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It’s one of those that if it’s your team that scores he wasn’t interfering but if you’re the defending team he definitely is. I honestly think you could argue it both ways but as they said in commentary, they’re more interested in finding ways to disallow goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by we are hibs
Two managers who didnt want to lose and set up accordingly.
If your aware of a guy standing in the way your not going to throw yourself into him offside all day long the fact Jenas can’t see it should be enough for his P45Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Pretty poor game TBH 😴
Aye. 2 teams no arsed about winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762
Why do they all cover their mouths when they're talking to each other at the end?
To avoid being lip read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
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Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
On paper all of these games today don’t look too interesting however I have a feeling all of them could be tasty.
Especially Türkiye v Portugal and Belgium needing to win !
I think Turkey v Portugal sounds like a great tie.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdinMike
Reminds me of Deek’s goal against the yams at ER when Fletcher was standing in an offside position but not interfering with play, obviously Gordon said he was but goal was given.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
A few of these Georgian players love a mazy run, good game so far
1-0 Georgia after a pen award for handball. Then the Georgia keeper makes an unreal save! He's some keeper.
Love an underdog ! Mon the Georgians !
Finished 1-1, that means that a draw may be enough for Scotland to qualify, depending on the results in Group B and Group F, where the third place teams only have 1 point with tough last games.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdinMike
There is no chance whatsoever that Scotland are going through with 2 points and a goal difference of -4Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
Boy just posted on twitter that if spain italy portugal and turkey win their last games in the groups then Scotland would qualify with 2 pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
Looking forward to this game , should be goals in it 😀
It's unlikely but not impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
The Georgia and Czech draw helped us.
https://x.com/scotlandscoeff1/status/1804532080786756076?t=Ofp_x3kzy-pRPz2xvR8D5g&s=19
And he's right on checking the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
However I will stand by my statement that Scotland wont qualify with two points and -4.
I would look forward to coming on here and admitting I was so wrong.:greengrin
Thing is ours is the first section to finish so we really have to look to win the game
Obviously Scotland are looking to win the game, all I am saying is if we were to draw there is still a good chance we could still qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
I'm confused by this, ESPN still says 2 points won't be enough to qualify, because I assume the bottom two teams play each other in the final game and at least one of them will go over 2 points and overtake Scotland, who will have the worst goal difference at 2 points -4.Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
I assume major media outlets will have done their sums. Edit, the BBC also have Scotland as dead last in third place position, 6th of the 6 groups.
A few preseason friendlies today in Scotland. Only result I’ve seen is Brechin 0-2 Dundee Utd
Did Ronaldo try to win a penalty just as Portugal scored there lol
Currently that is the position, however if Scotland were to draw tomorrow, they would move to 2 points which would put them to 4th position of the 6 groups.The teams below them who could displace them from 4th would still have to play their final game, but all are not fancied in these games.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Don’t think so -the deflection probs put him offQuote:
Originally Posted by Irish_Steve
That has to be own goal of the year. :greengrin
What on earth happened there.
The bottom teams don't play each other though. I've checked and it can happen but a draw would leave us in a very sticky situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
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Originally Posted by Tambo
Crazy own goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Won’t see a worse own goal at this tournament 😵
Lmao
What on earth was the defender doing ? He didn't even look to see where the keeper was 😂
Lee Dixon scored a belting own goal, lobbed Seaman about 40 yards…..
Don’t say that - I’d quite happily take one worse or better than that - depending on how you analyse it - from the Hungarians - or even 3Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
We must be about 1 more own goal away from some sort of Euros record :)Quote:
Originally Posted by scm70nyd1973
You’re right, thats irrelevant info on my part, but i dont think it’s mathematically possible for us to qualify with 2 minus four. And if it is, it requires a ridiculously large number of results to go our way, plus some heavy amount of goals. Certainly not a ‘good chance’ if qualifying with a draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
I’d take it right nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
I think this checks out. Also I think England hammering Slovenia by 5 goals would remove the need for Turkey and Portugal to win. Not likely though and we best not rely on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
See my twitter link above.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Slovenia are super unlucky not to have qualified by now, i fancy them to get something against England. The group thats most likely to help Scotland is the Spain Italy group, but Albania and Croatia are both capable and you need one more group for all the pieces fall into place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
I think the three groups where we can be a better 3rd placed team on 2 points areQuote:
Originally Posted by green day
Group C
Denmark win and England win by 5 goals leaving 3rd place on 2pts and worse GD than us.
Group B
Spain and Italy win leaving 3rd place on 1pt
Group F
Turkey and Portugal win leaving 3rd place on 1pt
We obviously only need two of these to play out, or preferably we just win :)
Thanks, brain slightly scrambled:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by green day
Obviously Scotland are looking to win the game, all I am saying is if we were to draw there is still a good chance we could still qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
Did Ronaldo just pass from a goalscoring position. I’ve seen it all now.
Define ‘good chance’ :greengrin im no statistician but its less than a 1/4 surelyQuote:
Originally Posted by crash
Admittedly it’s nice that our tournament isn’t necessarily over at FT tomorrow with a draw. Going through with a 4 goal defeat and 2 draws makes a joke of the whole group though.Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
Big result for Portugal as the runners up of this group will probably be up against France .
They will instead face a 3rd place team, maybe even us. Game changer for them despite the fact i would actually fancy them against France.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Ridiculous performance by Pepe 😁
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Originally Posted by Paul1642
I know an English own goal will get most people excited but you’ve taken it a bit far there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish_Steve
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Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Not sure how everything works but if we win tomorrow are we guaranteed to qualify aye?
I’m not sure If it’s a mathematical 100% but it’s a sure thing bar a ton of crazy results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zazu62
Yes. As utterly embarrassing as Steve Clarks "4 points is the aim" chat was, it will be enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zazu62
Was it embarrassing or him just being realistic considering the group Scotland got? .Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
4 points from Germany, Switzerland and Hungary would be anything but an embarrassment.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Whether or not we can achieve it is another matter.
That's the way to start a game :greengrin
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Originally Posted by Paul1642
4 points would be fine, yeah. Saying you are actively aiming for it before a ball is kicked us embarrassing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
"Yes, our plan is to lose one, draw one and win one of those games"
inspirational.
[QUOTE=Zazu62;7689083]Not sure how everything works but if we win tomorrow are we guaranteed to qualify aye?[/QUOTEQuote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
We Are bottom of the table of third place teams. Unlikely that Albania or Croatia will win but if there is an upset in Group F from Georgia or Czech Republic then we’re out unless we beat Hungary by plenty.So I think some people are far too confident .
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[QUOTE=ancient hibee;7689127]But its not just those groups. Other groups could end with 3rd place on 3 as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zazu62
Take Englands group, if they win then as long as Serbia dont beat Denmark then 3rd will have 2 points.
Edit - Sorry, as long as Slovenia dont beat England then the most third would have is 3 points!
There is nothing inspirational about setting unrealistic, unachievable goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Pre-tournament, 4 points would almost guarantee progression from the group and with a strong possibility of doing so in 2nd place - something never done before by Scotland at a major tournament.
There is plenty of research in the field of sports psychology about the importance of setting objectives which are attainable and realistic.
Group E Is becoming a very interesting group !
I just find McCoist really annoying...he really is. That's one of the clichés he always uses. I don't hate him, he sometimes talks sense, but he is really annoying...I've got to say (another of his clichés).
Big fan of McCoist as a commentator. Brings enthusiasm and fun to games as someone who is just a big fan of football.
Scotland beat Spain to qualify. Beating Switzerland and Hungary is not a unrealistic objective. Setting the absolute minimum isn't great imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
Why put unnecessary pressure on players when 4 points is all we need. Had Clarke set an objective of beating both, the players would be going into a hugely important game on Sunday having failed in their pre-tournament objectives by not taking 3 points on Wednesday - failure to achieve objectives can have a negative impact on motivation.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
They are professional players playing for clubs like Villa, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man United, Celtic. They can handle being asked to win 2 fairly even matches imo. Poor excuse is pressure.
Would you be happy if Gray came out and said were aiming for 6th and maybe a cup semi because he might upset the players if we aim high?
Steve Clarke wont have been saying to his players ah just get beat of Germany, then draw with the Swiss and then beat Hungary. He will have been asked whats important, 4 points, to get through. As for your analogy, it would be like Gray saying ah we have to win the next cup game 6 nil......not just getting through the tie.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Why is that not a penalty to Romania? Handball was pretty clear.
I've got say your talking nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhibee
Best British commentator at the moment, not that that’s necessarily a hight bar to meet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lago
Came off a team mate a yard away.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
Some of the best things about this tournament are the costumes on display, just seen Belgian fan with a beacon on his helmet, brilliant.
No issue with Du Bruyne studding the keeper at knee hit after touching the ball?
My thoughts are if that's anywhere else on the pitch it's a minimum free kick possibly a red? But it's a goal. Maybe I need to see it again 😅Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
I know it did, but didn't realise there was any leeway given for that sort of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
If he's stretching for a pass in midfield that's probably a booking if the ref sees it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
Doubt they would really want the negative press if they applied the same logic and had to rule out a goal.
Was thinking that. If that is a central defender winning the ball and his boot is knee high probably a redQuote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
Always been that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
I thought De Bruyne looked offside for the 2nd goal, probably need to see it again.
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Originally Posted by ekhibee
I cannot ****ing stand him !! The media love him but he's an absolute erse that uses the same gags
So he doesQuote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
He really doesQuote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
It's been a enjoyable tournament so far and will probably get better when it comes to the knockout stages.
Think the flick on was from the defenderQuote:
Originally Posted by ekhibee
The Switzerland v Germany game tonight . I read that if Germany win it they will likely have to play Spain in the quarter finals. If they didn't win it would they get a more favourable draw ? .
It is correct that they would likely end up paying Spain in the QF however if I’m not wrong coming second would have them likely playing England in the QFQuote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
German manager was asked about it , said his team will play to win and you can't change a winning mentality though I did wonder if the lost to the swiss would it be better .Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
I'd rather play England than Spain on current form tbh .
Don't think big teams think like this. About 25 European cup medals in that German squad, they'll rightly be thinking they can beat anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
You are assuming England will win their group 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Good point! Maybe the Germans have consulted with the biggliest team in Edinburgh what they would do in this situation?Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
All they do in UEFA competitions is lose and sing about Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
Very surprised to see Germany make zero changes. A risk I think.
Swiss are 1-0 up.
Great for us (in terms of England having as tough a route as possible to a hypothetical final)Quote:
Originally Posted by DH1875
The English have their own 1-5 comfort blanketQuote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Jesus Navas starting for Spain tonight. Guy seems to have been around forever lol.