https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...-keir-starmer/
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Speaking on his LBC show, he said: "I am deeply perturbed to see three Conservative MPs, including an actual Minister, sharing online a heavily-doctored video from an obviously far-right account.
"Those three MPs have really allied themselves this morning with the forces of dishonesty and disgrace, although I'm sure they will all take measures to admit and withdraw their appalling errors at the very first opportunity."
Nadine Dorries :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by jonty
International comparisons ok again then, aye? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Honestly, how someone with such poor judgement can be part of the Government and get such an easy ride is scary.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
I've never been a big fan of social media, but Twitter seems to be getting worse with regard to accounts with a wide reach and zero accountability.
How are these *******s getting away with this. Every single briefing or statement is a fabrication, full if lies, revisionism and downright made up *****. The right wing media in this country, and I actually include the BBC on this one, are pathetic and are not holding any of these ministers to account. The break up of the disunited kingdom cannot come quick enough. Elitist snobs mostly from one school in England ruling for the minority not the majority. It is shameful
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Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
It's not a new phenomenon.
Well said!Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Coupled with those ********s forcing through a no-deal brexit that Scotland didn't vote for I can't see this "union" lasting much longer...
This was always coming.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/489201-uk-s...ticians-covid/
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Have we just given up with this thread now? We all now just accept that if you are a Tory you will be a lying *******? That briefing was probably the worst thing I have ever seen from any politician anywhere. Those ****s would give trump a run for his money.
Something has to give. How about his chums in the ring wing media turning against him? No PMQs this week, what have they got to lose? Of course it will end up with the likes of Raab as PM but at least it would be a start.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Sorry, I've had a bit more than my usual Sunday afternoon quota of 2 glasses of wine...
I am going to hold my nose while writing this but I think there are some Tories who genuinely believe in their political principles.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
I won’t ever find myself agreeing with them but I can understand their rationale, even if it leaves me cold to the bone. At least it is honest. I would probably rank people like Peter Bone and maybe Gove in that camp. I would never want their views informing any policy decisions but I respect that they are probably genuine views, based on their ideology.
Johnson’s briefing was appalling and will come back to haunt him again and again. It makes him appear weak and in thrall to Cummings. It also makes them all appear opportunistic. My sense is that more stuff will emerge about Cummings - the fact that the Guardian and Mirror are all over it and the fact that he is so unliked within the Conservative Party -and he will need to go. The longer he stays before his ultimate demise, the bigger the damage for BJ. Boris is doubling down but I can’t see how it is sustainable. His problem is that he doesn’t seem to have anyone other that DC talking in his ear.
I thought your first comment about Steve Baker this morning. I detest his politics, particularly on the EU, but at least he’s consistent. Would have been pretty easy for him to stay quiet about Cummings or fall into line, especially given they probably have some Brexit history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Yeah, I know where I stand and I am old enough that if I shift, it will be in graduations rather than transformations. I genuinely don’t mind Tories who are genuinely committed to their viewpoint. Will always struggle my understanding of their views, but I can take someone who has taken enough time to think and articulate their thoughts, even if it appals me. So as long as it doesn’t sink into dog-whistle, racist, homophobe etc then I am fine. The older I get, the more I like reading or hearing contrary opinions to mine, it challenges me more. Makes me reflect more and sharpen my own thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
Cummings and the erg loathe one another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
Is that because there is a rivalry as to who can be the most loathsome?Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Didn’t know that. Any idea why?Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
It’s starting to sound like Cummings doesn’t have a lot of goodwill banked anywhere outside of Johnson and Gove.
They tried to bin him from vote leave quite early in the brexit campaign. Basically because he was rude about them. He outmanoeuvred them but has been feuding with them on and off since, eg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham...mings-tory-mps
The thing about Cummings and Brexit is he doesn’t really care about sovereignty or immigration or any of that stuff. He wanted out of the EU as an excuse to and to make it easier to rip up Whitehall.
Cummings and Johnson, ****ing lying *******s and and embarrassment. Anyone who voted for these snake oil salesmen needs to go and have a long hard think about what the **** they have done. They wouldn't know the truth if it punched them in the face. An act that I find myself dreaming about more and more. Sunday's briefings and yesterday's statement have left the UK as a complete laughing stock. Scotland at least has a way out of this that I hope to god we grasp next time, but I feel sorry for England as they are stuck with ****bags like them for good
Cummings wants to watch the world burn and rebuild in his own ideology.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
The ERG genuinely hate Europe but respect the small c conseveratim. Deference to process, tradition and hierarchy. All because those systems make them ritch.
Cummings has no regard for such things. He hates the Civil Service and the EU is another of those beaurocracies in his opinion.
With BREXIT they were uncomfortable bedfellows.
Seriously recommend watching BREXIT - THE UNCIVIL WAR on Channel 4 catchup. Benedict Cumberbatch plays Cummings (before anyone knew who he was) really digs into the Cambridge Analytical scandal (remember that) and how they manipulated the British public.
Anyone (especially in Scotland where’s there’s a get out route) who is content to be ruled by these snake oil salesmen needs their bumps felt.
Have a look at the trailer.
https://youtu.be/3U9PtoH5bsM
Link to the drama.
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/...he_uncivil_war
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Ha, without reading your post I used “snake oil salesmen” in my response. and the face that Scotland can GTF out of the Union. (Also I’m stuck with them).Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Guess there’s a theme.
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Whenever I see Gove I think Littlefinger. Hope he meets the same fate.
This nails Dom I think:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-cummings-data
Nothing to see here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52826751
What'll be the punishment for this? Absolutely nothing I’ll bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
It’s a disgrace.
Brexit ****baggery happening whilst Barnard Castle hogs the limelight.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
https://truepublica.org.uk/united-ki...ng-far-darker/
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Dom's father in law opines:
https://twitter.com/samjknights/stat...06126526631936
I know this doesn't necessarily tell us anything about Dom but Jesus ****** Christ! They really are as bad as people like me think they are.
This, otoh, does tell us that Dom is just as much of an entitled prick:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...g-gove-adviser
Creepy, bottom feeding 1930's fascist creepy.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Ironically coming over as an inbred monster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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Incredible to think reprobates like that exist in this day and age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
What angers me as I have dealt with Humphrey Wakefield on a professional level and always found him respectful and not up his own arse. His employees seem to like him and he has always paid well compared to others in the area. Seeing this makes me feel I have been duped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato