work on diversity and inclusion since those awful texts..Quote:
Originally Posted by Carheenlea
We all make mistakes...but we all can learn and change too
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Malky Mackay on Sportscene: Joe Lewis is the Celtic keeper, Sean Clare is called Daryl Clare and the Hibs game was on Saturday
He's also a bigot.
Some good content on Old Firm Facts though.
I'm not sure he has actually. Hasn't shown any remorse.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
A man of his age and stature in the 21st century. Surely he should have known by that point he was wrong.
The point is, hes not just 'served his punishment' he's been erected up to the very pinnacle of football coaching in this country. If the SFA wanted to show they wanted to retain backward nasty wee attitudes in their *****y organisation they couldnt have appointed a better performance director.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
I had the misfortune to listen to him on the scottish coaching podcast recently, where he was treated like some kind of svengali Cruyff like figure, and he had literally nothing interesting to say.
Not going to comment on his technical views ...but I feel this continual pillorying of people who have made mistakes is a horrible part of life and social media today ..he actually lost his job over it..and has since done lots of related education and charity related work on the topic ....Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
People tend to not let these things go - as if no one learns by their mistakes ..That is very unhealthy .
[QUOTE=bigwheel;6087787]Not going to comment on his technical views ...but I feel this continual pillorying of people who have made mistakes is a horrible part of life and social media today ..he actually lost his job over it..and has since done lots of related education and charity related work on the topic ....
People tend to not let these things go - as if no one learns by their mistakes ..That is very unhealthy .[/QUOTE
'Upon being appointed SFA Performance Director, Mackay said: "I apologised publicly and privately for the three texts to the two gentleman I spoke about. Then, for the last three years, I've been involved in diversity and equality meetings and been on an education to a point where I know more about it than anybody in this room." Does that suggest growth and contrition to you?
Or, does it scan like the defensive response of a man who wants to change the subject? He's "been on an education to a point where I know more about it than anybody in this room"? Congratulations. You had to be sent on a course to learn not to say things that everyone in the room already knew not to say. Well done on catching up with the rest of us. It's not something you lord over people.'
If racism is to be tackled seriously, there needs to be zero tolerance.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
What does that mean ? you are never allowed to work again ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Carheenlea
He also said Docherty will do well in his next 3-4 years at HibsQuote:
Originally Posted by hibby rae
You’ve misquoted him.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
He said he needs to (or he hopes) he has a good couple of years at Hibs.
What does that mean? We try to rehabilitate murders but draw the line at racism?Quote:
Originally Posted by Carheenlea
Speaking at the end of HIBS v Livingston
Efe has been AWOL
You don’t say?
Steven Thomson and Neil McCann both think he will be a good signing for Livvy
Both bigging up the big Scottish Cup tie coming up on Friday versus ICT
Live on BBC Scotland
Still no sign of Michael Stewart
Efe in Thomson’s Team of the Week?
Kamberi's goal was a screamer - but what annoys me is I can't remember the last time he put in the same effort in a Hibs shirt.
What was the game when there was a scout in the stand watching him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Dundee United away?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs
You also have to ask what the hell Scott Allan was doing for the Livi goal. Other players trying to close the Livi players down but Allan was rooted to the spot when if he'd read the pass could have been much, much closer.
Funnily enough he had an outstanding game for us when we last visited the Saintees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
He was probably still ruminating over giving possession away for the umpteenth time with the slack ball to Docherty that gifted possession for their goal in the first place. Stevenson has to try harder to stop the ball too but what are Boyle and Rocky doing. Rocky could have walked the 4 yards to the edge of his 6 yard box to collect the ball rather than diving out of the way of the flick. He must be putting soap on Bogdan's gloves in trainingQuote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
What was the boys celebration all about?
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
Would like to see Bogdan given a chance
Me to BH but do not see it in the next few games. Think JR missed a chance to play him against BSC.Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by roo62
Agree difficult to change Rocky now
I remember when Bogdan came in last time at the beginning he was dodgy until he found his feet then was excellent
We cannot afford a bedding in period with a Quarter Final coming up
I did not watch Sportscene and won't be again Michael Stewart seems to have been written out of history and replaced by someone more wooden than a gallows pole.
Pure ****.
You can have a go at Marciano for not saving it, he’s lost his bearings and presumably not expecting the attacker to get the touch, but to expect him to come for a cross that comes in at that angle and height would be criminal. The fault for the goal though is with the two wing backs, Stevenson takes control of the man and passes Slivka on, he simply has to get tighter and stop the cross, far too many times this season he has allowed crosses into our box. And Boyle gets caught wrong side and has too much ground to make up.Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
Some folk either have been brilliant goalies in their amateur career or they’re still traumatised by the goalies we’ve had over the last 20 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by May2116
I’ve got a boy near me who shouts “goalies” or “where’s the goalie” anytime the ball is near our box. On Saturday a cross field ball 20 yards out and he was shouting “goalies” - mental. It’s like he doesn’t know you can’t catch the ball outside the box and even if it was in the box I wouldn’t want him coming out that far.
Totally agree. Had the cross been made from the left back area down by the byline and ended up where it did I’d 100% expect him to take it, but the angle and trajectory that ball took, middle of the park to 7/8 yards out, low, flat cross, you can see rocky took a step forward and realised he’d get nowhere near it so thought better of it. Unfortunately we allowed the cross, we didn’t follow a runner and he got his angles wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs
Rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
He wasn't dodgy.
He was absolutely murder. I think I was bleating about him being 'the worst 'keeper we've ever had' (can't get much harsher criticism to be fair) or simply claiming 'he's never played in goals before' (which is nowhere near as harsh)
Somehow he morphed into an excellent shot stopper, and I think he commands his box and organises the defence a bit better than Rocky.
Look at the distance the scorer and Rocky have to travel at the point the cross is struck. Rocky about 4 yards the scorer about 10 and the Keeper has the advantage of his arm length too. If he reacted like the striker he would have caught it easily. As it is he ended up driving out of the way due to the scorers touch.Quote:
Originally Posted by May2116
The ball is always closer to the attacker than it is rocky. He comes racing out and one of the centre halves get a touch first then he’s made to look like an arse. No keeper in the world comes and takes that cross, simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
Slivka was at fault for the goal. He was sleeping and by the time he realised the Livi guy was going for the ball it was too late. As a team we allow opposing sides to pump crosses into our box unopposed and pay the penalty for it.
We lose very few goals from open play.
The was Boyle, Slivka followed the runner into the left back area after being passed on by Stevenson who failed to stop the cross.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman
Stopping crosses has been an issue for us and one of the reasons I’ve stuck up for our centre halves as they deal with about 10-15 crosses per game and deal with the majority, but at some point something will give and we lose goals from it.
I would argue he looked a bit of an arse the way he dealt with it. I'll look again at the distances as that wasn't my view. My point is that if the keeper commits he wins it easily. He ends up committing to the cross when it was likely the striker would get a touch and where he couldn't recoverQuote:
Originally Posted by May2116
There's also the development in ball technology. It's a lot harder to come and claim a modern ball because of the way it moves in the air. In the old days the old heavier ball trajectory was a lot easier to read, even in mental winds like we had on Saturday. Old codgers mumping from their FF vantage point don't always get that because they haven't played since the test card on telly was a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs
Enjoyed the longer highlights with the one postponed game giving more airtime to the others.
The bits in between were a hard watch though. Steven Thompson didn’t look that interested while Neil McCann is one of the dullest and least interesting commentator on Scottish football. Chronic.
Best bet would be for Jonathon Sutherland to present show himself, introduce the further extended highlights and post match interviews then sign off with a goodnight. More football and less clichéd chat.
Sutherland is not exactly Mr. Charisma himself is he, the program is dull and amateurish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carheenlea
I agree it didn’t look great as he lost his bearings, but it would be even worse if he ran 6/8 yards out his goal and got absolutely nowhere near it, at least doing what he did both he, and our right back still had a chance to deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
He can’t commit though, he doesn’t know where that ball is landing. Remember he isn’t positioned up in the stand to see exactly where it will land. From his viewpoint it’s a very low, flat cross, with a defender directly in front of him, until it’s past that defender he can’t move, by which time the attacker is a matter of yards away from the ball running onto it.
An attacker can gamble on that run, if he doesn’t make it then no harm done, he runs back into position. A goalkeeper can’t gamble on where the ball may end up.
McCann spends all his time trying to prove how knowledgeable he is in regards to everything football. Pity putting it into practice wasn't quite so easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carheenlea
Whatever system we employ has plusses & minuses. At present we're using 352 to allow us to have 2 strikers, Allan & Boyle in the same team. The downside is we lose some of Boyle's attacking flair & he's not a natural defender. For me Martin bears the greatest share of blame for the equaliser, quite simply he lost his man. I agree however that Stevenson & Slivka also bear some of the share of the blame. They stood off Lawless by about 5 yards while he shuffles ball onto his excellent left peg & crosses completely unchallenged. I couldn't see Omeonga standing off his man like that & to me if we're playing such an attacking formation we need Omeonga to help get the ball back. As for the keeper, I'm in the Bogdan camp but I think it would be stretching it to blame Rocky in any way for the Livi goal.
Apart from diving out the way of the ball 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
Nothing to do with Slivka, Lewis clearly passes the other man onto Slivka and takes charge of the man on the ball. He then fails to get tight enough to stop the cross.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
3rd rate weggie sh##e.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lago
Slivka all day long, he should have got to the ball before Livi player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
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Originally Posted by May2116
What, Slivka should have got to the ball BEFORE Livi player and there would be no cross into the box????
Possibly, but if he’s not quick enough then there’s not a lot he could do. The poster was questioning Slivka allowing a cross into the box when it wasn’t his job to stop that.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeerealist
They’re both to blame as there was a lack of intensity and urgency to get to the ball and make it difficult for Lawless. Both players have been guilty of this too oftenQuote:
Originally Posted by May2116
I said at the time, but would like to see it again, that Slivka could have done more to get to the ball before the Livi player. Nothing to do with pace and everything to do with lack of urgency and commitment. Lewis then should have got closer when switching markers and Boyle was caught the wrong side on the scorer. Not all one players fault but Slivka is notorious for jogging about and not making much effort unless the ball comes within feet of his own.
This is why I'd like to see Fraser Murray given a start in the absence of Newell.
Think that’s pretty fair, none of them got within 5 yards of Lawless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler Durden
For Slivka that was the story of the game as he gave Lawless the freedom of ER on Sat.
As for Rocky at the goal. Anyone who says he could have came for the cross is a bit confused as there was no way he could do so. But his positioning was absolutely awful, he ended up almost at the far post and basically left the goal wide open. So defo not blameless at all.
The ball was not rifled in and he had to move 4 yards to collect it. I agree his positioning was horrendous though and it was a typical Hibs concession with 4 players not doing their job well after another had given the ball away, again, very cheaply.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
So, although it was shown in the match highlights, no mention of the object thrown at the hearts keeper by the The Rangers fans. The BBC really are running scared
Our penalty should have been retaken, at least two Inverness players in the box before Hanlon kicked the ball.
Best thing about the rangers losing tonight.......Mickey Stewart being back on the BBC :greengrin
Good finish by the boy Ferguson for Aberdeen with the outside of his right foot into the top corner
Jim Goodwin said there was only one team trying to play football -no surprise there then
Lenny looked disappointed to have been drawn Aberdeen
Would not be surprised if Aberdeen go through on pens after all it is a science
Comedy defending by Mr Angry in the Hun goal for the Hearts goal 😂
He seemed subdued to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by DH1875
It’s all over the BBC web though. Write a letter.Quote:
Originally Posted by CentreLine
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Originally Posted by CentreLine
Extensive reporting on the BBC pages on the web not counting the live running commentary on the radio.
The goalie was off his line too. Or does that rule only apply in big tournaments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Oh. I must have missed the long analysis and condemnation of the the Rangers fans on Sportsound. How did it go?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby
A coconut has had more publicity than the The Rangers fans recently. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that lot to be criticised on that programme. Editorialy it seems that any incident not involving them gets full coverage, but never them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CentreLine
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Might have had more dramatic effect if Zlamal had done his usual dying swan act going down as if hit by a sniper from the stands to get stretchered off only to do his Lazarus act bounce to his feet and declare himself fit to continue after all
Then again I suppose it was only a two pence piece and not a one pound coin as originally reported
Hun cheapskates!
Looks like it was a Hanlon OG and not a Considine goal yesterday...
I really hope Underscore doesn't read this🙈Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSheep
I don't watch sportscene when we lose but I thought it was Jackson watching the game yesterday. ive been wrong many times before thoQuote:
Originally Posted by BlackSheep
Jackson did score an own goal... that was Aberdeen’s first...Quote:
Originally Posted by davym7062
But their second was given as a Considine goal... on Sportscene they showed a close up which looked like Hanlon poked it in before Considine.
ahhhhh me understand nooQuote:
Originally Posted by BlackSheep