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11-04-2020, 12:21 AM
TheHarpy76

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Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs

Cause you are. Jeez mate just give it up yet not fooling anyone. 😄

That’s a cracking argument. “Because you are”. What have I said that’s wrong?
11-04-2020, 12:23 AM
tamig

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

Its pish though. Utter nonsense. I don’t think you’ll get too many agreeing with you. I also think any kickbackers proposing this would have to be the most desperate of desperados. Its nonsense.
11-04-2020, 12:26 AM
Broken Gnome

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

No you can't, you surely can't empathise with some desperate fact-checking from spewing Hearts fans that shows by some minute metric that it could be argued they have the 'best' cup record this season.

I don't see how anyone could remotely understand that.
11-04-2020, 12:36 AM
O'Rourke3

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

I don't know why I care anymore.the argument(that you get) is that Hearts have played 2 teams in the premiership so have had a hard run. Despite not being able to beat Hibs from the Championship two years in a row? Very logical. I get it, award them the trophy now....
11-04-2020, 12:43 AM
TheHarpy76

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Originally Posted by RicheyWhite

No you can't, you surely can't empathise with some desperate fact-checking from spewing Hearts fans that shows by some minute metric that it could be argued they have the 'best' cup record this season.

I don't see how anyone could remotely understand that.

I look at things objectively, not through green tints. I’ve always been that way and it’s caused no end of arguments for me.
I’ve said it twice and I’ll say it for a third time. I’m not saying the cup should be played out that way. But I completely understand them saying it. We would be doing the same. Let’s not deny that.
11-04-2020, 12:50 AM
1875godsgift

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

To bring a bit of perspective, it's the same Hearts supporters saying it who were happy to win cups by fielding players they couldn't afford, ripping off charities, pensioners and local businesses in the process.

It's like trying to explain the concept of cheating to a 3 year old.
11-04-2020, 12:51 AM
TheHarpy76

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Originally Posted by 1875godsgift

To bring a bit of perspective, it's the same Hearts supporters saying it who were happy to win cups by fielding players they couldn't afford, ripping off charities, pensioners and local businesses in the process.

It's like trying to explain the concept of cheating to a 3 year old.

That’s fair enough. Like I said in the post above yours. I’m just speaking objectively,
11-04-2020, 12:59 AM
1875godsgift

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

That’s fair enough. Like I said in the post above yours. I’m just speaking objectively,

No worries mate :thumbsup:

I'm sure at some point towards the end of the year 3 games could be fitted in over two weekends to decide it.

A Boxing Day Scottish Cup Final would be a good end to the year (as long as we're still in it!) :greengrin
11-04-2020, 01:16 AM
AFKA5814_Hibs

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

That’s a cracking argument. “Because you are”. What have I said that’s wrong?

In 3 rounds of the Scottish Cup this season Hearts have a record of scored 7 and conceded 0, +7. Hibs have scored 15 conceded 7, +8. Am I missing something here. Please tell me if I am.
11-04-2020, 01:19 AM
TheHarpy76

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Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs

In 3 rounds of the Scottish Cup this season Hearts have a record of scored 7 and conceded 0, +7. Hibs have scored 15 conceded 7, +8. Am I missing something here. Please tell me if I am.

Hearts have a 100% record. We don’t, we needed a replay.
11-04-2020, 01:20 AM
TheHarpy76

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Originally Posted by 1875godsgift

No worries mate :thumbsup:

I'm sure at some point towards the end of the year 3 games could be fitted in over two weekends to decide it.

A Boxing Day Scottish Cup Final would be a good end to the year (as long as we're still in it!) :greengrin

That is the hope :greengrin

Thanks for seeing where I was coming from 🙂
11-04-2020, 01:23 AM
FilipinoHibs

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

You must be the only outside Tynie then who thinks that!
11-04-2020, 01:23 AM
AFKA5814_Hibs

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Hearts have a 100% record. We don’t, we needed a replay.

Oh dear. Right ok then. I think you should just leave it there before you dig yourself a bigger hole. 👍
11-04-2020, 01:25 AM
TheHarpy76

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Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs

Oh dear. Right ok then. I think you should just leave it there before you dig yourself a bigger hole. 👍

Am I wrong?
11-04-2020, 01:26 AM
TheHarpy76

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Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs

You must be the only outside Tynie then who thinks that!

I doubt I’m the only one.
11-04-2020, 01:27 AM
AFKA5814_Hibs

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Am I wrong?

Yes you clearly are. 🤣
11-04-2020, 01:29 AM
TheHarpy76

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Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs

Yes you clearly are. 🤣

You know the opinions of every single football fan outside of Hearts?
11-04-2020, 01:35 AM
Vault Boy

All four teams that are in the semi finals have identical win records. There's absolutely no logical way of awarding a winner in a knock-out competition without the games being played to completion.

There's simply no other way to conclude the Scottish Cup. The games get played in the next football season, or the competition is nullified, that's it.
11-04-2020, 01:39 AM
TheHarpy76

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Originally Posted by Vault Boy

All four teams that are in the semi finals have identical win records. There's absolutely no logical way of awarding a winner in a knock-out competition without the games being played to completion.

There's absolutely no other way to conclude the Scottish Cup. The games get played in the next football season, or the competition is nullified, that's it.

Hibs and Aberdeen have played 5 games in the complete and won 4.

Celtic and Hearts have played 4 and won 4.

That’s not the same win records.
11-04-2020, 01:42 AM
Ozyhibby

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Hibs and Aberdeen have played 5 games in the complete and won 4.

Celtic and Hearts have played 4 and won 4.

That’s not the same win records.

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11-04-2020, 01:45 AM
TheHarpy76

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Struggling to believe this is being discussed.[emoji23]

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Once again...Why?

What have I said that isn’t factually correct?
11-04-2020, 01:46 AM
AFKA5814_Hibs

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Hibs and Aberdeen have played 5 games in the complete and won 4.

Celtic and Hearts have played 4 and won 4.

That’s not the same win records.

Your a funny guy. 😄
11-04-2020, 01:48 AM
TheHarpy76

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Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs

Your a funny guy. 😄

Cheers. I have my moments.

Is what I said wrong though?
11-04-2020, 01:52 AM
AFKA5814_Hibs

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Cheers. I have my moments.

Is what I said wrong though?

I'll leave it to one of the admin guys to punt you. Personally, I'd keep you as one of our wee pets. 😄
11-04-2020, 01:54 AM
TheHarpy76

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Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs

I'll leave it to one of the admin guys to punt you. Personally, I'd keep you as one of our wee pets. 😄

There it is. I’ve done this before you know.
I think objectively and therefore I must be a Jambo.

I’m not going to justify my Hibs supporting credentials to you.

You didn’t answer the question though. Was what I said wrong?
11-04-2020, 01:58 AM
FilipinoHibs

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

You know the opinions of every single football fan outside of Hearts?

Yes I have seen the idea suggested by fans from all over Scitland🤪
11-04-2020, 01:59 AM
TheHarpy76

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Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs

Yes I have seen the idea suggested by fans from all over Scitland🤪

Every single fan?
11-04-2020, 02:15 AM
Vault Boy

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Hibs and Aberdeen have played 5 games in the complete and won 4.

Celtic and Hearts have played 4 and won 4.

That’s not the same win records.

A Scottish Cup tie is played until there is a winner, a replay is still the same round of fixtures. All four teams have won the same number of rounds.

They've all played and won 4 rounds. That's the only thing that matters in a knockout competition of this kind, so yes they're identical.
11-04-2020, 02:19 AM
AFKA5814_Hibs

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Originally Posted by Vault Boy

A Scottish Cup tie is played until there is a winner, a replay is still the same round of fixtures. All four teams have won the same number of rounds.

They've all played and won 4 rounds. That's the only thing that matters in a knockout competition of this kind, so yes they're identical.

Dont do it. Dont talk to it....🤪
11-04-2020, 02:28 AM
Green_one

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Originally Posted by Vault Boy

A Scottish Cup tie is played until there is a winner, a replay is still the same round of fixtures. All four teams have won the same number of rounds.

They've all played and won 4 rounds. That's the only thing that matters in a knockout competition of this kind, so yes they're identical.

Plus the only way to predict who will win it is NOT to look at past results against minor teams but rather who you are playing next. ALL the teams Hearts are potentially playing have better form and recent records. The bookies way you might call it. On those grounds Celtic are way out in front and Hearts are clearly last. The whole issue though is pointless. You either play the games and resolve it or simply not issue the cup. Anything else is crazy or kickback logic.
11-04-2020, 02:51 AM
FilipinoHibs

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Every single fan?

It was tongue in cheek. Only heard it from the most unhinged Jambos and TheHarpy76. We should close this discussion down and call the yellow van.
11-04-2020, 04:02 AM
lapsedhibee

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Originally Posted by Michael

I heard that they're going to draw straws for the Scottish Cup.

This is the best idea.

Aberdeen, Celtc and Hibs should get one straw each.
Hearts should get three straws, because they used to be run by a company called Wheatsheaf and one of their tin stands is called Wheatfield.
I'm not saying that's entirely fair, but I can understand why Hearts fans would believe it to be fair, and we'd be exactly the same if we were in their position and weren't sane either.
11-04-2020, 04:21 AM
Skol

Four wins and a draw worth a point more than four wins. So it’s a hibs Aberdeen final.
11-04-2020, 04:24 AM
Tug Wilson

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Originally Posted by Skol

Four wins and a draw worth a point more than four wins. So it’s a hibs Aberdeen final.

Do we not just win it on goal difference?
11-04-2020, 04:59 AM
RoxburghHibs

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

No. Award the cup to the remaining team with the best record. Who they played is completely irrelevant. Just as it would be if the cup was played to its conclusion in the normal way.

You don’t win cups on goal difference and even in some mad crazy world where you do that method hands Hibs the cup!😂
What the actual f!** are you on about?! Has to be a wind up or a drunk post.

That said I hope you’re just a Jambo clutching at straws on levels never seen before as its entertaining. Hearts fans = wee club mentality
11-04-2020, 06:17 AM
Springbank

The first 3 games back will be the 2 semis & the final, whenever that is (earliest possible is last week in July but that looks very ambitious & more likely to be aug/sept)

Whenever they take place, the SFA would like it all to start back with:

Tuesday - Hibs v Hearts
Wednesday - Aberdeen v Celtic
Saturday - The Scottish Cup Final

All 3 likely to be on telly but no fans inside the stadium
11-04-2020, 06:27 AM
James Stephen

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

I look at things objectively, not through green tints. I’ve always been that way and it’s caused no end of arguments for me.
I’ve said it twice and I’ll say it for a third time. I’m not saying the cup should be played out that way. But I completely understand them saying it. We would be doing the same. Let’s not deny that.

I deny it.

Theres no way on earth i would advocate that for Hibs.

Its a bonkers plan, and it is not logical or objective.
11-04-2020, 06:45 AM
mjhibby

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

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I think stir crazy status has officially kicked in for loads of folk due to lockdown fever. It's like two kids in the playground wondering how to win the cup without playing the semis and final. Bizarre.
11-04-2020, 06:50 AM
DaveF

Those last couple of pages were great 😂

.net at its bonkers best.
11-04-2020, 06:54 AM
RoxburghHibs

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Originally Posted by DaveF

Those last couple of pages were great 😂

.net at its bonkers best.

The guy really believed he had a valid point. Made it comedy gold.
11-04-2020, 06:55 AM
NC1875

The last few pages have just made me forget all about my hangover. What a laugh.

When is hearts cup parade ?

Budge at the front of the bus and Levein at the back. 400k supporters kept 2m apart while cheering their heroes!!
11-04-2020, 06:58 AM
Not In The Know

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Originally Posted by 1875godsgift

To bring a bit of perspective, it's the same Hearts supporters saying it who were happy to win cups by fielding players they couldn't afford, ripping off charities, pensioners and local businesses in the process.

It's like trying to explain the concept of cheating to a 3 year old.

Exactly. They can **** off and go bust.

If anyone thinks differently just look at this revisionist pish from peak cheating/thieving/laundering years that we have to put up with.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...-final-2536182
11-04-2020, 07:15 AM
brog

Wow, welcome to Through The Looking Glass. Confirms the old adage that you should not post in the wee sma hours! Anyway it was a welcome distraction & I'm thrilled to note that I actually saw us win the cup about 60 years ago when we beat Peebles Rovers 15-1! Some final!
11-04-2020, 07:39 AM
we are hibs

The scottish cup semis will be played next season. Its an SFA competition so not part of the end it now proposal. They might even use them as the season openers.
11-04-2020, 07:56 AM
high bee

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Hibs and Aberdeen have played 5 games in the complete and won 4.

Celtic and Hearts have played 4 and won 4.

That’s not the same win records.

I agree Hearts should be awarded the Scottish Cup, just so I can see them squirm when they’re trying to boast about their famous victory while concurrently claiming victim status due to their relegation.
11-04-2020, 08:12 AM
Springbank

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

The scottish cup semis will be played next season. Its an SFA competition so not part of the end it now proposal. They might even use them as the season openers.

100% the season openers will be Hibs v Hearts, Aberdeen vs Celtic, then a few days later, The Final

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/51935742
11-04-2020, 08:16 AM
G B Young

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

The scottish cup semis will be played next season. Its an SFA competition so not part of the end it now proposal. They might even use them as the season openers.

I can't see that happening. Think it will simply be abandoned.
11-04-2020, 08:17 AM
Greenworld

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Originally Posted by G B Young

I can't see that happening. Think it will simply be abandoned.

The SFA have already said that's what is to happen

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11-04-2020, 08:18 AM
Aldo

I’m late to this party and by god what a party it has been!

The thought process of some Hibs fans (I apply this very loosely btw) suggests the fairest way to sort the winners of this years Scottish cup is goal average (or games win so far this season).

Dear o dear!

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11-04-2020, 08:19 AM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

In their place, I would be doing the same.

If they’re calling it on one competition then they have to call it on them all. Hearts have the best record from the four remaining teams.

I know I’m going to get grief for this but it’s how I feel.

Applying the average Duncan's logic,they should all be moving into Edinburgh castle and claiming they're birthright since they have the best view of it from any ground in Scotland.

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11-04-2020, 08:28 AM
Keith_M

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Originally Posted by Springbank

100% the season openers will be Hibs v Hearts, Aberdeen vs Celtic, then a few days later, The Final

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/51935742

That would only be a reasonable proposal if clubs are restricted to use only players that are currently registered with that club.

If they allow new signings to play, then it's utter nonsense.
11-04-2020, 08:34 AM
Phil MaGlass

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Originally Posted by Greenworld

The SFA have already said that's what is to happen

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Some much needed cash generated then, hopefully.
11-04-2020, 08:34 AM
bringbackbenny

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Originally Posted by Keith_M

That would only be a reasonable proposal if clubs are restricted to use only players that are currently registered with that club.

If they allow new signings to play, then it's utter nonsense.

Agree has to be with current squads/registered players. would therefore require temporary contract extensions with all the players agreeing to same.
11-04-2020, 08:36 AM
Aldo

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

Applying the average Duncan's logic,they should all be moving into Edinburgh castle and claiming they're birthright since they have the best view of it from any ground in Scotland.

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Indeed. Not forgetting they are the Famous and the supposed Big Team

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11-04-2020, 08:38 AM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by Aldo

Indeed. Not forgetting they are the Famous and the supposed Big Team

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Hold the front page, celtc are claiming it as, of all the teams left, they have the most hoops on their strips.

Mrs Budge will be right on the phone to her pals to stop this happening.

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11-04-2020, 08:42 AM
Aldo

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

Hold the front page, celtc are claiming it as, of all the teams left, they have the most hoops on their strips.

Mrs Budge will be right on the phone to her pals to stop this happening.

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Threatening legal action too

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11-04-2020, 08:43 AM
Ozyhibby

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Once again...Why?

What have I said that isn’t factually correct?

You are totally factually correct. I just can’t believe anyone thinks a cup competition would ever be settled this way.

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11-04-2020, 08:44 AM
G B Young

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Originally Posted by Greenworld

The SFA have already said that's what is to happen

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It might be what they'd like to happen but they will ultimately be dictated to by circumstances. The chances of life returning to a level where we could safely host these ties in the next few months are slim to non existent. Allowing 100,000 people to converge on Hampden over a weekend is a long, long way off.
11-04-2020, 08:47 AM
Keith_M

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

You are totally factually correct. I just can’t believe anyone thinks a cup competition would ever be settled this way.

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Just ignore him, he's an obvious Troll.

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11-04-2020, 08:51 AM
Onion

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Originally Posted by bringbackbenny

Agree has to be with current squads/registered players. would therefore require temporary contract extensions with all the players agreeing to same.

Yes, but can't see that happening. As soon as UEFA allow leagues to end the season - players, agents and clubs will be preparing for next season. There'ill be no need to extend contracts and I can't see any player/agent agreeing to stick around for 1 or 2 cup games - unless they had nothing else on the table.
11-04-2020, 08:57 AM
brog

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Hibs and Aberdeen have played 5 games in the complete and won 4.

Celtic and Hearts have played 4 and won 4.

That’s not the same win records.

You've not even got that correct. We've played 4 as have Aberdeen. Celtc & them have played 3.
11-04-2020, 09:01 AM
James Stephen

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

Hold the front page, celtc are claiming it as, of all the teams left, they have the most hoops on their strips.

Mrs Budge will be right on the phone to her pals to stop this happening.

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I think it should be awarded to Hibernian as out of all of the teams left, Hibs were the first ones to win it. Therefore it is logical, and i say that completely objectively, that it goes to Hibs.
11-04-2020, 09:02 AM
Hibs4185

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Originally Posted by Aldo

I’m late to this party and by god what a party it has been!

The thought process of some Hibs fans (I apply this very loosely btw) suggests the fairest way to sort the winners of this years Scottish cup is goal average (or games win so far this season).

Dear o dear!

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Interestingly, there is also thread on kickback regarding hearts winning the cup using this methodology....
11-04-2020, 09:03 AM
hibeerealist

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Originally Posted by TheHarpy76

Hearts have a 100% record. We don’t, we needed a replay.

You must be great company in the pub before or after a game!
11-04-2020, 09:04 AM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by James Stephen

I think it should be awarded to Hibernian as out of all of the teams left, Hibs were the first ones to win it. Therefore it is logical, and i say that completely objectively, that it goes to Hibs.

I'll vote for that.

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11-04-2020, 09:05 AM
FilipinoHibs

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Originally Posted by Hibs4185

Interestingly, there is also thread on kickback regarding hearts winning the cup using this methodology....

I smell a Troll. Has kept us amused in these long days.
11-04-2020, 09:08 AM
KeithTheHibby

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Originally Posted by Greenworld

The SFA have already said that's what is to happen

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When? Have you got a link?
11-04-2020, 09:10 AM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs

I smell a Troll. Has kept us amused in these long days.

I enjoy the pure logic of the argument here.

Applying it to the league for a moment, Hearts have the fewest points, won fewest games and have the worst goal difference so it's great that the comments on kickback seems to suggest Hearts fans buy into such a straightforward formula for the criteria for their relegation.

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11-04-2020, 09:21 AM
Aldo

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

You are totally factually correct. I just can’t believe anyone thinks a cup competition would ever be settled this way.

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You would think Ozzy however I would suggest this would be the way of thinking of some (not Hibs fans however)

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11-04-2020, 09:22 AM
Aldo

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Originally Posted by Hibs4185

Interestingly, there is also thread on kickback regarding hearts winning the cup using this methodology....

Reeks of utter desperation and let’s face it it’s the only way they would come even close to winning anything.

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11-04-2020, 09:23 AM
Greenworld

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Originally Posted by G B Young

It might be what they'd like to happen but they will ultimately be dictated to by circumstances. The chances of life returning to a level where we could safely host these ties in the next few months are slim to non existent. Allowing 100,000 people to converge on Hampden over a weekend is a long, long way off.

They are not talking of the next few months they are talking August / September in the new season...

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11-04-2020, 09:24 AM
brog

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Originally Posted by Hibs4185

Interestingly, there is also thread on kickback regarding hearts winning the cup using this methodology....

Our "discussion" started because of the sickback thread.
11-04-2020, 09:24 AM
Rumble de Thump

For "objectively" read "maroon-tinted specs"
11-04-2020, 09:27 AM
Greenworld

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Originally Posted by KeithTheHibby

When? Have you got a link?

It was an interview on TV with the sfa a few weeks back . It was quite clear that they valued it to ntended it to be completed early in the new season

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11-04-2020, 09:27 AM
NadeAteMyLunch!

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Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762

They seem to think they should be awarded the Scottish Cup on account of goals for :rolleyes:

Utterly deluded fools to a man (or woman) :bye:

Without giving their mental ramblings enough credit to actually count how many goals they’ve scored, they can’t have scored more than us surely? We scored 6 against Dundee Utd(I’ve counted the replay since we’re being ridiculous anyway), 4 against BSC and 5 against ICT. In fact, just give us the trophy now I think of it.
11-04-2020, 09:29 AM
brog

Apologies if already covered in depth previously but I just read the Dundee statement & it's a belter! Reads like it was written by the ******* child of Self Sufficient Southern & Jumbo Traynor while on a night out with Begbie! Incoherent, meandering, sanctimonious shi*e!!
11-04-2020, 09:34 AM
Aldo

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Originally Posted by brog

Apologies if already covered in depth previously but I just read the Dundee statement & it's a belter! Reads like it was written by the ******* child of Self Sufficient Southern & Jumbo Traynor while on a night out with Begbie! Incoherent, meandering, sanctimonious shi*e!!

Attention seeking to appease their hordes.

They still have time to vote but I bet Budge has them on speed dial with a wee sweetener.... after 34 years Potter will come and finally clean that bog!!

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11-04-2020, 09:34 AM
tamig

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Originally Posted by Greenworld

They are not talking of the next few months they are talking August / September in the new season...

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Even then I’d reckon there’s a good chance it would take place behind closed doors. The cup this season should be binned as far as I’m concerned.
11-04-2020, 09:35 AM
Rumble de Thump

Did anyone actually manage to decipher what Dundee were on about in their statement? Have they made a decision? What's their stance? What do they want? What are they on?
11-04-2020, 09:36 AM
we are hibs

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Originally Posted by Keith_M

That would only be a reasonable proposal if clubs are restricted to use only players that are currently registered with that club.

If they allow new signings to play, then it's utter nonsense.

Conrad Logan only coming in at the semi final stage was a nonsense then? If all 4 clubs agree to it then im not sure why it couldnt happen. It may give us a better chance of winning it as this current squad have no chance, if we are being honest.
11-04-2020, 09:37 AM
JimBHibees

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Originally Posted by brog

Apologies if already covered in depth previously but I just read the Dundee statement & it's a belter! Reads like it was written by the ******* child of Self Sufficient Southern & Jumbo Traynor while on a night out with Begbie! Incoherent, meandering, sanctimonious shi*e!!

Actually couldn't make out which way they voted based on the statement. Seemed a bit Budge like.
11-04-2020, 09:39 AM
tamig

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Originally Posted by Estupendo

Did anyone actually manage to decipher what Dundee were on about in their statement? Have they made a decision? What's their stance? What do they want? What are they on?

My take was they want the league to recompense the clubs for the gate receipts that would be lost in the event of the season not completing. Fantasy island nonsense and totally unrealistic in today’s climate.
11-04-2020, 09:40 AM
JimBHibees

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Originally Posted by Estupendo

Did anyone actually manage to decipher what Dundee were on about in their statement? Have they made a decision? What's their stance? What do they want? What are they on?

:agree:
11-04-2020, 09:41 AM
KeithTheHibby

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Originally Posted by Greenworld

It was an interview on TV with the sfa a few weeks back . It was quite clear that they valued it to ntended it to be completed early in the new season

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Sorry I thought you meant it wasn’t going to be played at all[emoji1303]

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11-04-2020, 09:42 AM
Billy Whizz

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Originally Posted by KeithTheHibby

Sorry I thought you meant it wasn’t going to be played at all[emoji1303]

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Going to be some game and atmosphere, if they think we’ve played a part in their demotion😄
11-04-2020, 09:45 AM
tamig

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

Going to be some game and atmosphere, if they think we’ve played a part in their demotion😄

If it gets played I suspect there might be no atmosphere at all Billy.
11-04-2020, 09:47 AM
Billy Whizz

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Originally Posted by tamig

If it gets played I suspect there might be no atmosphere at all Billy.

You make a great point, which would be a shame
11-04-2020, 09:52 AM
Caversham Green

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Originally Posted by tamig

Even then I’d reckon there’s a good chance it would take place behind closed doors. The cup this season should be binned as far as I’m concerned.

I'm in two minds about that. On the one hand it's an easier competition to call null and void than the league, but on the other hand there are only three games to be played and they can be played at any time. In the case of the leagues there are something in the region of 200 (I think) games to play and they have to be completed before the start of next season.

The only reason the Duncans want it called is that they know they've no chance of reaching the final.
11-04-2020, 09:53 AM
G B Young

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Originally Posted by Greenworld

It was an interview on TV with the sfa a few weeks back . It was quite clear that they valued it to ntended it to be completed early in the new season

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The world has changed beyond recognition since 'a few weeks back.' There's not a chance the SFA could commit to that now.
11-04-2020, 09:55 AM
G B Young

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

Conrad Logan only coming in at the semi final stage was a nonsense then? If all 4 clubs agree to it then im not sure why it couldnt happen. It may give us a better chance of winning it as this current squad have no chance, if we are being honest.

Nothing in that post makes sense.
11-04-2020, 09:56 AM
Greenworld

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Originally Posted by G B Young

The world has changed beyond recognition since 'a few weeks back.' There's not a chance the SFA could commit to that now.

Why

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11-04-2020, 09:58 AM
we are hibs

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Originally Posted by G B Young

Nothing in that post makes sense.

Erm. It does though. Clubs couldve signed free agents before the semi's were originally due to take place like we did with Logan which couldve changed the course of those semis. This is the exact same situation.
11-04-2020, 10:02 AM
JimBHibees

SFA will definitely play the Scottish cup as one of their main sources of income. Only 3 games so definitely will happen and should happen imo.
11-04-2020, 10:04 AM
Billy Whizz

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Originally Posted by JimBHibees

SFA will definitely play the Scottish cup as one of their main sources of income. Only 3 games so definitely will happen and should happen imo.

Delay it as long as they can, so supporters can go
Only issue with the delay, is the European place, although I can’t see European games starting as early as normal
11-04-2020, 10:10 AM
JimBHibees

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

Delay it as long as they can, so supporters can go
Only issue with the delay, is the European place, although I can’t see European games starting as early as normal

European place will go to 4th place league position.
11-04-2020, 10:11 AM
Danderhall Hibs

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Originally Posted by JimBHibees

SFA will definitely play the Scottish cup as one of their main sources of income. Only 3 games so definitely will happen and should happen imo.

How much would they make if the games have to be played behind closed doors?
11-04-2020, 10:12 AM
Jim44

Before we stray away from the ‘Hearts should be awarded the Cup’ based on statistics so far in the competition, I notice that the poster, forcibly defending the principles of this nonsense, has changed his tune over the years.
In a thread discussing our elimination from the cup in a penalty shoot out against Dundee United in 2014, someone argued that, instead of a penalty shoot out, matches should be based purely on match statistics. The poster, who in this present thread is pro the use of statistics to decide the winner of this year’s competition replied back then :

“Would you be complaining about penalty shoot-outs had we won on Wednesday night?

It's the best and most exciting way to resolve a cup tie.
Leave it to stats? Erm...no ta”

Interesting.
11-04-2020, 10:13 AM
Billy Whizz

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Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

How much would they make if the games have to be played behind closed doors?

Nothing
11-04-2020, 10:17 AM
JimBHibees

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Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

How much would they make if the games have to be played behind closed doors?

Assume they will expect fans to be there.
11-04-2020, 10:45 AM
Greenworld

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Originally Posted by Jim44

Before we stray away from the ‘Hearts should be awarded the Cup’ based on statistics so far in the competition, I notice that the poster, forcibly defending the principles of this nonsense, has changed his tune over the years.
In a thread discussing our elimination from the cup in a penalty shoot out against Dundee United in 2014, someone argued that, instead of a penalty shoot out, matches should be based purely on match statistics. The poster, who in this present thread is pro the use of statistics to decide the winner of this year’s competition replied back then :

“Would you be complaining about penalty shoot-outs had we won on Wednesday night?

It's the best and most exciting way to resolve a cup tie.
Leave it to stats? Erm...no ta”

Interesting.

Oh dear damn history eh LoL

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