Climate change, WHO, EU, for example.Quote:
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Climate change, WHO, EU, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Trips
Watching youtube videos isn’t research no matter what it is your looking into. What methods are you using to fact check? Or just putting ‘clinton human trafficker’ into google?Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
That always makes me smile, just a wee bit mind. Trump is the epitome of the establishment. Multi Billionaire who looks after his friends and family in business and politics. Who was started in business with a loan if £1m from his dad. Not many people start if in life that way. Look at his friends list as well and you will see he is no better or worse than the Clintons. I am not trawling the internet for links or evidence of his wrong doings or thiers. Anti establishment my hoop!Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
WHO undermined Trump when he wanted to close the boarders. They have blood on their hands. Trump wants only whats best for USA. NZ close the borders 2 days later and everyone celebrates the good leadership. Only because it suits their narrative. NB the NZ PM has strong communist ties and a poor human rights record.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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Originally Posted by Captain Trips
on a personal level, at the moment, no my finances haven’t been affected. However when he is openly provoking other nations (north Korea for example), consistently and without facts blaming other nationalities for his country’s ills (Mexicans), regularly threatening to step out of or damage organisations like the UN and WHO, amongst other behaviours that impact on the world’s population, then yes I’d say it’s fair comment to describe him as a negative affect on all of us
provoking North Korea, had Clinton won it would have been war. He visted North Korea and has walked a tight line to manage them with a silk glive in ine hand and hammer in the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by McD
Totally agree that Ardern is a bit suspect. Her face is hardly orange at all. What's that all about? :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
I'm not really sure what "facts" you're referring to here? Or what point you're trying to make about a "silent majority"?Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
Scary how The most ardent of Trump supporters wear their ignorance like a badge of honour.
What on earth are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
Trump's core support is a large not so silent mixed bag of nuts, racists, religious zealots, misogynists, gun freaks, conspiracy theorists, homophobes, rednecks, corrupt businessmen, shysters, snakeoil salesmen, right wing bampots and a multitude of other freaks and egocentric misfits. When you gather all these nutters together then you guarantee a pretty solid base electorate. But just because the lunatics have taken over the asylum, doesn't mean they're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
Do you work for Fake Fox News?Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
Trump wants America open for business so his false claims on his economic miracle can stand for the election campaigning. He does not want and has never wanted his own borders closed, it wouldn't show up well for his good bestest ever leadership.
Sorry but did you just accuse Jacinda Arden of being a communist!!Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
Whatever you are taking I suggest you lay off it for a wee while...
I haven’t seen a single poll that suggests this?Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12058818Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
It's not me suggesting it. I am just pointing out what others have said. I don't think it that simple. I happen to agree with several of these policy considerations of Arden. But certainly not all.
Seems like you have been manipulated into believing whatever the alt-media tells you. You have been brainwashed like all the other sheep, ever thought about thinking for yourself instead of just believing everything you are spoon-fed by the alt-media? Wake up! You are being lied to by these alt-media grifters on YouTube who earn money per view via advertising. Let me guess, these grifters ask you to “make a donation” to their “cause” at the end of the video? The oldest grift in the book, selling a lie and then taking the money of gullible people.Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
I am not suggesting anyone should be believing anything. In fact that is the point I am trying to make. I don't believe any PM or president is all good or all bad. But when everyone is jumping on a bandwagon I like to to look at what others are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
This sounds exactly like what someone who has been drinking the alt-media kool-aid would say.Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
Also, I’m sorry to tell you this and it may be hard to hear but Donald Trump isn’t alternative or the “other” guy He is the president of the United States of America, that’s probably as mainstream as it gets buddy. He controls the world biggest military power. Christ, even before becoming president your guy was the star of the most mainstream reality tv show on mainstream US television.
Your alt-media brainwashing has convinced you that one billionaire American business man is less mainstream than another billionaire American businessman.
Don't forgot the $320bn tax cuts for his corporate buddies. What an anti establishment hero!Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
By that logic, does that mean Donald Trump is also a communist?Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-c...-debt-to-china
So many bankruptcies with Trump as well, for a "successful" business man it's easy to believe hes a con man who plays the system and launders cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
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It seems Boris quite likes him as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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Now spitting the dummy because the media had the temerity to report his own words. Oh and because some people occasionally ask him awkward questions.
How anybody, no matter their politics, can remotely defend this guy I have no idea.
He makes Boris look competent by comparison. I can't decide whether it's better for Boris to have an imbecile in the White House or someone incredibly competent - someone with the ability to guide and help him but someone who has the potential to show him up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
One thing is for sure - the UK, in it's post-Brexit self-harm era, we could do with a strong, competent, outward looking USA to call an ally. That is something we'll never have with Trump.
He's indefensible. You can still just about muster up respect for the office that he holds, see past the fact that he's an utter imbecile and just get on with it, but it is impossible to condone this guy, his behaviour, his actions or his words.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
If some random doughnut appeared on TV advocating ingesting bleaches or putting yourself under an extremely strong UV light to kill this thing the reaction would rightly be one of horror. This donkey says it and his supporters twist all logic to condone him.
Dinny get it.
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With Trump its a character thing. We've all encountered people with a political compass totally opposite ends to our own, but you can respect those views if they are genuinely held and move past that to have friendships and enjoy their company anyway. But with Trump you just know he's actually of bad character. And like you, I cant believe how seemingly normal folk can defend him. Far less almost the entirety of the GOP, historically and supposedly the home of east coast yankee respectability. He's just downright bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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Originally Posted by spike220
a few points to reply to:
- can you provide proof that Clinton would have forced a war?
- do you accept that by provoking North Korea then Trump was risking a war? A war he would have been responsible for starting
- you’ve ignored everything else in the post, so can we take it that you agree with the rest of it?
Good luck getting a reply, as usual when the alt-media narrative they have have been brainwashed into believing is challenged they disappear.Quote:
Originally Posted by McD
Bloody flat earthers 😊Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen