(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I had a few posters giving it the big un on the main board on the World Cup thread when I said I wouldn’t return to the USA whilst he’s president. One of them even incredibly claimed that nothing has changed in America since he became president, although the poster revels in telling everyone how racist they and their pals are every time the Mackay discussion comes up so it’s not a huge surprise.

Honestly, **** America, **** the World Cup and **** travelling there whilst Trump is president.

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Yes I commented on that thread. A bit amazed that so many appear to be so blasé about the situation. How much crap needs to happen before they open their eyes?

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Originally Posted by Sylar

I’ve experienced the new administration first hand, with my appointment at a US University having been suddenly revoked. Institution were incredibly apologetic but it’s really disappointing.

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Sorry to read this mate

Speculation growing that the whole tariffs action is to get a 0 tariffs agreement with the EU. If that happens, then the UK might find itself outside looking in and very isolated.

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

Speculation growing that the whole tariffs action is to get a 0 tariffs agreement with the EU. If that happens, then the UK might find itself outside looking in and very isolated.

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White house just said any reports of pauses or 0% tariffs are "fake news". He's just said that if China don't back down on retaliatory tariffs by tomorrow then China will go from 34% to 50%

The last thing he wants are 0% tariffs and a bigger deficit, he wants no trade deficit. In his head selling goods for currency to a nation is him getting robbed, he's been going on about trade deficits since the 80s.

The only people the tariffs will hurt are the American public and nations that do retaliatory tariffs are just hurting their own public. That goes for every nation bar China, who are winning internationally from any trade wars. They should try and get lots of 0% deals in place in the meantime

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

Speculation growing that the whole tariffs action is to get a 0 tariffs agreement with the EU. If that happens, then the UK might find itself outside looking in and very isolated.

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I would love to see the brexiteers reaction to this.

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

Speculation growing that the whole tariffs action is to get a 0 tariffs agreement with the EU. If that happens, then the UK might find itself outside looking in and very isolated.

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I have a vested interest because I have a house in France and for the last few days I’ve been astonished at how far the pound has fallen against the euro.

Initially the pound jumped when the tariffs were announced especially as Europe is 20% and UK 10%.

Maybe this is the reason why.

Britain is in a very perilous state, although I think the rumours wil probably have came from Musk saying there should be synergy between Europe and USA.

Whether musk and trump are still besties is another subject

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Originally Posted by Hibs4185

I have a vested interest because I have a house in France and for the last few days I’ve been astonished at how far the pound has fallen against the euro.

Initially the pound jumped when the tariffs were announced especially as Europe is 20% and UK 10%.

Maybe this is the reason why.

Britain is in a very perilous state, although I think the rumours wil probably have came from Musk saying there should be synergy between Europe and USA.

Whether musk and trump are still besties is another subject

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Wonder what the pound was at in 2014 when we were threatened with the Euro if we voted Yes?


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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

White house just said any reports of pauses or 0% tariffs are "fake news". He's just said that if China don't back down on retaliatory tariffs by tomorrow then China will go from 34% to 50%

The last thing he wants are 0% tariffs and a bigger deficit, he wants no trade deficit. In his head selling goods for currency to a nation is him getting robbed, he's been going on about trade deficits since the 80s.

The only people the tariffs will hurt are the American public and nations that do retaliatory tariffs are just hurting their own public. That goes for every nation bar China, who are winning internationally from any trade wars. They should try and get lots of 0% deals in place in the meantime

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The Donald needs to hold firm and get those extra 50% tariffs placed on China. And we need the EU to get there response out there now for him to go higher again. Americans need to feel real pain.


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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Wonder what the pound was at in 2014 when we were threatened with the Euro if we voted Yes?


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https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/history/GBP-EUR-2014

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https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/history/GBP-EUR-2014

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So we would have been better off? [emoji106]


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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

The Donald needs to hold firm and get those extra 50% tariffs placed on China. And we need the EU to get there response out there now for him to go higher again. Americans need to feel real pain.


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I'm happy for them to feel it but unfortunately it will cause a worldwide recession like 2008. That recession caused an extra 97 million people worldwide to go into hunger. Such is the capitalist system, millions worldwide will die from this and Trump will still be playing golf

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

I'm happy for them to feel it but unfortunately it will cause a worldwide recession like 2008. That recession caused an extra 97 million people worldwide to go into hunger. Such is the capitalist system, millions worldwide will die from this and Trump will still be playing golf

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All that is true but we really need Americans to get back to valuing democracy and their fellow democratic allies. The consequences of not could be even higher.
And a side benefit is the tanking oil price will be killing Russia.

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

All that is true but we really need Americans to get back to valuing democracy and their fellow democratic allies. The consequences of not could be even higher.
And a side benefit is the tanking oil price will be killing Russia.

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Only positive is that the rest of the world will surely realise we can't depend on one nations for defence, trade, supply lines etc. Europe should have been self protected years ago.

The Russian economy has taken a pounding the last few days crude now at the lowest point in 5 years.

I see some politicians are already trying to use this to bump net zero. Starmer pushing back dates on hybrids etc is calculated and pathetic

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

All that is true but we really need Americans to get back to valuing democracy and their fellow democratic allies. The consequences of not could be even higher.
And a side benefit is the tanking oil price will be killing Russia.

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I agree. There is no good option here, that protects the innocent citizens affected by this and curtails the US government's mobster-extortion approach to the economy and geopolitics. They need stopped, and it needs to happen quickly before it gets even worse and more dangerous.

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

Only positive is that the rest of the world will surely realise we can't depend on one nations for defence, trade, supply lines etc. Europe should have been self protected years ago.

The Russian economy has taken a pounding the last few days crude now at the lowest point in 5 years.

I see some politicians are already trying to use this to bump net zero. Starmer pushing back dates on hybrids etc is calculated and pathetic

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The President of the United States, dear lord

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The United States has a chance to do something that should have been done DECADES AGO. Don’t be Weak! Don’t be Stupid! Don’t be a PANICAN (A new party based on Weak and Stupid people!). Be Strong, Courageous, and Patient, and GREATNESS will be the result!

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The President of the United States, dear lord

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The United States has a chance to do something that should have been done DECADES AGO. Don’t be Weak! Don’t be Stupid! Don’t be a PANICAN (A new party based on Weak and Stupid people!). Be Strong, Courageous, and Patient, and GREATNESS will be the result!

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Some interesting replies

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

White house just said any reports of pauses or 0% tariffs are "fake news". He's just said that if China don't back down on retaliatory tariffs by tomorrow then China will go from 34% to 50%

The last thing he wants are 0% tariffs and a bigger deficit, he wants no trade deficit. In his head selling goods for currency to a nation is him getting robbed, he's been going on about trade deficits since the 80s.

The only people the tariffs will hurt are the American public and nations that do retaliatory tariffs are just hurting their own public. That goes for every nation bar China, who are winning internationally from any trade wars. They should try and get lots of 0% deals in place in the meantime

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Well if the Whitehouse are saying it's "Fake News" then that's that theory scuppered.

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

Well if the Whitehouse are saying it's "Fake News" then that's that theory scuppered.

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Didn't the EU offer Trump 0% tariffs last time round and he turned them down? Who's speculating that he wants that now?
I'll be amazed if he has a coherent plan like that.
Children with measles are dying in America.

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

Well if the Whitehouse are saying it's "Fake News" then that's that theory scuppered.

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There's also that there is zero chance Trump wants 0% tariffs on the EU when that would exasperate the fake problem he has in a trade deficit. He said yesterday “We put a big tariff on Europe. They are coming to the table; they want to talk, but there’s no talk unless they pay us a lot of money on a yearly basis—not just for the present, but also for the past"

He thinks the EU owes them for every year there was a deficit and wants to bring it as close to even or preferably surplus. It's so daft

Where's the Washington Post when an evil lying president and his collaborators and enablers need called out?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f73a737e45.jpg

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Where's the Washington Post when an evil lying president and his collaborators and enablers need called out?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f73a737e45.jpg

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The opinion and editorial pieces in the Washington post are almost universally negative to Trump and his administration.
Even the Bezos decision for the paper to not endorse a candidate in the election was panned by all the contributing opinion pieces as well as being criticised by the editorial board.
The tv news media in the US is awful across the political spectrum but I think they have some excellent newspapers.

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Originally Posted by Off the bar

The opinion and editorial pieces in the Washington post are almost universally negative to Trump and his administration.
Even the Bezos decision for the paper to not endorse a candidate in the election was panned by all the contributing opinion pieces as well as being criticised by the editorial board.
The tv news media in the US is awful across the political spectrum but I think they have some excellent newspapers.

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I agree with you, I was alluding to the Post doing what it did to Nixon.



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[QUOTE=Bostonhibby;7932470]I agree with you, I was alluding to the Post doing what it did to Nixon.


That would require a functioning congress and Republican Party prepared to impeach him when presented with the evidence. The fact they whitewashed the Jan 6th stuff and didn’t impeach him on that let him know he could do whatever the **** he wants.
The New York Times had that 8 page pull out special during his first term which detailed in indisputable detail the various frauds (mortgage and tax) his business empire was built on. It made no difference.
It doesn’t matter what any journalist digs up now because the US is truly post truth and the MAGA lot will just call it fake news and a witch hunt and it’ll make no difference.

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

I agree with you, I was alluding to the Post doing what it did to Nixon.


That would require a functioning congress and Republican Party prepared to impeach him when presented with the evidence. The fact they whitewashed the Jan 6th stuff and didn’t impeach him on that let him know he could do whatever the **** he wants.
The New York Times had that 8 page pull out special during his first term which detailed in indisputable detail the various frauds (mortgage and tax) his business empire was built on. It made no difference.
It doesn’t matter what any journalist digs up now because the US is truly post truth and the MAGA lot will just call it fake news and a witch hunt and it’ll make no difference.

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Yep, he's neutered the democratic checks and balances whilst taking autocratic control at the same time as surrounding himself with inadequate weirdos who are promoted way above their ability and intellect.

An enormous cult like following hanging on his every nonsensical word.

Not dissimilar to where Hitler was around 1934-5.

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Originally Posted by Off the bar

Yep, he's neutered the democratic checks and balances whilst taking autocratic control at the same time as surrounding himself with inadequate weirdos who are promoted way above their ability and intellect.

An enormous cult like following hanging on his every nonsensical word.

Not dissimilar to where Hitler was around 1934-5.

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Agree with all of that, it is truly a ***** state of affairs.

I used to enjoy going to the US for work and pleasure but I won’t go back until there’s change there. It’s absolute madness that the worst possible, least qualified people are in charge of everything that’s left.


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Ok. I’m shaking. This is my first thread. My small business that I’ve had for 20 years is probably dead as of now. Trump and his idiotic tariffs killed my livelihood, my families business today.
Just now, I got a small shipment via UPS of products my customers are waiting for.

…A small box. A small box of stuff that can’t be made in the USA because we don’t have the materials here.
The tariff bill I have to pay the US government is $5,000.
$5000 needs to be paid up front. How can I stay in business unless I jack up prices now? As a small business I’ve always prided myself on giving …great customer service and lowest possible prices. This is NOT sustainable.
NOT ONE economist says tariffs will be good for the country. If me, an average American is already feeling this and will have to possibly shut my business of 20 years…then I know we are ALL in danger of a collapsing economy.

…All for a vanity act of a narcissistic president that knows nothing about business.
America will be his 7th bankruptcy.
No, I didn’t vote for him. I knew this would end badly in 2016 when he came down that golden elevator in Trump tower. A TV reality star that was playing a role. An act. An unserious man, a felon and a SAer.

…I know I’m writing into a void, none of my post are ever read…but thanks Threads, I needed to vent.
And…if you own a small business, don’t order products from oversees anymore until you jack up your prices to cover your losses. I’m sorry for my loyal customers, some have been with me for 20 years and I love them all. TARIFFS ARE A TAX ON US ALL!
Time to buckle up.

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Ok. I’m shaking. This is my first thread. My small business that I’ve had for 20 years is probably dead as of now. Trump and his idiotic tariffs killed my livelihood, my families business today.
Just now, I got a small shipment via UPS of products my customers are waiting for.

…A small box. A small box of stuff that can’t be made in the USA because we don’t have the materials here.
The tariff bill I have to pay the US government is $5,000.
$5000 needs to be paid up front. How can I stay in business unless I jack up prices now? As a small business I’ve always prided myself on giving …great customer service and lowest possible prices. This is NOT sustainable.
NOT ONE economist says tariffs will be good for the country. If me, an average American is already feeling this and will have to possibly shut my business of 20 years…then I know we are ALL in danger of a collapsing economy.

…All for a vanity act of a narcissistic president that knows nothing about business.
America will be his 7th bankruptcy.
No, I didn’t vote for him. I knew this would end badly in 2016 when he came down that golden elevator in Trump tower. A TV reality star that was playing a role. An act. An unserious man, a felon and a SAer.

…I know I’m writing into a void, none of my post are ever read…but thanks Threads, I needed to vent.
And…if you own a small business, don’t order products from oversees anymore until you jack up your prices to cover your losses. I’m sorry for my loyal customers, some have been with me for 20 years and I love them all. TARIFFS ARE A TAX ON US ALL!
Time to buckle up.

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Feel very sorry for this person.

Many decent Americans will be victims here but the orange fuhrer won't care about this one as he didn't vote for him so isn't one of his foot soldiers.

Hopefully many of his voters and supporters will have their equivalent experience too.

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Feel very sorry for this person.

Many decent Americans will be victims here but the orange fuhrer won't care about this one as he didn't vote for him so isn't one of his foot soldiers.

Hopefully many of his voters and supporters will have their equivalent experience too.

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Feel sorry for those that didn’t vote for him but not for a single person who did. They need to feel the full force. They knew it was going to be very bad for some people and were happy so long as it wasn’t them. Now it’s them and they fully deserve what’s coming.


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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Feel sorry for those that didn’t vote for him but not for a single person who did. They need to feel the full force. They knew it was going to be very bad for some people and were happy so long as it wasn’t them. Now it’s them and they fully deserve what’s coming.


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Absolutely zero sympathy for anybody that voted for Trump. As you say, a vote for Trump was very clearly a big **** you to the people it was going to **** over. So many of them were just too stupid to see they were part of that group.

If you voted for Trump, you are everything that is wrong with humanity.

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Feel sorry for those that didn’t vote for him but not for a single person who did. They need to feel the full force. They knew it was going to be very bad for some people and were happy so long as it wasn’t them. Now it’s them and they fully deserve what’s coming.


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Yep, classic Nazi Party tactics, divide and rule, create hate targets and hide your real agenda, in this case it feels like there are very few boundaries and it's a cult of "self".

It is so poorly planned that there's no way Trump supporters aren't going to be affected, it comes down to how many of them aren't able to see it, or admit it. He might still be shooting very thick fish in a giant barrel.

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I know it would be nigh on impossible, but has there ever been a calculation of what a completely American made iPhone or something similar (or at least as much as humanly possible) would cost if it was completely built in the states? From the building of the factories, manufacturing, labour etc, it would be an interesting calculation.

If we use an iPhone as an example, they cost about $1300 right now I think. Would it be an exaggeration to suggest they’d have to increase in price to about $15000?

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I know it would be nigh on impossible, but has there ever been a calculation of what a completely American made iPhone or something similar (or at least as much as humanly possible) would cost if it was completely built in the states? From the building of the factories, manufacturing, labour etc, it would be an interesting calculation.

If we use an iPhone as an example, they cost about $1300 right now I think. Would it be an exaggeration to suggest they’d have to increase in price to about $15000?

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It's a great question.

Cleverer people than me were talking yesterday about how the Americans will either have to work for the same wages as the Vietnamese, Chinese and Mexicans or pay sky high prices for similar products to maintain wage expectation in the States. And that's before you factor in available skills.

And all this whilst they are hounding out potential "foreign" labour and seeing favourable trade deals being struck between countries they have hit with tariffs.

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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I know it would be nigh on impossible, but has there ever been a calculation of what a completely American made iPhone or something similar (or at least as much as humanly possible) would cost if it was completely built in the states? From the building of the factories, manufacturing, labour etc, it would be an interesting calculation.

If we use an iPhone as an example, they cost about $1300 right now I think. Would it be an exaggeration to suggest they’d have to increase in price to about $15000?

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I was listening to an American economist yesterday and he used the iPhone production as an example to demonstrate the cost of US vs Chinese manufactured. He said $20000 was not an unreasonable estimate. Mental.

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I was listening to an American economist yesterday and he used the iPhone production as an example to demonstrate the cost of US vs Chinese manufactured. He said $20000 was not an unreasonable estimate. Mental.

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I saw a figure of £30000 quoted.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2...it-in-america/

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Originally Posted by tamig

I was listening to an American economist yesterday and he used the iPhone production as an example to demonstrate the cost of US vs Chinese manufactured. He said $20000 was not an unreasonable estimate. Mental.

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Maybe the orange guy is going to solve it with bleach, or get all those penguins visas?

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Thanks all. That truly is an unbelievable thought, and that’s just one item. Throw in TVs, vehicles, furniture, car parts and a million and one other things and the numbers become absolutely insane.

I saw an explanation regarding a tangerine and even the description around the price of that was mental. Things like the nets you buy them in, the labels, the transportation of them, the tractors that they are moved around in, the warehouses they’re stored in, the shops that are built to sell them and lots of other bits and pieces that would all sky rocket in price.

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I saw a figure of £30000 quoted.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2...it-in-america/

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That article is 7 years old.

Here's one that is more recent.

https://nypost.com/2025/04/06/us-new...ces-over-2000/

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

the Americans will either have to work for the same wages as the Vietnamese, Chinese and Mexicans

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Maybe the US could pop back to an old system they had there where some of the population didn't get paid at all for the work they did? :dunno:

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That article is 7 years old.

Here's one that is more recent.

https://nypost.com/2025/04/06/us-new...ces-over-2000/

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Is it not two different things though? That article is the cost of you pay the tariffs? I thought it was for a 100% US made iPhone.


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A bit of infighting happening now.


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Maybe the US could pop back to an old system they had there where some of the population didn't get paid at all for the work they did? :dunno:

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Slowly, slowly, the orange guys vision has only just begun to become reality, he'll invent plenty more super policy, just as soon as people keep telling him........

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A bit of infighting happening now.


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Who to back? Rudolf Hess or Herman Goering?

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

Who to back? Rudolf Hess or Herman Goering?

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Got to be a cage fight to decide, surely? :dunno:

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Got to be a cage fight to decide, surely? :dunno:

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The Musk Rat has form right enough.

"America's richest and most cowardly man, Musk, proposed an idiotic fight, then came up with every excuse not to really do it".

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Maybe the US could pop back to an old system they had there where some of the population didn't get paid at all for the work they did? :dunno:

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I'm sure he'd consider it, if he hasn't already.

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Is it not two different things though? That article is the cost of you pay the tariffs? I thought it was for a 100% US made iPhone.


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Yeah, you're right.

The "cost with tariffs" isn't nearly as scary as the other one.

Quite apart from the upfront costs in setting up a production facility in the US, the profit margins at that price will be so slim as to make it uneconomic. Would-be manufacturers would also be wary of the fact that there might be a change in Government, and policy, in a few years' time.

IMO, people and businesses who can afford it will suck up the price-increases for now; others will hold off upgrading.

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Is it not two different things though? That article is the cost of you pay the tariffs? I thought it was for a 100% US made iPhone.


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Yeah, that's one of the reasons why tariffs might not work as well as Trump seems to think, unless Apple shift the manufacturing for the entire worlds supply of iphones to the US, the cost of manufacturing a 100% US made iphone is likely to be much higher than just getting one from China and paying the additional tariff on it.

For reference, there's an interesting video on youtube detailing the costs involved in making somebody's dream phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bny2NJkJGXc
which gives a rough idea of the cost of making a phone from scratch. The cost of an iphone would clearly be much less as this is a one off, but it does give you an idea of the costs involved in setting up new tooling lines and assembly lines.

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Yeah, you're right.

The "cost with tariffs" isn't nearly as scary as the other one.

Quite apart from the upfront costs in setting up a production facility in the US, the profit margins at that price will be so slim as to make it uneconomic. Would-be manufacturers would also be wary of the fact that there might be a change in Government, and policy, in a few years' time.

IMO, people and businesses who can afford it will suck up the price-increases for now; others will hold off upgrading.

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My current iPhone is over 5 years old and I’m hoping to get a few more months out of it although the speaker is deteriorating on it now and I’m switching to Samsung after seeing the Apple boss standing with Trump at his inauguration.


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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

Maybe the orange guy is going to solve it with bleach, or get all those penguins visas?

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You would think that amazing guy Elon could come up with a super duper phone for half the price.

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You would think that amazing guy Elon could come up with a super duper phone for half the price.

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He can if he can make it outside America, and do a tariff free deal with China.

Maybe someone should whisper it in the orange guy's ear? People are always telling him they don't want to pay more for everything.

They might get a super deal from a super deal maker.

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Maybe the US could pop back to an old system they had there where some of the population didn't get paid at all for the work they did? :dunno:

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I’m sure it will get to that point again

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My current iPhone is over 5 years old and I’m hoping to get a few more months out of it although the speaker is deteriorating on it now and I’m switching to Samsung after seeing the Apple boss standing with Trump at his inauguration.


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US citizens won't have that as much of an option, of course. High-end Samsungs are made in Vietnam. (46% on that Liberation Day scale....)

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US citizens won't have that as much of an option, of course. High-end Samsungs are made in Vietnam.

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Owning a phone shop in Hamilton Ontario is likely to become very profitable if these tariffs hold(I don’t think they will).


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Owning a phone shop in Hamilton Ontario is likely to become very profitable if these tariffs hold(I don’t think they will).


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My best mate lives in Toronto, and of course he's pleading with all of us over here to boycott anything US.

So I bought something recently, which originated in Ontario. I proudly sent him a photo of the box.......

"That's Ontario, California.......prick".

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My best mate lives in Toronto, and of course he's pleading with all of us over here to boycott anything US.

So I bought something recently, which originated in Ontario. I proudly sent him a photo of the box.......

"That's Ontario, California.......prick".

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200% tariffs on inappropriate apostrophes, please.

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United States Secretary of Homeland Security, today.

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Meanwhile 12% has been wiped out both my pension fund and investment ISA.
At this rate I’ll be a pauper by July.

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United States Secretary of Homeland Security, today.

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It truly is a real-life caricature. The whole thing. How long will it take the people to wake up to what is going on? There must be something in their water 🙄

$10Trillion lost on stock market since the tariffs were applied but the rich can't afford to be taxed more. [emoji848]

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It truly is a real-life caricature. The whole thing. How long will it take the people to wake up to what is going on? There must be something in their water 🙄

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https://www.politico.eu/article/keir...-services-tax/

This man is a disgrace.


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Today's EO says that America's energy is going to be unleashed, and trying to enforce hippy environmental nonsense is hereby outlawed...


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NEW: Trump's latest executive order declares state climate change policies "illegal and unconstitutional."

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Frack baby frack I think he said?

Not that it's required but yet more proof that this term is very much about the orange making it up on the hoof so long as he can do one of those big fancy signatures.

When he's gone who they gonna blame?

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Frack baby frack I think he said?

Not that it's required but yet more proof that this term is very much about the orange making it up on the hoof so long as he can do one of those big fancy signatures.

When he's gone who they gonna blame?

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Trans people.


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And there is a big bond sell off going on at same time. The opposite usually happens. Interest rates globally likely to rise. US could be facing a banking crisis.

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And there is a big bond sell off going on at same time. The opposite usually happens. Interest rates globally likely to rise. US could be facing a banking crisis.

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They do like a good banking crisis, those in the know know when to divest and the rest (in their red hats) will be caught in the crossfire Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac style wondering how it all happened.

Agent Orange will blame Joe Biden.

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https://cleantechnica.com/2025/04/05...nse-cleantech/

"Now the reckoning is here, and it’s being administered by a country [China] that understands resource leverage the way a tiger understands a sheep."

Lovely quote.

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"Now the reckoning is here, and it’s being administered by a country [China] that understands resource leverage the way a tiger understands a sheep."

Lovely quote.

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Good article. Wonder how a tiger understands a simpleton with a gun.

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Trump ****s the bed except it’s still bad with China now up to 125% and everyone else at 10%.


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Trump blinked first, sanctions postponed for 90 days apart from China.

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NOBODY will question Dictator Trump or that Drunk Hegseth

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Guess that means all the rich folk have managed to buy the dip.

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An actual Military man somewhere, not a 5 times draft dodger or Hesgeth, probably told him they couldn't fight the penguins he'd threatened without all the chinese stuff they are, let's, face dependent on, and in some cases, don't have much of a plan B for once Agent Orange has brain farted.

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Guess that means all the rich folk have managed to buy the dip.

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Yep, Trump and his mega rich pals have just filled their pockets even more.

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An actual Military man somewhere, not a 5 times draft dodger or Hesgeth, probably told him they couldn't fight the penguins he'd threatened without all the chinese stuff they are, let's, face dependent on, and in some cases, don't have much of a plan B for once Agent Orange has brain farted.

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Yes but as he says in his post, those days is no longer sustainable. I hope he goes all the way with his economic revolution. Not just have Americans building iphones in America, but have each iphone built by a single person. That Adam Smith with his division of labour, what did he know, foreigner wasn't he?

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Yes but as he says in his post, those days is no longer sustainable. I hope he goes all the way with his economic revolution. Not just have Americans building iphones in America, but have each iphone built by a single person. That Adam Smith with his division of labour, what did he know, foreigner wasn't he?

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Apparently "shat" is trending.

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Apparently "shat" is trending.

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Shat doesn't show on an orange person

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With trade between the US and China now coming to a halt, will the Chinese start repatriating their money?


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They do like a good banking crisis, those in the know know when to divest and the rest (in their red hats) will be caught in the crossfire Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac style wondering how it all happened.

Agent Orange will blame Joe Biden.

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You called it, he's babbling on live now about how it's all Biden's fault.

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Yep, Trump and his mega rich pals have just filled their pockets even more.

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The big hitters ending the day double figure % in the green.

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Just watching the news and Starmer claiming that his cool and calm approach has paid off? How does he come to that opinion when we are still on 10% same as before and it’s the Europeans who retaliated who got a reduction? Am I missing something?


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Just watching the news and Starmer claiming that his cool and calm approach has paid off? How does he come to that opinion when we are still on 10% same as before and it’s the Europeans who retaliated who got a reduction? Am I missing something?


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Talking a lot and doing nothing to upset Agent Orange and probably thinking we got luckier than most, by sheer fluke, is pathetic on our part.

We don't have much of a hand to play being a very small trading bloc and largely irrelevant in other areas but fawning over this toxic version of the U S leaves a bad taste. I've got my doubts about Starmer's ability in a crisis.

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I am 100% convinced this was a deliberate ploy from Trump and the rest of the Oligarchy to short the stock market.

I would love someone to do an analysis on trading, what was bought and when, and then what it was subsequently sold for.

The same thing happened with tariffs a few weeks ago.

Did anyone buy the dip ?

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She was a woman in the navy. There's no room for women in the armed forces.

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She was a woman in the navy. There's no room for women in the armed forces.

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Unless they are that very sinister head of homeland "security" figure?

Maybe a token appointment since we now know so much of their security depends on when China decided to turn on and off supply of those pesky defence related exports that Maga's ain't got and can't produce for themselves.

****wits doesn't cover it.

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