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I don’t agree with the death penalty whatsoever but I’ve no issue with the presidential order for the punishment being the most severe penalty possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
The fact he pardoned those involved in riots killing 5 police officers a few weeks ago makes an utter mockery of it though. Kill a police officer for Trump and you’ll be fine. For any other reason, death.
"if you don't do as i say" :faf:
hurry the **** up and depart this earth Trump for the love of god
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It's not like Trump to support a regime hell bent on genocide.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
And he met all the former hostages!? Where and when?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
The answer is really somewhere in the middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
The actual payer of an import tariff is the importer.
In this case it’s likely to be the American based company that’s doing the importing. But not all importers will be American companies.
The consumer may end up covering that cost through higher end retail prices but that’s certainly not always the case.
There is plenty of evidence of tariffs being absorbed, at least by some degree, by margin contraction on the sending side as the foreign entity takes some of the hit to try and keep its products competitive. There is good evidence that is what happened the last time Trump applied tariffs last time around.
The importers can also absorb some of the cost in the same way.
So while it’s not wrong to say ‘the consumer pays’ it’s not an absolute truth either.
What is certainly true is that the Chinese or whoever will not be paying these tariffs directly to the US Treasury.
Those effects are only temporary though. How often do businesses accept lower profits long term? Eventually the consumer pays.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
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KYIV — Four senior members of Donald Trump’s entourage have held secret discussions with some of Kyiv’s top political opponents to Volodymyr Zelenskyy, just as Washington aligns with Moscow in seeking to lever the Ukrainian president out of his job.
i wonder if any of them are pro-putin
Oh good, USA now attempting to effectively force one of the best world leaders we've seen in 100 years out of office and leave his country and the rest of Europe open to further Russian aggression.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
What the **** is going on?
Tariffs are basically a tool for promoting homegrown products and disadvantaging importing products, Trump keeps trumpeting this line that they'll create $squillions for the US economy when that is not their function. This is going to see a rise in prices which'll lead to a rise in inflation and also lower confidence in the $, pretty dangerous really as the $ is seen as the worlds reserved currency. Hopefully the UK doesn't do its usual and mirror the US economy.
I’ve already seen a daily substantial fall in my pension and Stocks & Shares ISA this week. I suspect due to market fear for this trade war. Thankfully I’m still 25 years from retirementQuote:
Originally Posted by Andy Bee
Sorry to hear that Lendo, hopefully they'll recover quickly but it's a dip that wasn't needed. On the plus side, my dream boat has dropped over £50k due to the price of the $ the last 2 or 3 weeks, still a dream though. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
To be fair, the US stock market is due a correction with or without Trump. There is a reason Buffet has been sellling and sitting on a mountain of cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Bee
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I reckon you're right going by some of the valuations of some companies, TBF I just wasn't wanting to piss off Lendo even more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Inveterate liar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
European defence stocks would be a good investment. Rolls Royce has gone from about £1 to £8 in a few years. Defence spending is only going up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Yes, if I was into stocks that’s where I would be looking. Europe rearming will drive a huge amount of growth over next few years. I expect that a few countries like Poland and the Baltics will be looking to build a nuclear deterrent now as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamie_1875
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Going to be a big recession.[emoji106]
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If markets hate anything it’s uncertainty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
And boy has Trump caused that.
Already US consumer comfort’s plummeting, seems business investment is going the same way.
His random approach is making it increasingly impossible for any corporation to make investment plans so they simply stop doing so.
The knock on effects for the US economy could be significant indeed with shock waves felt around the world.
We’ll see how long his popularity lasts when his actions drive down the S&P, drive up inflation and cause labour market chaos.
As the US has substantially more domestic stock market investors than almost any other country its domestic political fortunes are almost uniquely tied to it as a key metric of how the US population measures its wealth.
Trump might find that people turn on him way quicker than he thinks.
If you read about the deal for the Panama Canal terminals that BlackRock bought, you see the effects of crony capitalism Trump has introduced, resulting in very inefficient transactions. I think they paid more than the seller's entire market capitalisation.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
Today's mayhem seems to include shutting down the Department of Education (as forewarned), and removing responsibility to the states. This is expected to harm special needs education, which is guaranteed by the DoE up until age 21.
And the Post Office leadership is to be removed, and the institution to be controlled by the Executive Office. No way this is going to affect postal voting. No siree :rolleyes:
Edit: I'm off out for a long and brisk walk. Will be buying a bottle of Canadian whisky from our friendly local liquor store on the way back.
I can already see it as investments and pension pots are tanking daily.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
I retired 4 months ago and my superannuation is down around $20K in a fortnight.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
I expect it to get a lot worse before it gets any better.
His stance on Ukraine is unlikely to change much. The economy is a bit more of an unknown, you would think that there is a lot of pressure going to be applied behind the scenes if the markets continue to tank.
He prides himself in being this great, successful businessman and a Wall Street collapse under his presidency would not look that great on his CV.
He'll just call Wall Street "woke" and people will cheer him on.Quote:
Originally Posted by ddoc
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Trumps backs down on Mexico tariffs again. Very disappointing. Really want to see him royally **** everything up. [emoji849]
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This really is an absolute shambles. What’s it been? 2 days or so since the tariff was introduced?
The guy has no ****ing clue what he’s doing.
Or I suppose alternatively, he knows exactly what he’s doing and is manipulating markets to help his rich pals get richer.
The Tate brothers not as smug as they were a couple of days ago. Florida opening up an investigation into them. Wonder if the Don will step in?
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I wouldn’t worry, I am constantly pissed off at the moment :wink:. Hibs are the one shining light in a miserable world right now.Quote:
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I said the same thing to my brother a week agoQuote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
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Jeez, the world really has turned upside down!
You do remember what happened the last time he was elected?Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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Problem is this time he has an idea of what he can get away with and also has a "sociopathic" billionaire helping him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
David Gray?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Bee
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Ahh I might be wrong, is Liam Craig that rich?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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Originally Posted by Andy Bee
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JFC
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Trump on two astronauts stuck in space: "Maybe they'll love each other, I don't know. But they've been left up there. Think of it. And I see the woman with the wild hair. Good solid head of hair she's got. There's no kidding. There's no games with her hair."
On the subject of space, that's the Gulf of Mexico being cleared of planes again to avoid debris from Elon's exploded spacecraft.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Musk should invite Trump to accompany him on his next manned Starship failure. If only!!!!
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Somebody needs to take his phone from himQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
i can't believe Americans with an IQ above 60 fall for this crap
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
In the name of the father Eric,
his son Donald
and the Holy Musk.
...All-men
I think the problem is that there are just not enough of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Is it wrong to think Yes, go for it you absolute ****wits? I guess the kids are innocent but that’s how Darwinism works isn’t it?
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Probably performative to convince the clowns who believe they are on their side.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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I thought this Jonathon Freedland article describing Trump as a wannabee Mafia Don is pretty accurate.
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Kentucky distillers association are warning 23,000 jobs at risk in the state. Shame. [emoji2369]
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The mugs have had Trump currency, now this grift, wonder what's next?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d29bc0ac63.jpg
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What a depressing read. Stupidest nation on earth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
All that winningQuote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
It will come home to roost eventually but my god humans are reaching a depth of stupidity I didn't think possible on a large scale
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They're everywhere, not just in the US. Farage, Trump, Putin and their ilk have tapped into vacant heads all over the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
The White House, Trump?, not ruling out foul play in the US oil tanker / Portuguese cargo ship collision in the North Sea. He loves courting controversy.
Ps The tanker was carrying aviation fuel and the cargo ship was carrying 15 containers of cyanide. I don’t think there’ll be a lot of swimming on the east coast of England this year.
poor Elonski, though it looks ok for me :confused:
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Tesla having a bad day as well.
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greatQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
some day someone will bang this git on the nose...
Insulting since he served as a U.S. Navy captain and a NASA astronaut.
Kelly was a combat pilot and flew 39 combat missions during Operation Desert Storm in the Gulf War.
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I’m staggered at the level of patience they’re showing towards these clowns stateside.
Dissing vets and turning your back on your allies would cause bother in normal times although I get that they might not be that big a deal to them in the crazy modern era.
It’ll be interesting to see how long they can last making rich people poorer though. Could get interesting earlier than expected.
It's giving me 'Emperor's New Clothes' vibes. We can only hope that somebody calls it out, is heard and believed by the townsfolk, and everybody accepts that they've been had. And does something about it. Quickly would be good.:aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
On what level would that make the guy a traitor?Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
It's now illegal to not buy a Tesla.
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The Tesla boycott must be working. [emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Even after all the falls it’s massively over valued still. Without Musk it’s a £50 share at best. If it goes near that Musk will go bankrupt.
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I wonder if Musk has to give back the $55bn bonus he's due for the Tesla shares passing the threshold (can't remember the amount they had to rise)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
He's also calling collusion ('secret or unlawful') against himself at the election. No, you ****wit, there was nothing secret about the opposition to you, though it may well be unlawful to vote against you next time round, if there is a next time. Radical left lunatics infected with the woke mind virus etc etc etc, all this stuff is being recorded for future historians to look at. You have to wonder what people who didn't live through it will make of it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
It’s probably still above that unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Bee
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Originally Posted by grunt
This really is quite incredible that Americans voted for this moron.
Elon Moscovite is displaying how thick and blinkered he is. Since jumping into bed with Trump and Putin, any Ukraine sympathiser is deemed a traitor in their eyes. If the idiots continue this insane Fascist crusade it’s surely a matter of time till the less staunch Republicans turn on them and see sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
I think there's a flaw in your argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
If they still have a vote in Trumpograd it might just make a difference. Especially if his strange wee sidekick hasn't completely taken over online voting and vote counting as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
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I recommend watching The Good Fight, series 2 is a lot about the trump administration and the 2020 election.Quote:
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I hope not. There must be many centre right voters and elected members to say enough is enough. They must see that the USA is heading for political suicide and major civil disruption.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Jim44
One thing the American public do as a general rule, is support, celebrate, cheer, tub thump for and borderline fetishise is their armed forces. If Musk continues to attack veterans as posted earlier on this thread, it may have a backlash. Over to you Elon
The yanks really do look after their Veterans, whilst in the States last year, I saved between 20% and 30% wherever I shopped ate using my UK veterans card.
All depends on who can convince them of their version of what constitutes true American patriotism.Quote:
Originally Posted by McD
this poor MAGA voter is getting it tight for realising she made a mistake in voting for the Trumpster Alex Cole on X: "Bwaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah ahahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha hahahahaahhaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaah.... ha!!!! https://t.co/HEGFyQSHRZ" / X
If they were paying attention / not terrified of Trump and his thug militia I'm fairly sure they would. Unfortunately, a disturbing number of people seem to have no awareness of what's happening at the moment, or they were taken in by his TV mega-successful businessman identity and think he must be playing 4d chess. Republicans in Congress are reportedly scared for their families and livelihoods, between Trump, Musk and Maga, if they don't fall in line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Bernie Sanders is selling out massive venues all over the US. I feel like the tide is turning on Trump already domestically. Of course, none of this being covered at all by the mainstream media, but feels like there's a real grassroots uprising happening in the US already, what are we, 6 or 7 weeks into the Trump presidency? If the Democrats had any sense they'd have him back and fronting the opposition voice.
Bernie was doing the exact same thing 10 years ago, it was his own party that ****ed him over twice, there is unfortunately a huge difference between him and the rest of the Democratic Party, they still aren't listeningQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Exile
This guy is a flipping lunatic
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He'll be doing well to hang onto his current states let alone acquiring more.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
His threats to Panama, Greenland, Canada and Mexico are being taken very seriously though.
"Electricity" :faf: :crazy:Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Hold firm this time Donald. Americans need to experience the very real pain this will bring in order to prevent them being this stupid again.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
I see the market are tanking again.[emoji1696][emoji106]
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Just as the stock market was showing *slight* signs of recovery too.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
I know very little about finance or economics, but this is the third time in a week that he's made harmful announcements affecting the markets. If this isn't deliberate destruction, does somebody who DOES know about finance and /or economics have an alternative suggestion (apart from him being stupid / mad / showing off his power 'cos he can)? :dunno:
I think you're right. And I think it needs to happen quickly so that people a) notice and b) are able to link cause and effect. Otherwise it'll be just like the last time with people becoming gradually inured to the increasing damage, corruption and ridiculousness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The biggest threat to the US is fresh water as 90% of it come through Canada… a few well placed Dams and they are ******
I don’t think it will ever get to that. Trump would be hounded out long before that stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
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How on earth can a country the size of America not manage to create enough electricity for themselves that they have to get it from CanadaQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Canadian perspective
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Ontario have amazing Hydro generating power stationsQuote:
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Trump now turned into a car salesman for Musk.[emoji23]
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Is it illegal, as Trump claims, to boycott Tesla?
I must have missed that Executive Order.
He’s maybe introduced some sort of ‘treason’ Executive Order. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
If you ask nicely he will be only to happy to get his special big signature pen out, set up the TV cameras and issue the order.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
No need for any of that cabinet or house of representatives or Senate input nonsense and it's unlikely his wee sidekick will overrule him on this one.
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"Nice country. Shame if something happened to it."Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Trumpster doing a little advertising for Tesla yesterday Republicans against Trump on X: "Donald Trump doing a Tesla infomercial for Elon Musk—his biggest political donor—in front of the White House is peak corruption. https://t.co/EpQ43g9dEg" / X of course Musk had his kid around him
i've started seeing various individuals on various threads suggesting a reason why Musk likes to have his small kid near himQuote:
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