The Sportscene Thread

[Northernhibee]

You also have to ask what the hell Scott Allan was doing for the Livi goal. Other players trying to close the Livi players down but Allan was rooted to the spot when if he'd read the pass could have been much, much closer.

[Golden Bear]

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Kamberi's goal was a screamer - but what annoys me is I can't remember the last time he put in the same effort in a Hibs shirt.

Funnily enough he had an outstanding game for us when we last visited the Saintees.

[wookie70]

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You also have to ask what the hell Scott Allan was doing for the Livi goal. Other players trying to close the Livi players down but Allan was rooted to the spot when if he'd read the pass could have been much, much closer.

He was probably still ruminating over giving possession away for the umpteenth time with the slack ball to Docherty that gifted possession for their goal in the first place. Stevenson has to try harder to stop the ball too but what are Boyle and Rocky doing. Rocky could have walked the 4 yards to the edge of his 6 yard box to collect the ball rather than diving out of the way of the flick. He must be putting soap on Bogdan's gloves in training

[greenlex]

What was the boys celebration all about?

[BILLYHIBS]

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He was probably still ruminating over giving possession away for the umpteenth time with the slack ball to Docherty that gifted possession for their goal in the first place. Stevenson has to try harder to stop the ball too but what are Boyle and Rocky doing. Rocky could have walked the 4 yards to the edge of his 6 yard box to collect the ball rather than diving out of the way of the flick. He must be putting soap on Bogdan's gloves in training

Would like to see Bogdan given a chance

[roo62]

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Would like to see Bogdan given a chance

Me to BH but do not see it in the next few games. Think JR missed a chance to play him against BSC.

[BILLYHIBS]

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Me to BH but do not see it in the next few games. Think JR missed a chance to play him against BSC.

Agree difficult to change Rocky now

I remember when Bogdan came in last time at the beginning he was dodgy until he found his feet then was excellent

We cannot afford a bedding in period with a Quarter Final coming up

[KingPat4]

I did not watch Sportscene and won't be again Michael Stewart seems to have been written out of history and replaced by someone more wooden than a gallows pole.

Pure ****.

[hibbysam]

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He was probably still ruminating over giving possession away for the umpteenth time with the slack ball to Docherty that gifted possession for their goal in the first place. Stevenson has to try harder to stop the ball too but what are Boyle and Rocky doing. Rocky could have walked the 4 yards to the edge of his 6 yard box to collect the ball rather than diving out of the way of the flick. He must be putting soap on Bogdan's gloves in training

You can have a go at Marciano for not saving it, he’s lost his bearings and presumably not expecting the attacker to get the touch, but to expect him to come for a cross that comes in at that angle and height would be criminal. The fault for the goal though is with the two wing backs, Stevenson takes control of the man and passes Slivka on, he simply has to get tighter and stop the cross, far too many times this season he has allowed crosses into our box. And Boyle gets caught wrong side and has too much ground to make up.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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You can have a go at Marciano for not saving it, he’s lost his bearings and presumably not expecting the attacker to get the touch, but to expect him to come for a cross that comes in at that angle and height would be criminal. The fault for the goal though is with the two wing backs, Stevenson takes control of the man and passes Slivka on, he simply has to get tighter and stop the cross, far too many times this season he has allowed crosses into our box. And Boyle gets caught wrong side and has too much ground to make up.

Some folk either have been brilliant goalies in their amateur career or they’re still traumatised by the goalies we’ve had over the last 20 years.

I’ve got a boy near me who shouts “goalies” or “where’s the goalie” anytime the ball is near our box. On Saturday a cross field ball 20 yards out and he was shouting “goalies” - mental. It’s like he doesn’t know you can’t catch the ball outside the box and even if it was in the box I wouldn’t want him coming out that far.

[hibbysam]

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Some folk either have been brilliant goalies in their amateur career or they’re still traumatised by the goalies we’ve had over the last 20 years.

I’ve got a boy near me who shouts “goalies” or “where’s the goalie” anytime the ball is near our box. On Saturday a cross field ball 20 yards out and he was shouting “goalies” - mental. It’s like he doesn’t know you can’t catch the ball outside the box and even if it was in the box I wouldn’t want him coming out that far.

Totally agree. Had the cross been made from the left back area down by the byline and ended up where it did I’d 100% expect him to take it, but the angle and trajectory that ball took, middle of the park to 7/8 yards out, low, flat cross, you can see rocky took a step forward and realised he’d get nowhere near it so thought better of it. Unfortunately we allowed the cross, we didn’t follow a runner and he got his angles wrong.

[oldbutdim]

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Agree difficult to change Rocky now

I remember when Bogdan came in last time at the beginning he was dodgy until he found his feet then was excellent

We cannot afford a bedding in period with a Quarter Final coming up

Rubbish.

He wasn't dodgy.




He was absolutely murder. I think I was bleating about him being 'the worst 'keeper we've ever had' (can't get much harsher criticism to be fair) or simply claiming 'he's never played in goals before' (which is nowhere near as harsh)

Somehow he morphed into an excellent shot stopper, and I think he commands his box and organises the defence a bit better than Rocky.

[wookie70]

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Totally agree. Had the cross been made from the left back area down by the byline and ended up where it did I’d 100% expect him to take it, but the angle and trajectory that ball took, middle of the park to 7/8 yards out, low, flat cross, you can see rocky took a step forward and realised he’d get nowhere near it so thought better of it. Unfortunately we allowed the cross, we didn’t follow a runner and he got his angles wrong.

Look at the distance the scorer and Rocky have to travel at the point the cross is struck. Rocky about 4 yards the scorer about 10 and the Keeper has the advantage of his arm length too. If he reacted like the striker he would have caught it easily. As it is he ended up driving out of the way due to the scorers touch.

[hibbysam]

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Look at the distance the scorer and Rocky have to travel at the point the cross is struck. Rocky about 4 yards the scorer about 10 and the Keeper has the advantage of his arm length too. If he reacted like the striker he would have caught it easily. As it is he ended up driving out of the way due to the scorers touch.

The ball is always closer to the attacker than it is rocky. He comes racing out and one of the centre halves get a touch first then he’s made to look like an arse. No keeper in the world comes and takes that cross, simple as that.

[Alfred E Newman]

Slivka was at fault for the goal. He was sleeping and by the time he realised the Livi guy was going for the ball it was too late. As a team we allow opposing sides to pump crosses into our box unopposed and pay the penalty for it.
We lose very few goals from open play.

[hibbysam]

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Slivka was at fault for the goal. He was sleeping and by the time he realised the Livi guy was going for the ball it was too late. As a team we allow opposing sides to pump crosses into our box unopposed and pay the penalty for it.
We lose very few goals from open play.

The was Boyle, Slivka followed the runner into the left back area after being passed on by Stevenson who failed to stop the cross.

Stopping crosses has been an issue for us and one of the reasons I’ve stuck up for our centre halves as they deal with about 10-15 crosses per game and deal with the majority, but at some point something will give and we lose goals from it.

[wookie70]

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The ball is always closer to the attacker than it is rocky. He comes racing out and one of the centre halves get a touch first then he’s made to look like an arse. No keeper in the world comes and takes that cross, simple as that.

I would argue he looked a bit of an arse the way he dealt with it. I'll look again at the distances as that wasn't my view. My point is that if the keeper commits he wins it easily. He ends up committing to the cross when it was likely the striker would get a touch and where he couldn't recover

[hibsbollah]

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Some folk either have been brilliant goalies in their amateur career or they’re still traumatised by the goalies we’ve had over the last 20 years.

I’ve got a boy near me who shouts “goalies” or “where’s the goalie” anytime the ball is near our box. On Saturday a cross field ball 20 yards out and he was shouting “goalies” - mental. It’s like he doesn’t know you can’t catch the ball outside the box and even if it was in the box I wouldn’t want him coming out that far.

There's also the development in ball technology. It's a lot harder to come and claim a modern ball because of the way it moves in the air. In the old days the old heavier ball trajectory was a lot easier to read, even in mental winds like we had on Saturday. Old codgers mumping from their FF vantage point don't always get that because they haven't played since the test card on telly was a thing.

[Carheenlea]

Enjoyed the longer highlights with the one postponed game giving more airtime to the others.

The bits in between were a hard watch though. Steven Thompson didn’t look that interested while Neil McCann is one of the dullest and least interesting commentator on Scottish football. Chronic.

Best bet would be for Jonathon Sutherland to present show himself, introduce the further extended highlights and post match interviews then sign off with a goodnight. More football and less clichéd chat.

[Lago]

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Enjoyed the longer highlights with the one postponed game giving more airtime to the others.

The bits in between were a hard watch though. Steven Thompson didn’t look that interested while Neil McCann is one of the dullest and least interesting commentator on Scottish football. Chronic.

Best bet would be for Jonathon Sutherland to present show himself, introduce the further extended highlights and post match interviews then sign off with a goodnight. More football and less clichéd chat.

Sutherland is not exactly Mr. Charisma himself is he, the program is dull and amateurish.

[hibbysam]

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I would argue he looked a bit of an arse the way he dealt with it. I'll look again at the distances as that wasn't my view. My point is that if the keeper commits he wins it easily. He ends up committing to the cross when it was likely the striker would get a touch and where he couldn't recover

I agree it didn’t look great as he lost his bearings, but it would be even worse if he ran 6/8 yards out his goal and got absolutely nowhere near it, at least doing what he did both he, and our right back still had a chance to deal with it.

He can’t commit though, he doesn’t know where that ball is landing. Remember he isn’t positioned up in the stand to see exactly where it will land. From his viewpoint it’s a very low, flat cross, with a defender directly in front of him, until it’s past that defender he can’t move, by which time the attacker is a matter of yards away from the ball running onto it.

An attacker can gamble on that run, if he doesn’t make it then no harm done, he runs back into position. A goalkeeper can’t gamble on where the ball may end up.

[JimBHibees]

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Enjoyed the longer highlights with the one postponed game giving more airtime to the others.

The bits in between were a hard watch though. Steven Thompson didn’t look that interested while Neil McCann is one of the dullest and least interesting commentator on Scottish football. Chronic.

Best bet would be for Jonathon Sutherland to present show himself, introduce the further extended highlights and post match interviews then sign off with a goodnight. More football and less clichéd chat.

McCann spends all his time trying to prove how knowledgeable he is in regards to everything football. Pity putting it into practice wasn't quite so easy.

[brog]

Whatever system we employ has plusses & minuses. At present we're using 352 to allow us to have 2 strikers, Allan & Boyle in the same team. The downside is we lose some of Boyle's attacking flair & he's not a natural defender. For me Martin bears the greatest share of blame for the equaliser, quite simply he lost his man. I agree however that Stevenson & Slivka also bear some of the share of the blame. They stood off Lawless by about 5 yards while he shuffles ball onto his excellent left peg & crosses completely unchallenged. I couldn't see Omeonga standing off his man like that & to me if we're playing such an attacking formation we need Omeonga to help get the ball back. As for the keeper, I'm in the Bogdan camp but I think it would be stretching it to blame Rocky in any way for the Livi goal.

[BILLYHIBS]

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Whatever system we employ has plusses & minuses. At present we're using 352 to allow us to have 2 strikers, Allan & Boyle in the same team. The downside is we lose some of Boyle's attacking flair & he's not a natural defender. For me Martin bears the greatest share of blame for the equaliser, quite simply he lost his man. I agree however that Stevenson & Slivka also bear some of the share of the blame. They stood off Lawless by about 5 yards while he shuffles ball onto his excellent left peg & crosses completely unchallenged. I couldn't see Omeonga standing off his man like that & to me if we're playing such an attacking formation we need Omeonga to help get the ball back. As for the keeper, I'm in the Bogdan camp but I think it would be stretching it to blame Rocky in any way for the Livi goal.

Apart from diving out the way of the ball 😂

[hibbysam]

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Whatever system we employ has plusses & minuses. At present we're using 352 to allow us to have 2 strikers, Allan & Boyle in the same team. The downside is we lose some of Boyle's attacking flair & he's not a natural defender. For me Martin bears the greatest share of blame for the equaliser, quite simply he lost his man. I agree however that Stevenson & Slivka also bear some of the share of the blame. They stood off Lawless by about 5 yards while he shuffles ball onto his excellent left peg & crosses completely unchallenged. I couldn't see Omeonga standing off his man like that & to me if we're playing such an attacking formation we need Omeonga to help get the ball back. As for the keeper, I'm in the Bogdan camp but I think it would be stretching it to blame Rocky in any way for the Livi goal.

Nothing to do with Slivka, Lewis clearly passes the other man onto Slivka and takes charge of the man on the ball. He then fails to get tight enough to stop the cross.

[vuefrom1875]

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Sutherland is not exactly Mr. Charisma himself is he, the program is dull and amateurish.

3rd rate weggie sh##e.

[hibeerealist]

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You also have to ask what the hell Scott Allan was doing for the Livi goal. Other players trying to close the Livi players down but Allan was rooted to the spot when if he'd read the pass could have been much, much closer.

Slivka all day long, he should have got to the ball before Livi player.

[hibeerealist]

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Nothing to do with Slivka, Lewis clearly passes the other man onto Slivka and takes charge of the man on the ball. He then fails to get tight enough to stop the cross.

What, Slivka should have got to the ball BEFORE Livi player and there would be no cross into the box????

[hibbysam]

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What, Slivka should have got to the ball BEFORE Livi player and there would be no cross into the box????

Possibly, but if he’s not quick enough then there’s not a lot he could do. The poster was questioning Slivka allowing a cross into the box when it wasn’t his job to stop that.

[Tyler Durden]

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Possibly, but if he’s not quick enough then there’s not a lot he could do. The poster was questioning Slivka allowing a cross into the box when it wasn’t his job to stop that.

They’re both to blame as there was a lack of intensity and urgency to get to the ball and make it difficult for Lawless. Both players have been guilty of this too often