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Worth bearing in mind that we managed to bring Gray, McGregor, Ambrose, McGinn, Fyvie, McGeouch, Stokes, Boyle and many more to the club when we were in the Championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaulGoodman
We finished third and got into Europe. There will still be plenty of players who will be keen to join us, even if our offering is marginally less appealing to some than it might have been had Saturday’s result gone the other way.
Scored far more than Myko and Gayle in a poorer team, I’d take him but think he’s on his way down south, I also like the goalie for county looks like we’ve got out goalie thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
He was actually on double that as a gross wage. He's currently on just shy of £30k gross. I don't really envisage a situation where he comes back to Hibs at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by 500miles
:agree: Players aren’t signing 3/4 year contracts on the basis of playing 3 months of group stage football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Comparing him to our 4th choice striker is a bit silly. Gayle is a lot more prolific when he played.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmas
The type of player we are in for won’t have really changed, IMO. And hardly any of the players we are in for will have the offer of group stage European football from elsewhere either. When McGrath signed for us, it was still more likely Aberdeen would be in Europe than us. He still signed for us though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
The only thing that might have changed is our transfer budget. Had we secured group stage then we could have tried to buy Triantis, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
However, if we still manage to qualify for either EL or CL groups, would qualification be achieved before the transfer window slams shut :hmmm:
Not loads in it when looking at there goals per minute ratio. When you add that Ross County create significantly less chances than us think it would pretty much even it up. In no way am I saying he's better than Gayle. However I definitely think he would be a good option. Imagine he will be pretty cheap now as well considering they have been relegated. 100-200k ISH ?Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
The day it slams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
Last min splurge then :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse
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Originally Posted by patlowe
Motherwell sign Austrian Lukas Fadinger. Sound like he has a decent pedigree tbh.
Wonder how he feels, probably signing for a manager who’s moved onQuote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Ronan Hale would maybe be a useful signing and cheap considering county just got relegated. 36 games played 12 goals for a team who finished 11th is not bad.
Would take. However, even at around 250k it's a fair outlay for someone who would unlikely be first choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribs1875
Tbh I can see Defensive Dell being in for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by yerauldda
If we can sign Hale then it’s a must.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribs1875
McInnes might be in for him but there’s no chance Hale goes there.
There is nothing more surer he is going to be in for these type of players with proven SPFL Experience. Everywhere he has went he has just done that. I always remember when he signed Adam Rooney, that was the first of many players we were in for who he would then move in on.Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew70
Why is there no chance Hale goes there?Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew70
A Hearts fan has done a detailed breakdown of Hale
https://x.com/liamastewart/status/19...T_cnYbURW-GKJw
From the second Ross County's relegation was confirmed fans have of various Premiership clubs have started discussing Ronan Hale and if he is worth a pick up particularly with rumours of a relegation release clause.
Hearts fans are no different and with Shankland's future still currently a mystery let's take a look and see what the numbers say.
The headline number been thrown around is Hale's 12 league goals this season from an xG of 10.77 - which makes Hale on of just four players outside of Celtic & Rangers to reach the milestone for the season.
Three of Hale's goals came from the spot, leaving nine non penalty goals throughout the season.
A look at those goals further shows;
- Two tidy finishes from tight angles at the edge of the area against Motherwell & Hearts
- A powerful effort unmarked inside the box after getting on the end of a poor clearance against St Mirren.
- Two fantastic runs and finishes against Motherwell, left and right footed.
- A nice turn and finish against Motherwell following a poor piece of defending.
- An incredible finish against Hearts curling one in from the edge of the area and a similar goal against St Johnstone and a tap in against Dundee United.
That means when you breakdown Hale's non penalty goals for the season he scored against Motherwell (4), Hearts (2), St Mirren (1), St Johnstone (1) and Dundee United (1).
The immediate concern for Hearts would be stylistically how he fits McInnes' desired system - a manager that wants width and pace out wide and targets in the box, at 5'7 Hale is certainly not that.
There is of course a precedent for McInnes having some amount of success with smaller forwards, Anderson at Aberdeen and Kilmarnock, and Hale's off the ball movement and ability to attack the space in behind could link up well with Shankland if the striker re-signs.
Hale's numbers tell the story of County's season with the 26-year-old putting up a huge volume of shots and dribbles per 90 but with a below standard completion rate.
No Hearts' player took more shots than Hale (91) while his 37.35% SOT rate ranks lower than any of Hearts' CF options - to be expected with a shot volume almost four times that of Wilson, Vargas, Musa and Kabangu.
His 13% goal conversion rate sits above Musa & Shankland, while only Musa & Vargas, both of which had significant minutes out wide, produced more dribbles per 90 across the season with Vargas the closest comparison.
Hale matches Kabangu's 30% offensive duel win rate despite 25% more duel output per 90.
His 2.61 touches in the box per 90 is lower than any Hearts CF and aligns with the type of goal Hale scored most throughout the season around the edge of the area - but is also easily put down to the deep position and low possession game that County played with the lowest average time on ball in the league throughout the 24/25 season.
This trend continues when you look at Hale's creative and ball progression numbers - with the 26-year-old ranking lowest from Hearts CF options for passes per 90 and fourth for pass accuracy.
The closest comparison on the ball, in terms of output, is James Wilson with the two forwards on par for passes per 90, pass accuracy, passes to the final third whilst Wilson just leads in shot creating actions and xA per 90.
There's clear quality in Hale, but with Elton Kabangu and potentially Lawrence Shankland looking like they are sticking around and James Wilson having a breakout season it is hard to see where Hale would fit in - we have already seen that quality at County doesn't always translate to instant impact at Tynecastle - Yan Dhanda - and lacking tactical versatility from Hale makes it difficult to see how he would fit in for Hearts next year even at a cut price - Musa & Kenny could both leave which would make Hale one of four central options which would make the deal more likely but after a strong individual season is the County man going to accept a spot on the bench? Sam Dalby feels more of a natural fit but with Hearts missing out on Europe potentially a harder name to bring in particularly with interest in Scotland and down south.
Just checked a comparison between Hale this season and Simon Murray for Ross County last season
Simon Murray;
League games - 37
Goals - 14
Assists - 4
Play off games - 2
Goals - 2
Assist - 0
League cup games - 6
League cup goals - 7
League cup assists - 1
Ronan Hale;
League games - 36
Goals - 12
Assists - 0
Play off games - 2
Goals - 2
Assists - 1
League cup games - 3
League cup goals - 3
League cup assists - 0
Jamestown tactics have taking over the body of this clueless hearts fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Why is it a must? I think we can do much better personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew70
The priority in terms of forwards IMO is someone with a similar profile to Myko, if he’s not coming back.
He certainly seems to be a finisher, but not sure he’s much else. Don’t think he’s that good on the ball, or has genuine pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler Durden
That said, hard to judge in a team with no creativity.
It’s a long winded way of saying that Hale isn’t any better than what they have. Which is true and applies to HIbs aswell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribs1875
Aberdeen are probably a different story as they don’t appear to own a half decent forward as things stand.
Hale's not good enough for Hibs, from what I've seen of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew70
We're aiming for much better.
I’ve always thought there’s a barrowload of goals to be had for a poacher type from the crosses Chris Cadden puts over. Maybe a penalty box type like Hale would be the type to capitalise?
He’s a very good striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler Durden
Should have signed him from Cliftonville to be honest
If we are then fair play, doubt we will though. Would be a great option up top.Quote:
Originally Posted by babahibs
I think it's better to have an option like that than not to.Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew70