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Trumps wife released hers on Sunday, $MELANIA, WTF is going on here apart from fleecing the public? There maybe a coherent plan behind this but I don't get it and I'm astounded they're allowed to do it. I suppose they don't have anyone to answer to now.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Dunno. But it could be, maybe, a way of getting round political donation rules; the disclaimer on Trumps made the point, several times, that it had nothing to do with politics. Means foreigners can give him money too. It was suggested that that's what the gold watches / trainers and all the other tat was about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Bee
Or maybe trying to promote the sector, like Queen Victoria getting on a train. His new techie bffs would probably like something back for their money.
Trump withdraws from Paris Climate Agreement, Again
alongside Iran, Libya and Yemen as the only countries in the world outside the 2015 pact.
he also plans to withdraw from the World Health Organization
just signed an executive order pardoning 1,500 Jan 6th insurrectionists, he's releasing criminals
Mehdi Hasan on X: "Donald Trump plans to try and end birthright citizenship via executive order. He can't. The 14th Amendment is very clear on this, as is Supreme Court precedent. Watch & share my explainer: https://t.co/nhe87yVKoM" / X
i didn't watch ANY of the circus today but looks here like he's off his frikkin face Jim Stewartson, Antifascist ����������*☠️ on X: "Messianic psychopathy fueled by ketamine — and reinforced by an impenetrable bubble of cultish sycophancy — is a hell of a drug. The Frankenstein of unregulated capitalism officially has its Monster. https://t.co/FYY5TL9QOi" / X
. One of Trump’s first moves as president is to release
1,600 capitol rioters pardoned. Priorities.
It's funny how obviously repulsed Trump's wife is by him.
In the video of them dancing at the inauguration ball she visibly flinches when he leans in towards her and she looks about as comfortable as Ian Paisley in the Vatican.
100% the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Although being called a hypocrite is something that Trump won’t care two figs over.
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Great news.
An executive order has been signed to rename the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America and to change Denali back to Mount McKinley.
'Getting so much done in the first 12 hours' says Musk. The obvious benefits of these two moves to your average rust belt American are obvious. Prosperity and streets paved with gold are surely only a few days away. It's good to see a President tackling the big issues of the day.
Day one looks like most of the 4 years previously. Lots of flashing of signature, very little effect on anyone in America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Some immigration changes but until he funds the enforcement part it won’t change much. Every thing else was just nonsense.
For the average American, life hasn’t changed one bit.
Until he works out how to get things through Congress I guess Americans will just need to get used to these performative signature sessions again.
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The camera caught him giving her a peck on the cheek at the Trumpiasco. He was about 2 inches from her face and I don’t think it was to avoid smudging her makeup. She clearly hates him but is hypocritical enough to know which side her bread is buttered on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
4 more years of that would do nicely, thank you very much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Hunners of song lyrics being re-written as we speak :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
https://www.lyrics.com/lyrics/gulf%20of%20mexico
Part of the fascist playbook is to blame democracy for holding them back. It won't be long until he's going after Congress and his supporters will lap it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
He’ll need to be quick. The public has the chance to choose its congress in less than two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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:agree: Not sure if congresspeeps are officially part of the swamp that needs drained, but if they're not it only takes a couple of lie-filled speeches to make them so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
What do we need to rename this thread? (Hopefully soon to be) Current President Former President Donald Trump?
Complete lack of any sign of altruism on any of their faces.
https://youtu.be/gVInX42IQD8?si=g-xPXFqggnKjSo27
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Erm, when did Spain do this?
https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1881742318702927902
The thread title should be changed, as it could accidentally be getting people's hopes up.
That aside, is the war in Ukraine finished yet?
I watched the news tonight absolutely stunned at what's going in. Surely the americans who hold the constitution so dearly won't let him away with just changing one of the amendments by his pen stroke. I know you shouldn't compare with Hitler and the Nazis but it was what was going through my mind the whole time. God saved him so he could make America great again. Ffs!! It is genuinely unsettling. Talking about annexing Greenland, Panama etc.
There will be no changes to the constitution in the next 4 years. It takes a 2/3 majority in both senate and Congress. Neither party is getting that.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Most of the daft announcements yesterday will never happen.
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Brilliant. Thanks for sharing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
The bishop showing the real nature of Christianity.
She has just been put on a list. :rolleyes:
An alternative view:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
President Donald Trump views himself as a "wartime president," according to a new article in The Bulwark, but his enemy isn't a rogue state — it's the American people themselves.
In an article published Tuesday, Bulwark Editor Jonathan V. Last wrote, "I don’t think there’s any way to read yesterday except as President Trump deciding that with the Republican party fully subservient to him, he can subjugate the other remaining power centers in American life. He can finally be a wartime president. It’s just that he’s going to war against America."
Last wrote that Trump's war with America is unprecedented, "Or at least: We haven’t had a president view Americans this way since Reconstruction."
Trump made it clear during the inauguration that he's "governing not for all Americans—and not even just for the benefit of 'his' voters—but as an attack on the half of America that opposed him," Last wrote.
According to the article, Trump "believes that Democratic voters should not be bargained with or bribed, but intimidated, punished, subdued—and rendered unable to oppose him in his quest for total power."
And Trump is going to use all the power at his presidential fingertips to ensure everyone falls in line. This includes using the courts, government bureaucracy, and mob rule to get what he wants. Last wrote that Trump released the J6 rioters, even the violent ones, for a purpose: "The message is unambiguous: Trump wants supporters who engage in street violence on the loose. He wants a paramilitary arm for which he has plausible deniability."
Last continued, "Freeing those convicted of violence is a go-ahead signal for future violent acts and an implicit promise that Trump will take care of those who fight on his behalf."
The target of Trump's power campaign is anyone who lives in a blue state, Last wrote. "Trump understands that blue states are the last bastions of meaningful popular opposition to his rule, so he will use the federal government to subdue them. That’s what deportations—and tariffs—are for. These are executive powers which can be used in highly-targeted ways to hurt on local economies."
So, "If you live in a blue state, President Trump is going to use the power of the federal government to make your life harder."
I just don’t see how that happens? Nor does that paragraph? That might be how Trump feels but I don’t see how he does it?Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
He can issue an executive order to deport 11m people but he then has to go to congress and get the $billions needed to enforce it?
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He likes a good signature pic, and as PB alludes to above it might be that whilst the rust bucket boys got theirs day 1 it will be some time before the grift dawns on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Adolf Hitler, Eva Braun, Joseph Goebells and Magda Goebells with but one thought …. ‘Shut up, bitch!’Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
She could have went fire and brimstone (torture by burning in an eternal fire) but kept it on a "look within yourself" tip.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Sadly if this lot looked within themselves they'd see nothing other than a chasm filled with greed and vanity.
You have to think the VP sees an image of an awaiting gallows every day.
Hope the Bish lives long and her message ("be excellent to each other"*) sinks deep.
*sermon on the mount, innit.
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This terrible excuse for a human being just gets worse.
All mentions of Jan 6 investigation removed from FBI website. Pardons almost all of those involved, essentially giving the thumbs up to assaulting officers.
Puts government employees involved in diversity and equality programmes on paid leave and cancels all these with immediate effect.
The US is a disgrace.
Once he has a proper paramilitary up and running, if that's his plan, I'm not sure that getting congresspeeps to bend to his will will be too much of a problem. Perhaps he freed all those thugs because he felt a deep seated sense of injustice on their behalf, or perhaps he saw something in the transaction for himself, the scamp. Time will tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Brown shirts?Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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Brown underpants for the rest of us, if Trump's aim is to overturn democracy in the USA, as that would have worldwide repercussions. There's already some essentials in place: a supreme court made in his image which has declared that it's not possible for him to break the law; Musk for propaganda machine; he's surrounded by people too frightened to tell him in real time that Spain and South Africa are different places; the normalisation of lying; etc etc. The idea that the US's precious constitution would prevent him achieving anti-democratic aims seems a bit like Chamberlain waving his bit of paper to demonstrate that there was no threat to peace in Europe in the 1930s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
It kind of feels a bit like the heroin/HIV epidemic of the 80s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
2 or 3 decades before there had been scare stories and propaganda about cannabis and warnings that just one joint could send you on a downward spiral of drug abuse, delirium and death. Then came LSD and the same warnings but this time with added 'you'll think you can fly and jump off a building'. Around the same time as heroin really took off ecstasy came along and that was the same, just one pill would kill you and it was the most dangerous drug ever. All nonsense of course but many were so desensitised to the warnings that when a genuinely dangerous drug like heroin took off many didn't heed them. When it became clear in this instance it was gravely dangerous it was too late.
Trump feels similar. People have heard 'fascist' or 'Nazi' thrown about for years. Sometimes justified, other times hyperbole. But now we have people who may be worthy of the name. Modi, Trump, Musk, Farage........ and I think many are a bit disbelieving because they have 'heard it all before'. It's a dangerous place to be in and the opposition to Trump and his ilk really needs to be better. If the best that can be offered as an alternative is another Biden, Harris, Starmer or similar then the rise of the right is going to continue like a juggernaut.
More like black Fred Perry polos with yellow piping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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Aye, it's not what the uniform looks like, it's what's in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
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I wish I could disagree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Might be time for the EU to be more than a bureaucracy and trading functionary? Never been a better time for a collective front somewhere, lucky the UK has taken back control though.
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the guy Americans/everywhere else should have had as a president https://www.facebook.com/senatorsand...7845509882106/ i just can't understand why the guy in the street can't grasp that multi-billionaires in charge is never going to be good for us
Aye but he's said there is only 2 genders and you can't put a price on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Hopefully some of those who voted for him and will now struggle to afford essential medicines can take some comfort in that fact.
Yeh but he offers no hate, elections world wide are showing us that people need someone to hate other than their useless ****ing selves.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
How can a country be truly great when people can afford prescriptions? It can't. Go Donald!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
The pardoning of all of the J6 rioters is really pretty staggering, and has immediately made America a much more dangerous place for many people.
Which of course is the point of that **** doing it, but that country’s descent into the depths is well underway.
I’m curious to know with whom the power of pardon lies with in the UK. The precedent of no or limited punishment for crimes committed in the name of a political candidate is unbelievably dangerous, and it’s terrifying to think where we may end up in the next few years.
Pretty much spot on. Very brave words and good on her for that pity a few more people didn’t show the same level of integrity and courageQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
This is the sort of things Americans deserve for the next 4 years. There are consequences in life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
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The thing that scares me about it is the lack of avenues open to the good guys to counter it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
Rise above it and you risk getting beaten back by force. Lower to his level and you’re just the same as him.
It’s tempting to criticise those who have maybe been meek in opposition and allowed his rise but in truth, it’s hard to see at times what could have been done differently without being open to accusations of doing all the things we’re rightly castigating Trump for - presidential pardons etc.
I wonder if Biden could have done more post Jan 6 to prevent a Trump revival? There really should have been no way back for him from there.
Justice Secretary on behalf of the King.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
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Biden operates at half pace for everything. No way it should have taken 4 years to bring him to court. He deserves the hate coming his way for letting this happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
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Incredibly clever too though.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
She’s in a privileged position where she can speak honestly without fear of reprisal. The good ol’ Christians of the USA probably wouldn’t take kindly to a savage attack on her.
Good words, well chosen and a point very well made at a very important moment in time.
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Facebook now making people follow Trump and Vance.
Think I’ll delete it tonight. Haven’t missed X, doubt I’ll miss Facebook either. There will be a replacement along soon enough anyway.
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Was talking just yesterday about how the many people who highlighted at the start of his first term that this is how fascism starts, were criticised for being OTT and/or diminishing the effects of literal fascists throughout history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Well, here we are in 2025, with a president who has just consolidated the private militia that was formed in his name when he instigated the insurrection in 2021, and is governing via executive order - and going after every possible minority. We've even had two actual Nazi salutes during the inauguration.
I think you are spot on in your assessment about people being desensitised to the warnings, and how dangerous that is. But the warnings were spot on.
Wouldn't count on that. Besides, she's Catholic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
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Danish MEP has a message for Trump
https://bsky.app/profile/paleofuture.../3lgc7bsnl2c22
Ironically if he had, then he may have been guilty of what Trump kept accusing him of - but wasn't. He could have directed Merrick Garland to work much more quickly than he did. If I remember correctly, they only started the investigations of Trump after he announced he was running again. So it was the presumption that he'd be in the political wilderness after J6 that was extremely foolish and dangerous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
It does feed into your point about not wanting to stoop to the levels of the opposition, and trying to take the high road. Republicans do no such thing and look where it's got each respective side. It turns out the race to the bottom and the pathway to victory were one and the same. Unbelievably depressing.
The Republican party takes the blame for pretty much all of this. Their utter shamelessness through all of this, is how we have ended up where we are. Once they fully embraced Trump again, they simply won the (mis)information war, and constantly threw so much mud that loads stuck. Many, many people saw the Democratic party as how the Republicans have constantly painted them for the last decade, despite how detached from reality that is.
Evangelicals who embrace Trump have zero principals. He is their God.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Their apparent religious devotion is really only an interest in controlling the lives and actions of others. They'll have no qualms about going after her, and many already have.
Freedom of speech only applies in certain contexts for these ****ers.
I'd be stunned if she is Catholic, unless our liberal (by Catholic standards) Pope has gone rogue:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Every chance she could be Anglo-Catholic right enough which is theologically not far removed.
Don’t know if it’s been mentioned in the 7000 odd previous posts but a podcast on BBC Sounds called The Coming Storm gives an insight into the MAGA hive mind.
At this very time it's hard to feel sympathy for anyone who will suffer as a result of this if they bought into the big orange guys promises.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Maybe his plan is a bit of cleansing
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Your right. She is Episcopalian. Someone I heard on yt ascribed her to Catholicism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
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Thread title needs changed.
4 years to go!!
This is getting close to being a valid occasion to utilise the seldom relevant “that would be an ecumenical matter” Father Jack gif.
I’ll bet you anything you like that the USA will never ever invade or annex Greenland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
You can’t really think this will be anything like Ukraine/Russia?
The chat on Greenland and the Panama Canal is for Chinese ears. Surely you guys can see that?
I don’t speak Chinese.[emoji6][emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
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And what is it telling the Chinese other than it's OK to threaten other sovereign nations?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
Trump not v impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
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Imagine releasing a bunch of violent criminals into America. What a thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Maybe one day we'll catch up with the piskies and have female clergy. Or go back 1000 or so years when it was common:greengrin Either way works for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
What a gigantic, despicable man baby he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
More of a child-baby really. Does he really not understand the difference between asylum seekers and mental hospital patients, or is he just being clever with his moron base? It's hard to tell with infants. :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
I’m not as convinced as some others that it’s cut and dried that choosing these words with this person is going to go down well with the entirety of his following.
Remember - this is a nation who have voted him out before, as well as voting him in twice.
He’s in his last term. He no longer has a need for any of these people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
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Attacking the Church must be a new way of him giving the middle finger to his base.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
If you genuinely and truly care about morality, you cannot vote for Donald Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
If someone thinks they are a moral person, but still voted for him, then they are deluded, and their morality is really of little importance to them.
Evangelicals have been a massive part of Trump's success over the years, and it's no surprise - he knows a right good con when he sees one. The hypocrisy of everyone involved is somehow both shocking, and yet entirely unsurprising.
The American Evangelists who make up the bulk of Trump's Christian support base won't give two hoots about him digging out an Anglican Bishop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
They'll hold such 'high Church' clergy in disdain. If anything it will boost his questionable Christian credentials among such types.
Not if he unexpectedly expires.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
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Trump Jr would prob end up taking his place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
You can see it happening already. They want to be the new Kennedy's.
You could be right, but a double expiry is always possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
So I say keep the title, for future generations
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I think it's more warning the Chinese to stay away from Greenland and that the way the Panama Canal is being run needs to change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Both of these are fair points.
Talk of military action can be ignored. He'll push for a deal with Panama and continue to work closely with Denmark.
With a bit of research maybe someone could reclaim Florida?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
There's a monstrosity of a building there
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The Seminole?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
They could repatriate Trump to his Motherland.
Maybe not.
[emoji23]Wouldn't last 5 minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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Trump is clearly an erse.. but how is the Mexico/Southern border such a mess? Why did they let so many illegal criminals into America in the first place? Sorry I don’t follow politics but I seen bits of it on Monday when he was saying he has declared a national emergency at the border.
The Wee Frees would have him burnt at the stake :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
It’s 2000 miles long. Very hard to secure. The proportion of criminals crossing is lower than the proportion of US citizens already there.Quote:
Originally Posted by K-Zazu
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20 minutes on the niddrie, Bingham or magdalene border would do me.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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Niddrie/Bingham border with check point charlie and watch tower at the right hand side armed with snipers 🫨Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Border Emergency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridge hibs
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Trumpton?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
But with a better wall?
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Because it’s an extremely complex problem (and don’t be fooled by Trump’s chat of criminals flooding into the country - he’s just released a huge amount of violent criminals himself).Quote:
Originally Posted by K-Zazu
Populists like Trump always claim that they have easy answers to complex issues, but they never do. The talk of him stopping border crossings overnight is utterly ridiculous.
As Ozy has already pointed out, the border is massive. The amount of resources it would take to cover all of it - either by manning it, or resuming the building of his legendary wall - is huge. And that’s just one of the problems.
Let’s also not forget that he killed at least one bipartisan bill that would have seen a huge amount of money, and human resources allocated to managing the border. He wanted to campaign on a problem, rather than have his own party contribute towards fixing it.
Whatever the numbers are like in the coming weeks, he’ll claim he’s fixed it anyway. He’ll do the same with the economy - he’s spent months claiming it’s dog ****, but when it continues along the same path he’ll claim it’s all down to him.
Is the orange guy a criminal "flooding" the country because he is an overweight **** of a certain age and mandatory requirement to wear certain types of underpants?
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Here’s a thing, but you can’t say it.Quote:
Originally Posted by K-Zazu
They need immigrants to keep their economy ticking over. To pay taxes and to pay into pension pots.
But you can’t say it.
Ralphie May (RIP) is Bob on. 6 minutes or so in.
https://youtu.be/ye77HfHPCKs?si=FnDAJbSfzV3TRtwU
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Haven’t watched the video but Ralph doesn’t look like he’s be overly concerned with the price of salad.[emoji6][emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
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Prophetic or what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
He had a better understanding of what makes their base economy tick than the folk who are going to be running it now. No wonder the orange guy never actually built the wall first time around.
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Enjoyed that.[emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
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They'll purchase Greenland and direct all the migrants towards there. If climate change works as scientists say the flow of migrants won't stop and Greenland will be a bit greener. The Dick Dastardly version has them developing the newly exposed land on Greenland - they mine/frack it to **** paying the migrants buttons/nowt. All those resources go towards building their big space ship and they escape to Mars [see ye, widnae want to be ye].Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
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Class! I wonder if Ian Hislop also has an involvement with private eye in AmericaQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Watch the video, he’s great. Sadly he died unsurprisingly with weight related illnesses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
He’s a hilarious guy, I only discovered him after he died. His Cuban Coffee story had me crying.
He’s spot on with much of his social commentary.
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The quiet stuff said out loud
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That last line is a pretty scary thought, MAGA to succeed where Nazi Germany failed, WOW!!Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
It's fine. He just got caught up in the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
I mean, everyone throws a nazi salute now and again when that happens, right?