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Do you mean snp scot gov or a long term critic of their drug policies. Do you mean supporter of Gulhane or she supported her getting stopping misinformation in one policy. I've never seen her say anything positive or negative about Scotland as a whole, I've only seen her comment on drug policy something she has fought years for.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
She's pro independence and a SNP member or at least was, but that isn't relevant to her opinion on drug policy.
https://x.com/msm_monitor/status/169...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
https://x.com/msm_monitor/status/169...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
Expert on radio this morning defending mup.
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https://news.stv.tv/scotland/record-...pment-scotland
Good news.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-66673971
Was this not supposed to be a Purely scottish problem?
Our problem was slightly different. Shoddy brickwork on PFI schools projects where wall ties between inner and outer leaf were missed or installed poorlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Scot government has offered to mediate between UK gov and BMA. Absolutely love that ha. The difference in offers
@DevanSinha
Gap between UK Gov position and Scot Gov-BMA agreement is 7% for 2022-2024 period. Or from 2010-24 gap is 11% given Scot Gov didn't freeze pay in nominal terms (larger real cut) but accepted prior yrs DDRB recommendations.
+ commitment to >inflation pay rises for next 3 yrs.
I like the reply to his tweet from some tory
@DraperOr
Move to Scotland, then.
@DevanSinha
7m
Unfortunately national training numbers for doctors are geographically locked. It's a captive labour market, not free. I can't move except w/ evidence of exceptional circumstances eg fam illness or childcare commitments. Once I finish training ie consultant will consider
Decent statement from Yousaf today. Would have liked them to have ditched the madness of rent controls but that will take care of itself in time as rents continue to rise because of it. Two other areas I would have liked to have heard more would be on reforming planning in order to boast housing. He admits this would work by saying he will reform planning for wind energy, so why not do the same for housing? Also, would have liked him to commit to a formal request for devolution of corporation tax. Would have been refused but would have been a powerful signal to business that we want to attract it to Scotland.
Childcare offer was excellent though and overall a good statement.
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Have you got a link to the details as all I can see is Scotland is going to offer free childcare to 2 year olds, England are going to offer to 9 months onwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The funding for each child will have to increase England is increasing the funding for 2 years old from £6.00 to £7.95. That's essential to get the nurseries to take on the kids
People are struggling to get funded spaces as it is in Edinburgh without the increase. Nurseries also mostly only accept 50 hours so 30 funded 20 you pay for, they can pick and choose who they take just now.
Definitely a great thing, if it's funded properly
https://www.gov.scot/publications/pr...isters-speech/Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Read that on twitter but no details. Thought they would have went from 9 months straight away, although they are trialling that. The funding per place being increased is what I'm interested in, but It'll be revealed soon enough. It's great the uk is catching up with the more progressive in Europe here thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Ta
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-sco...team=editorialQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
He says from 9 month until end of primary school.
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No in 6 areas it will be trialed for eligible kids from 9 months, in the other areas from 2. I'm more interested in the funding of places increase as it'll be immaterial without it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...ign_type=owned
More disappointment for the opposition.
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https://x.com/cllrscottarthur/status...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
If only we had a scheme for such things?[emoji849]
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Obviously glass bottles are getting returned for recycling without any 20p deposit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Just needs the colllection guys to get their ass in gear.
Just been round there and the bottles have now been collected but there is broken glass all over the car park.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
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Snp should focus on independence and the swing voters, it seems almost all efforts are on the already converted. Holyrood a bit better but Humza won't last mp numbers being decimated and a clear no lead in the polls next year.
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'No' leads by 5 points.
Scotland Independence Referendum Voting Intention (2–4 September):
No 49% (+1)
Yes 44% (-1)
Don't Know 6% (-1)
Changes +/- 5-6 August
SNP and Labour are TIED in Scotland!
Scotland Westminster VI (2-4 September):
SNP 35% (-2)
Labour 35% (+1)
Conservative 15% (-2)
Lib Dem 8% (+1)
Green 4% (+2)
Reform 2% (–)
Other 1% (–)
Changes +/- 5-6 August
Holyrood Regional List VI (2-4 September):
Labour 30% (–)
SNP 25% (-4)
Conservatives 15% (-3)
Green 14% (+5)
Lib Dems 9% (-1)
Alba 4% (+2)
Reform UK 3% (–)
Other 1% (–)
Holyrood Constituency VI (2-4 September):
SNP 39% (+3)
Labour 30% (-2)
Conservative 16% (-3)
Lib Dem 8% (–)
Green 3% (+1)
Reform 3% (+2)
Alba 1% (–)
Other 0% (–)
That would spell the end for Yousaf and usher in Stephen Flynn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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I'm confident it won't be this and I'm also confident SNP will do better closer to the election, but things need to start changing now. Election 12 months away and sleeping into a poor result.
ElectionMapsUK
My Seat Model (New Boundaries):
LAB: 28 (+27)
SNP: 18 (-30)
CON: 6 (=)
LDM: 5 (+3)
Changes w/ GE2019 Notional
It's been the same all over the city recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Between the end of the Festivals and the short term lets in Leith there were enough bottles around the bins to drain the Atlantic, normally you could only drain the North Sea!
https://x.com/alexwickham/status/170...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
Tories out to cut benefits again. Get ready for attacks on the SNP for not mitigating them.
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Any news on the charges against SNP leadership?
Apparently, according to the newspaper of note, the Herald, they've all been charged.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
I must have missed this.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F56cB39X...ebp&name=large
Snp vote on Tue to discuss Fergus Ewings fate. 3 line whip so unsure why the effort
"A YouGov survey gave Humza Yousaf's party an 11-point advantage over Labour and up two points since last month with 38% of voters supporting it. At the same time Labour fell five points to 27 per cent.
Under Westminster boundaries, this would mean the SNP winning 39 seats while Labour would return 11, a significant increase from the one the party has at present. The SNP holds 44 Westminster seats.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...p-bigger-lead/
It's one survey, so doesn't mean a lot in isolation. However it does suggest that some of the predictions of a Labour takeover in Scotland were a tad premature.
"...However, previous polls had suggested Labour could return 22 MPs with the SNP falling to 26. "
Sarwar can’t be kept of the airwaves forever. He will have to front Labour’s campaign knowing he’s not the actual leader and promoting policies he doesn’t actually believe in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Head to head I think Yousaf is better than him anyway but having to parrot policies he doesn’t believe in will be a significant handicap.
Labour will win the by-election but come a full campaign and I don’t think he will be able to match the SNP.
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The polling shows SNP would win Rutherglen. Labour are 1/12 on, so the bookmakers disagree. I'm sure snp will be ahead of Labour but a 10+ drop couldn't be painted as anything but a disaster. One year to go but will be interesting to see if other polls match going forward
The number of seats the SNP might lose at the next election will depend on the extent of tactical voting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Par for the course. In Rutherglen they've got a Labour candidate who didn't vote Labour in 2019.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I don’t think they have a chance in Rutherglen. Too early.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Rutherglen is also quite a 'staunch' Unionist area, so there will be quite a sizeable resistance to any party threatening to break their beloved Union.
3 days of school closures next week. A pain for parents but I support the workers. The best thing about the unfortunate strikes has been showing unions aren't dead. Hopefully a deal can be sorted in time
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...2ebtQdOF0W6BJ8
Good thing is the kids are doing their classes from home so it minimises the disruption a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Doesn't help the staff at my work having to take days off to look after kids. Classes from home don't kids need school. For some it's the only safe environment they have. Covid showed us it disproportionately effected kids that need the help the most. Effects less those lucky kids with their own bedroom and a nice desk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Hopefully they get their heads together and get a deal, I'm sure they will but hopefully soon
Watching Newsnight tonight, it appears that UK govt are cancelling the deposit return scheme that they are insisting that Scotland copy?
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There’s a lot more to this than just supporting the workers, I wish I could go into it in more depth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Well done to the Unions for continuing to stand up for their members. The employers have been getting off lightly for far too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
No issue with this from me despite it having a direct impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Too many people involved in educating our children are chronically underpaid and, as some of the comments when the teacher were out on strike showed, underappreciated.
The workers involved have my full support.
https://davidhumeinstitute.org/lates...hy-they-should
It doesn’t get talked about because it’s the SNP. A magnificent policy.
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I think there is a bit more at play here, especially with Unison, and if that’s the case then it’s certainly not a case of standing up for their members. Two of the three unions seem ready to reballot members.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
https://x.com/stvcolin/status/1705157185942999455?s=12
Good news.
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Could it be the Unison leader looking for publicity as she pushes for Labour nomination for WM? Not even taking the new offer to members is not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
Some very interesting comms coming out from Unite about this. Can't paste it in so I'll type the important bit. After explaining the new deal they go on to say
"Unfortunately our colleagues in Unison have taken the bizarre decision to continue with their strike action whike ballotingtheir members. This oresupposes that their members will follow their recommendation to reject the offer however if their members vote to accept then they will have to explain to those members why they have lost three days pay and pension contributions" They then go on to say "in the event that Unison continue with their strike action next week our members should attend work as normal with our GMB colleagues, unfortunately this could mean having to cross a picket line. If those on the picket line are unhappy with this then you should ask why they are on strike while their own union members may be voting to accept the deal"
And the Rutherglen and Hamilton West by-election.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
I also received a similar copy of the letter you’ve detailed above .. but the feeling for a while now is that Unison have been playing politics with their members wages in a Labour v SNP battle to try and make the Scottish government look bad in the run up to the Rutherglen by election.
I mentioned a few days ago that I had an insight into negotiations, and that there was more to it than met the eye. The letter from Unite pretty much confirms it, especially when they class the decision of Unison to pursue strike action as “bizarre”.
This is straight from Thatcher’s playbook of the early eighties. Union won’t settle? Question their motives and spin and smear them as being politically motivated rather than acting for the benefit of the workers. We’ve seen it before with the Glasgow bin workers strike where completely unfounded allegations were spread around as fact on social media as to why the workers were out.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
On Tuesday an extra £80 million appeared at the last minute that the employers said wasn’t there. It still falls far short of restoring workers pay to what it should have been after years of neglect. Well done to any Union staying out, they’ve been lied to enough already. And I would be saying the same thing no matter who the employer was.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1d8b49019b.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
It’s Unite who are attacking Unison.
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It's not an extra £80m though. It's been taken from other budgets. There is a finite budget for councils and the Scottish government. I would suggest that the fact that in Scotland we haven't seen too many strikes and that negotiations have been fairly amicable and that workers here are better off than their counterparts in other countries of the UK is nigh on miraculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Are the Unite leadership claiming that this is connected to the Unison leader wanting publicity for their Westminster bid? Or that it is connected to the Rutherglen by election ? That’s how it will be used, like I said, straight out of Thatcher’s playbook.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Or is it simply a leaked branch memo reflecting a difference of opinion on the way forward? It’s unfortunate in that it lets the employers and their supporters try and portray the Unions as divided. There are disagreements behind the scenes during any long running dispute. I have no problem with the curtain being lifted slightly at times. When some workers return and others stay out it does create difficult situations. Hopefully they are dealt with amicably.
I can only comment on what’s been happening during these negotiations, I can’t comment on Thatcher in the 80’s as I had only just been introduced to alcohol and had other priorities on my mind .. although dodging the poll tax was one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
It wasn’t there, and it still isn’t there. Every 1% above 2% is a £1m hit on local authority budgets, unless the Scottish Government subsidise (although that’s then a hit on their budget). It’s services that will probably take the biggest hit, and there may also be job losses.
I don’t like getting too political about this, probably because I still view myself as a socialist at heart and all for a proper wage (I voted against the Tories in PKC Leisure to keep the “real” living wage in place, despite the strains that this would then put on delivering Leisure services) but the way that Unison have carried out negotiations does have many asking questions about whether they had other motives.
That’s me out ..
When a union seems determined to strike even whil having an offer good enough to take back to their members then of course people are going to be questioning the motivations of the leadership.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Costing their own members wages next week when there is a potential resolution on the table is a very strange behaviour.
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Good luck to the striking Unison workers today and well done. The abuse that some of their officials have taken online from those more interested in protecting the employer has been pretty disgusting.
You don’t change sides depending on who that employer is. I hope they get plenty of support from everyone concerned at how workers have had to carry an unfair load for far too long.
I was in unison. My gripe is that the executive decided not to put it to the members, while Gmb and unite are. How do they know what the members want if they don't ask?Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Are unison working in their members best interests? If their members accept the offer then they have lost the best part of a weeks wages for nothing?Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
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Any news on the police investigation into SNP finances ...?
I've not been following this. Have UNISON put the revised offer to their members? If so, what was the result?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
They are putting to their members but results not back yet. Decided to strike anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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The Union membership voted overwhelmingly to strike in support of the demands being made. That action is being taken today.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
The COSLA offer fell short of what has been asked for so the democratically elected leadership are recommending the membership reject the deal and that will go to a digital ballot.
In the meantime the fight goes on and today has seen the membership take to the picket lines in large numbers.
Seems to me that Tommy Sheppard is going to lose his court case v the UK Gov about the release of Gov polling on the union.
Had a few friends out on strike today. Their only motive was to get what they deserve.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
These supporting workers play a huge part in educating our children and deserve to be paid and appreciated accordingly. Some of the rhetoric when discussing them is really poor. It's a sad day when I see people I know whoa re self proclaimed socialists trotting out the worst kind of Thatcherite anti union cliches because they don't like who Tue unions are fighting in this instance.
Unison members can apply for strike pay up to the value of £70. Shocking as it is that will represent the majority of a days pay for those on the 'living' wage of £10.42 an hour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
It's a catch 22 really. When you are expected to live on £10.42 an hour you can't afford to strike but then you can't afford not to strike either when pay rises have been below inflation for years on end.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-...kmdRGAWwqFe2cY
A trial DRS including bottles is live and working in Wales. Right scottish government, roll it out as originally planned because there is the proof that if it works in one part of the 'uk' then it will work in all parts of the 'uk'.
Scotlands national poet one of dozens of people in the arts hitting out at Scottish government cut in arts funding
https://twitter.com/KathleenJamie/st...41350126243952
A petition fighting it has reached 12,000 signatures
https://www.campaignforthearts.org/p...uts-reimposed/
I agree with her. Disappointed in SNP response here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Signed. Hopefully the funding is restored and Angus Robertson resigns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/1...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
How can NS get a fair hearing now? The PM has pronounced her guilty.
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Doesn't he have two fines from the police in the last few years, unlike NSQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Sunak said “ may go down “ . That’s hardly a pronouncement of guilt .Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Sure, that makes it OK, although I'm sure Rishi appreciates the support.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
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PF left in no doubt about what the PM wants from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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What is it again? Must be reeeaaaly bad for any politician in our free and wonderfully bestest nation to face stardy, given where the bar for non-investigation is set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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It was a really poor joke, the type that politicians of every party crack . Sad stuff. Anybody taking it seriously needs to give themselves a shake though.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/sunak-reported-to-police-over-conference-speech-comments-360110/?fbclid=IwAR0mQ2XLceczRHEWq4Zb8W98eULr0tdQvsjYKDSV JLxZ61UtBFi7_4OyrEM
This would be hilarious if found guilty.
Steven flynn getting in quick to say things need addressed
https://archive.ph/Z0JKS
Stephen Flynn says SNP must confront 'the scale of challenge' it faces
Stephen Flynn has called for a “full post mortem” into the SNP’s Rutherglen & Hamilton West by-election defeat, saying the party must be frank about the problems it faces.
The SNP’s Westminster leader said it would be unwise “to try and downplay the scale of the challenge that faces us as a result of this”.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-67021626
Yet another 'toxic' green party proposal which has cross party support. Waiting on Westminster blocking it 😉
Unlikely given we are the last UK nation to introduce this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Cherry odds on to get bombed this year? Pretty much constantly against, think she likes the trappings too much to join Alba
Joanna Cherry KC
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2h
The identity politics the party has been pursuing to fill the void in policy making have been very divisive. This was revealed during the campaign when SNP activists and councillors saw fit to picket outside a hustings focusing on women’s issues
She just needs to hang fire until Forbes is leader.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I think it will be Flynn. He’s in the wrong parliament but I think if he stands he wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
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How does he do it. I assumed wrongly last time he could just jump. Does he not contend next GE then go for Scottish. Whatever it is I hope it can be done smoothly. I very reluctantly wanted Forbes as I thought she wins most votes, but they are words apart in competence and beliefs for what I wantQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
One poll so useless on its own, only significant as its the lowest snp score in 9 years. It won't play out like that, but it's clear SNP haven't bottomed out in polls.
ElectionMapsUK
Scottish Westminster Voting Intention:
SNP: 33% (-5)
LAB: 32% (+5)
CON: 20% (+4)
LDM: 5% (-2)
GRN: 5% (-1)
RFM: 2% (-2)
Via
@YouGov
, 2-6 Oct
My Seat Model (New Boundaries):
LAB: 28 (+27)
SNP: 17 (-31)
CON: 8 (+2)
LDM: 4 (+2)
Changes w/ GE2019 Notionals
One of those polls I find difficult to believe. Who decides to change their vote to the lying Tories after their performance at conference? Incredible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Unfortunately that's 3 polls in a row in Scotland with a rise in the Tory vote, disgusting. Thankfully UK wide they have fallen after the conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
It's all over. Close down Holyrood, it's time for us all to go home.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8Eivo9X...pg&name=medium
I'm completely baffled by people. It's natural after this long in Government, the current cost of living crisis, Sturgeon under investigation etc that people will be turning away from the SNP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
But the Tories?? Totally bizarre, especially at a time when Labour are bending over backwards to appeal to Tory voters.
Humza reintroduces the council tax freeze!!!
Inevitable after Labour’s success in Rutherglen in attacking the rises in the top bands. If something doesn’t work electorally then it has to be dropped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
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Sorry oz but a promise to reform it was the best option for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
That's what you slam Labour for, pandering to voters. It's a poor idea when councils are struggling. It obviously needs reforming though and they have had over a decade to do itQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
He did that as well but I doubt it will happen. It can’t be reformed in isolation and as it’s one of very few taxes we have control over it just can’t be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
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Voters want it frozen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
It can’t be reformed without control over other tax powers.
My preference would be for all local funding to be devolved but it just can’t happen without permission from London.
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Not a fan of today’s announcements overall, especially the council tax freeze at a time when local authorities are completely skint. Edinburgh councils proposals for next year were as follows:
“ Under the proposals, people in Band E would pay 7.5 per cent more in council tax, those in Band F properties would see a 12.5 per cent increase, bills for Band G houses would rise by 17.5 per cent and Band H households would see the biggest rises at 22.5 per cent”.
Whilst a 7.5% rise as a band E owner wasn’t exactly what I wanted I completely agree with the need for councils to raise more tax and feel that adjusting the scales upwards in the proposed manner was the best way to go at the moment. Whilst I shouldn’t complain at not paying an extra £190 next year, when spit over 10 months I would much rather pay £19 a month than see our already screwed council make more cuts.
I work in East and Midlothian and can confirm that their councils are as cash strapped as ours and it’s probably fair to assume the issue is Scotland (and UK) wide.
2) 100 million for arts and culture over 5 years. Sorry but this just isn’t a priory for me when people are struggling to survive and the whole public sector is in turmoil. Money which should be spent elsewhere right now.
I’m on board with the rest of the plans which are
£500 million towards offshore wind power.
£500k towards domestic abuse victims.
£400k for high street developments
£300 million towards cutting NHS waiting lists.
The Gaza resettlement comments are a different political issue best left for another thread IMO.
I don’t understand the offshore bond idea enough to have an opinion. Hopefully someone on here can elaborate what this means in reality.
It can be and they said they would do it multiple times but that's a separate argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
It should have risen as it actually means a huge cut to councils due to inflation. I'd prefer a rise in higher bands personally.
When Starmer does stuff to get elected its terrible but Yousaf its just sensible to get elected.
Most Scots want to pay the same tax as England a poll showed this week. Should we lower it to match as Scots want it or do what's right
Not sure what your response means, perhaps too rushed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
They can reform the council tax though
"A council tax revaluation for homes in Scotland is urgently needed for child poverty targets to be met, an advisory commission has said.
The Poverty and Inequality Commission says it is one of a series of measures needed by the Scottish Government to improve the tax system.
But it has warned that SNP ministers have lacked "political will" to bring forward long-promised revaluation plans for council tax"
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...x-revaluation/
Older article-https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-30215510
Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has announced a commission to look at alternatives to the council tax.
Here, BBC Scotland's local government correspondent Jamie McIvor assesses some of the options.
Replacing the council tax has long been an SNP ambition but it has proved easier said than done.
In 2007, the party advocated replacing it with a "local income tax". In practice, this would have used Holyrood's power to raise income tax by 3p to help replace the money raised by council tax.
The parliament backed the idea of a local income tax but it proved impossible for the minority SNP administration to win enough support for its actual proposal.
Instead came the council tax freeze which survives to the present day and which the government expects to continue until 2017.
Those are two examples of failure to reform.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
Proper reform of council tax within the current devolved set up is very very difficult to do. Even if a way could be found, it would almost certainly be attacked in a way that burned through a lot of political capital. I think we can all agree the SNP do not have the political capital to spare just now.
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I don’t think we are anywhere close to Starmer levels of political shape shifting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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They have had plenty of capital in the last 12 years and said they could and would.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
They could easily have allowed the councils to raise it.
They are giving the councils huge cuts to help get voted in. If Labour did it SNP voters would rightly slam it
SNP back to "we're bad but were not as bad as..."Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
This is madness. Councils are toiling. Housing, homelessness services, drug services will all be effected. Its OK though as its good for votes
I’m not supportive of it. I was happy with the plan to raise the top bands. It wasn’t going to happen though because people don’t want it and it would have cost them the election.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
At which point, your out of power and still don’t have higher council tax. A lose lose for the SNP.
Labour campaigned against the rise in the higher council tax bands and they won. It would be madness not to recognise that. Fair play to Labour, they saw what people wanted and went with it. The SNP can’t carry on with a policy that will deliver a Labour govt at Holyrood. That puts at risk lots of other things we do here that Labour don’t do in Wales.
If you don’t win, it doesn’t really matter what your policy is. This change is backed by Labour and the Tories. The reason for that is people want it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Same energy when Starmer goes for policies that gets him in power. SNP could have raised it in the past when they had loads of capital.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
You didn't answer though. Should they lower taxes to the same as England as that's what the public want. Its obviously no as it will cause harm, this is the same.
Also the party has been focusing on policies for the last year that they public don't care about but lots hate like GRA.