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Small teams like Hearts quicker entrance into the Premier League.Quote:
Originally Posted by munchar
Can’t quite believe Budge is taking charge of reconstruction ideas. My neighbour would have a better idea how to improve Scottish football.
Scottish football is a laughing stock at times.
They would need at the very least 75% of the top league to vote this through and it would simply never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
It’s a token gesture. They have Les Gray also advising why it’s a shan idea nobody wants apart from hearts because they are going down. Do you not think Gray will know Budge wouldn’t give a **** about this had Hamilton been bottom?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenCastle
If they are talking about restructuring the top league am I right in saying it would only be the current teams in the Premiership that would get to vote and that vote would be subject to the 11-1 required majority?
Or are we looking at all four leagues?
Yes. Unless they change the rulesQuote:
Originally Posted by Sweet Left Peg
Yup...pass the popcornQuote:
Originally Posted by Sweet Left Peg
How long before Budge delegates the task to Craig Levein? It's going to happen
Like Celtic and Rangers would allow something which mean they can't always vote down things that aren't in their shared interestsQuote:
Originally Posted by Since452
If Hearts put forward a proposal that says them and ICT take no prize money next season then I can see it being approved.Quote:
Originally Posted by munchar
Bottom half of the table get more games so make more money and no difference to everyone else. Sky happy as they get an Edinburgh derby.
Hearts and ICT get no prize money but would still be better off in top league.
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There is no way Hearts would vote for it if they weren't facing relegation. Its desperation and heaps even more embarrassment on Budge & Co.Quote:
Originally Posted by munchar
Thats a belter :greengrin:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
Why would any Club vote to have a Mickey Mouse club like Caley in the top leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Increased travelling costs, and they will bring next to no one to our ground
That’s the only solution I’ve been able to think of and it’s probably not a bad one to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I know people are baying for blood with Hearts just now and I’d pish myself laughing if it did happen, in terms of fairness though I do think league reconstruction is the fairest way to solve the problem of this season.
Bigger league would also be good, not expecting many to see that silver lining if it does happen though.
Agree with most of your post (and Ozy's) but Hearts have been propped up by huge generous donations from a benefactor which has seen them be able to compete (and still be bottom :greengrin).......now yes, there is nothing wrong with someone throwing money at them, but the way they've acted recently, the email about funds for transfers (yet expecting non playing staff to take cuts / potentially lose jobs), reeks of unfairness. They also got special dispensation and leeway when their over-rated and overspent stand as built - and made money from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Relegate them :aok:
Does all this mean the capital city will now have one Premiership club and two teams in the lower leagues?
These two other clubs need to get their act together as its embarrassing for Edinburgh.
That’s a good shout and could see it happen. Or they keep the prize money the same as it is now and whoever finishes last just gets whatever 1st in the Championship would’ve received previously and so onQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Problem with that is that it takes away the top prize from the championship so they would all votes against. I imagine a good few of them will fancy their chances of winning it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
Needs to be Hearts taking the hit for this.
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And the plan would have to be good for getting back to 12 after one season.
It short, it will need to be a pretty impressive plan to get past this voting structure.
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Cue the 'mystery building faults' at Tynecastle and moving games to Murrayfield :greengrin:cbQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
They’ll have to pay their players against this month
Have they agreed a wage cut yet that pioneer Budge led the way with?Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
I had a feeling someone would think that!Quote:
Originally Posted by AltheHibby
Clean your mind!!
😂
Not that they have publishedQuote:
Originally Posted by 90+2
Now they are relegated they may be able to invoke relegation clauses.
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Shame, sure she has it all under control.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
They aren’t tho as it doesn’t include the Prem. That will only happen after UEFA meeting and while they wait - they led Budge lead a fantasy reconstruction consortium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
That would work as a one-off, but what about season 21-22?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
If the top league stays at 14 then the bottom two clubs will want prize money, reducing everyone else's share.
If the top league reverts to 12 then you're looking at three teams being relegated to spare one team this season.
Can't see teams queuing up to vote for an expanded top flight either way.
It makes me so bloody angry, exactly who do they think they are???Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman
I was assuming it was a one season deal. Three go down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eyrie
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Suffice to say, there`s a lot of "seethe" on Brokeback
*Ahem* HAHAHAHAHAHA 👋
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
In other words, Hearts and ICT buy a place in a reconstructed Scottish Premiership? Tidy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
Where does Dundee FC stand in all this? Maybe they could offer to pay money into the Scottish Premiership and gazump them. :rolleyes:
All right, who's going to admit to this undercover post from their next manager thread?
"Alan Stubbs
He turned Hibs from having 6 or 7 players in the squad when he turned up and won them the Scottish Cup playing attractive football.
He must be worth a shout. "
Not a chance Inverness would have won a playoff. They were were dismantled by mid table Hibs. They can stay where they are and fight it out with Hearts next season.
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Originally Posted by Joe6-2
As much as I dislike the hertz Can we no just relegate them now and put them out of misery, second thoughts naw, lets keep them boiling for a week or so more.
**** the hertz
Would hate it if Stubbsy went there but it would be a brave good call.Quote:
Originally Posted by AltheHibby
Let’s be honest, they’ll worm a way out as usual
Stubbsy's side had a lot of great qualities, but grinding out wins against defensive teams in the Championship was not one of them, and that's what Hertz will need.Quote:
Originally Posted by 90+2
Also I love the man and it would be horrible to see him in their dugout.
That was me to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by 90+2
That was me to be honest. Had the fishing a few times tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by 90+2
😂 they could do a lot worse so it’s a fair shout.Quote:
Originally Posted by supershotmo
All true. He would have the hearts fluke factor too tho and would be a much easier league. Them playing good football under Stubbs brining in good footballers with the right attitude would be sickening. Thankfully they have no chance of him or Jack Ross 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish
It was me that did the Stubbs comment. They are biting.
Oops. My phone was on the brink but it was me.
How funny would it be if they had to abandon reconstruction plans because they needed to confirm relegation to get rid of the high earners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Saw some of the comments, they are a fragile lot just now.Quote:
Originally Posted by supershotmo
They’ll stop biting now that you’ve blown the gaff! :greengrin They’ll be reporting back as we speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by supershotmo
Loving your work.Quote:
Originally Posted by supershotmo
Only caused 10% as much grief as Budge has to hearts fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
Loving the moral outrage over there🤣 mass memory loss in regards to how they completely shafted Dundee in 2013,they Hearts as a club knew full well the trouble they were i but brassed it out to avoid administration that season and the 15 point penalty that incurred, this would have sent them down instead of Dundee.Also noticed they have a thread on naming their new stand,surely its got to be named the Money Pit.!!😁
I see on kickback they “would be happy with” Steve Robinson for their manager next year 😂 They really do have some ego to think that he will swap European football for the championship. Mental
Great. I really hope they can persuade Stendall to stay.[emoji1696][emoji1696][emoji1696]Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
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They also have players like Olly Lee to come back in the summer. Still got a year left on his deal. In current climate I can’t see anyone taking him off their hands.
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They can forget about searching for a new manager. The best man for the job is already at the club.
Sadly I am sure I read somewhere that he has a get out clause if relegated. Hopefully he does not enforce it!
Stendel needs to stay, the captain should be going down with his ship 😁
Wonder what tripe they have in their team that have relegation clauses? Im guessing liam boyce is one of them, they surely can't afford to pay £6k a week
Them winning at Easter Road is still a complete kick in the gut. The warning signs where there though with performances against Hamilton and st Mirren:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Stendel will get a job because of Coronavirus: he won’t be at hearts though.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigHibee
I’m afraid you’re wrong there my friend. What they will do is search far and wide before deciding the best man for the job is already at the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Estupendo
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I hope he does, it would be known as the most expensive disaster in Scottish football 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip shop Joe
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Originally Posted by 90+2
Still gutted by our limp display that night night
For anyone who’s seen Tiger King
Anne Budge > Carole Baskin
Here’s what the Budgie said in a BBC interview in August 2016. Wonder what she thinks now
“Hearts owner Ann Budge believes there are twice the ideal number of senior clubs in Scotland.
Budge, who recently joined the Scottish Professional Football League's board, said: "I think 42 senior clubs is too many for Scotland.
You're looking at about half that number. “
More like 90% the vote needs 11 - 1 to passQuote:
Originally Posted by 90+2
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Statement oclock
https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...-16-april-2020
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Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Does anyone think that reconstruction can be voted through.
I'm assuming the fact Hamilton have been picked they are for reconstruction? Would be strange to vote against a motion you have worked on.
The way they are talking this is reconstruction for all leagues which can only mean more clubs in all divisions.
Whats peoples views
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:faf: Thought she was going to burst into "the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play" for a minute there.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Budge continues to be barefaced. If she just came out and said "we don't want to be relagated, please save us" then at least people could take her seriously.
Interesting, she doesn't mention her role in the 'taskforce" and the opportunity given by the SPFL to reconstruct the top flight. More bleating on about the injustice of it all and how the relegated teams have been shafted.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Increasingly looking like the SPFL have just said ....OK Anne, you go away and see what appetite there is for a restructure and we'll have a wee look at it ... knowing full well it's a lost cause.
Think Anne has just confirmed, they're going down.
Yes, they have handed the keys of the jail to the most dangerous criminal in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenworld
She will get her own people on the task force, she will control the narrative and the spin about any new setup, she has an army of media mouthpieces ready and willing to do her bidding, step forward Mr English, she can privately influence doubters with god knows what behind closed doors and when the final structure is presented to the public it will have all the bells and whistles you could wish for. Any club who thinks about rejecting it will be painted as Public enemy no 1.
For me, reconstruction is a done deal.
Would not be hearing a PEEP from her if Hearts had finished second bottom. She’s a bare faced lier saying she’s doing all this for the good of Scottish football
My god Budge. The season has finished and you finished bottom.
Not going down would be hugely unfair on every team ever relegated.
Trying to use the pandemic situation as a get out of jail free card is disgusting.All clubs are suffering financially not just yours.
Take your medicine and lets all keep our energy for more important things.
That statement suggests there's no serious drive towards restructure. If there was, you'd expect her to be more upbeat and positive and certainly not lashing out at the SPFL and bleating on about injustice and and righting wrongs. It was a rant and lash out from someone who knows this is now a done deal. Hearts are finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenworld
Thing is, if you HAD to pick a season where you were to be relegated this is probably the best one. God knows when next season will start, it will likely end up some sort of shortened season anyway, with or without reconstruction, and you could look all righteous saying you took one on the chin for the team.
Yep, time to resurrect Save Hearts In Trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Estupendo
They can bake cakes again, if they can get flour. Could start inserting their small change into plastic farmyard animals again as well
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No mention of legal action in that statement, seems like as expected that was all bluster.
“ I have said from the outset that it was imperative that we find a solution that ensures no club is penalised by relegation in a situation where the leagues cannot be finished”
She means Hearts.
“ We will continue to do so, working with other member clubs and supported by the SPFL, where required, to put through the changes needed to right the potential wrongs of relegation in this situation”
The only reason this is wrong through her eyes is because of who is bottom of the table. There would be no sympathy from Tynecastle towards any other club had they been in Hearts’ position. Not one.
“ While Hearts have not at this time been relegated, Partick Thistle and Stranraer have. This should not be happening and we will do everything in our power to find a solution with a positive outcome that works, not just for the 3 clubs in relegation spots, but for all of Scottish Football”
No, this is just for Hearts and she couldn’t give a flying toss for the other clubs.
I’m sure the majority of clubs won’t be falling for her pathetic crocodile tears.
Remarkably short by her usual standards. Perhaps she's lost the will to bash out her usual 5000 words now that reality has hit home. She certainly sounds beaten down.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
I’m not even going to read itQuote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
With the amount of bleating they've been doing, they are the new Sheep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
Legal fight chat dropped altogether. She knows they are toast.
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So if I'm reading this correctly..
Hearts want all teams in the Premiership to take a financial hit next season to save Hearts from relegation.
Hearts want no relegation this season but three teams to go down next (in a 14 team league) - if this does happen you know Hearts will be fine and Hibs will finish third bottom!
It's a big fat no from me, and Hibs better vote against such moves, if they are contrived solely to save Hearts from relegation, a relegation that they fully deserve for football reasons alone.
Pretty much. Plus clubs have already sold thousands of season tickets based on next seasons league having 12 teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoxburghHibs
If they want reconstruction it wont be next season.
Bye jambos.
Exactly, she goes on about no club being penalised whereas the reality is she wants their financial hit for being the worst team to be shared by all the clubs. The league for 2019/2020 has been f***ed up and now she wants to f*** it up for 2020/2021 and maybe even 2021/2022 with a worse structure.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoxburghHibs
Does, anyone, look, at, this, and check it, before, she, throws it out, like, this.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Better call Saul by the sounds of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
No lawyers stepping up to fight pro bono for the famous and no sign of Benny Factor fronting her much trumpeted legal action.
It's the end game now.
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She doesn’t need a legal challenge - Partick have already moved into position on that one...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I have been banned from Kickback for my Stubbs comments.
Reason : Vermin Trash
I assume the mods said that. It just shows how lucky we are to have decent mods. And decent, self aware supporters.Quote:
Originally Posted by supershotmo
Yep, and if folk are able to do so, go and get a ST for next season. It’s sold to you based on the current structure and not some contrived nonsense to save the overspending, deluded, natural order big team. They can go and parade their biggest glass curtain and chips in the Championship. If Hibs were in the same position they would not allow their board to vote to save us under any circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
Quote from kickback;
”We hope some ****ty club like St Mirren goes out of business.”
They’re all for the good of Scottish football eh? I hope the St Mirren board read that.
Hearts are ****. Just saying.
Wonder how this guy feels today?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Hopefully bitter, angry, cheated and very sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
Certainly toned down from previous rants sorry statements. Sounds half hearted and it certainly won't appease her support. I've changed my mind upon what Budge has said and its looking likely that Hearts are going down. Probably, reconstruction will happen in the next few years though.
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Originally Posted by Carheenlea
:agree:
She is trying to save her own skin. Nothing else matters to her.
Get rid of this bloody shower now, can’t wait for next week when EUFA pull the plug
He should feel like a complete moron but he won't he'll just feel like your everyday, run of the mill Jambo. Almost the same really though. Their lack of self awareness is astounding. Let's not forget how big and famous they are while being bottom of the league and statistically the worst ram in the premier league for roughly 15 monthsQuote:
Originally Posted by Waxy