The generic Hearts thread

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Originally Posted by 007

Surprised they're not going nuts. They've paid for the club but ownership hasn't been handed over for some reason.

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I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole either

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Anyone would think that it is only Hearts that are affected by the virus, not a day goes by but they are in the headlines for one reason or another. They must not be allowed to escape relegation because of the current situation. No other club in the country is having such a meltdown. All their troubles are self inflicted.

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Originally Posted by cocteautwin

That’s very weird.

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Are you aware you are chatting to yourself

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Originally Posted by underscore

Are you aware you are chatting to yourself

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Yes

Probably not the time for it but if the young fellah Andy Irving became available I’d like to think Hibs were interested. Local lad, albeit a Hertz ****, but likeable and has a bit of ability. Creative sort, left peg is a square peg with that lot.

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Originally Posted by underscore

Are you aware you are chatting to yourself

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That's the second sign of madness.
The first sign of Madness is Suggs coming up your driveway 😁

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...egated-2502930

Am I reading that right?

Stendel wants his wages to be used to top up the wages of the players he brought to the Club

His representative, Timo Rodewald, told the Evening News: “Daniel spoke to Ann and said he is happy for his salary to be used to pay other people. Some of the guys he has brought in have had to take wage cuts to be with him in Edinburgh, so Daniel wants to look after them. He wants to make sure they don’t take as big a cut.

Boyce on £6k a week, more than Aberdeen and others could afford. Turns out Hearts could not afford it either.

Here we go again... same old CHEATS.

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Originally Posted by bingo70

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...egated-2502930

Am I reading that right?

Stendel wants his wages to be used to top up the wages of the players he brought to the Club

His representative, Timo Rodewald, told the Evening News: “Daniel spoke to Ann and said he is happy for his salary to be used to pay other people. Some of the guys he has brought in have had to take wage cuts to be with him in Edinburgh, so Daniel wants to look after them. He wants to make sure they don’t take as big a cut.

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I am assuming Stendel is referring to his management team.

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Originally Posted by bingo70

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...egated-2502930

Am I reading that right?

Stendel wants his wages to be used to top up the wages of the players he brought to the Club

His representative, Timo Rodewald, told the Evening News: “Daniel spoke to Ann and said he is happy for his salary to be used to pay other people. Some of the guys he has brought in have had to take wage cuts to be with him in Edinburgh, so Daniel wants to look after them. He wants to make sure they don’t take as big a cut.

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What it says to me is he has no intention of working another day at that club.

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Originally Posted by cocteautwin

That’s very weird.

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Not really when it’s them

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Originally Posted by JimBHibees

What it says to me is he has no intention of working another day at that club.

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That’s very clear.


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Originally Posted by JimBHibees

What it says to me is he has no intention of working another day at that club.

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If all goes well over the next few weeks there might be quite a few others who won’t be working another day at that club. 100% of them.

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Originally Posted by bingo70

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...egated-2502930

Am I reading that right?

Stendel wants his wages to be used to top up the wages of the players he brought to the Club

His representative, Timo Rodewald, told the Evening News: “Daniel spoke to Ann and said he is happy for his salary to be used to pay other people. Some of the guys he has brought in have had to take wage cuts to be with him in Edinburgh, so Daniel wants to look after them. He wants to make sure they don’t take as big a cut.

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I thought that meant back room

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Originally Posted by BS44

They won't be relegated this season if relegation is suspended.

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In the unlikely event of relegation being suspended and they went into adminstration they would still face a 15 point deduction next. I think they know they're goosed next season - and might as well as start the closed season clear out sooner rather than later...

Anyone else looking forward to a rearranged semi final against a team that has been relegated and most of their squad has walked due to non-payment of wages?

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Originally Posted by JimBHibees

What it says to me is he has no intention of working another day at that club.

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Is he still being paid by Barnsley?

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Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy

I thought that meant back room

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Fair point.

Still think it’s strange to try and look after some people and not others.

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Originally Posted by jacomo

Anyone else looking forward to a rearranged semi final against a team that has been relegated and most of their squad has walked due to non-payment of wages?

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I still wouldn’t be confident
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Originally Posted by Joe6-2

I still wouldn’t be confident
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What could possibly go wrong? 🙄

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Originally Posted by Iggy Pope

Probably not the time for it but if the young fellah Andy Irving became available I’d like to think Hibs were interested. Local lad, albeit a Hertz ****, but likeable and has a bit of ability. Creative sort, left peg is a square peg with that lot.

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Ive always liked Callum Morrison & he could be available regardless.

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Originally Posted by Supermac

Anyone would think that it is only Hearts that are affected by the virus, not a day goes by but they are in the headlines for one reason or another. They must not be allowed to escape relegation because of the current situation. No other club in the country is having such a meltdown. All their troubles are self inflicted.

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To be fair its been an excellent strategy to adopt. Budge is no machiavelli and its likely been communications expert David Southern and others who've guided the club on this. They've succeeded so far firstly by very quickly claiming poverty which has developed into buying sympathy, appearing focused with leadership shown lapped up by most of the media and their fans and secondly relegation could be deemed as a cruel unedifying act if it happens that could galvanise their support in the form of adversity against the big bad SPFL that relegated them despite their now very highly publicised alleged financial woes.

Its looking more unlikely as every day passes that they're going to be relegated. It could be that the league positions stand with Celtic champions but no relegation or that reconstruction is given the green light instead.

Jammy sods.

How much of a say will Sky Sports have. If we get the league expanded would that not mean you would only play each other once home and away. Would have thought they would want the 4 Old Firm matches.

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Originally Posted by Col2

What could possibly go wrong? 🙄

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I would not bet on us beating eleven traffic cones draped in Hearts jerseys.

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Originally Posted by Supermac

Anyone would think that it is only Hearts that are affected by the virus, not a day goes by but they are in the headlines for one reason or another. They must not be allowed to escape relegation because of the current situation. No other club in the country is having such a meltdown. All their troubles are self inflicted.

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Agreed - Hearts and their 'Govan Bros' very public gnashing of the teeth, wailing and greeting that everything's 'not fair on us' is pitiful and mega cringe !. The Hun just don't want Septic to get one step closer to 10iar and the Jambos, once AGAIN - over-extended with money that they don't have are using the coronavirus to try and escape what they richly deserve !. WHY isn't our esteemed 'media'reporting on things as they truly are ??

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Originally Posted by Frankhfc

To be fair its been an excellent strategy to adopt. Budge is no machiavelli and its likely been communications expert David Southern and others who've guided the club on this. They've succeeded so far firstly by very quickly claiming poverty which has developed into buying sympathy, appearing focused with leadership shown lapped up by most of the media and their fans and secondly relegation could be deemed as a cruel unedifying act if it happens that could galvanise their support in the form of adversity against the big bad SPFL that relegatated them despite their alleged poverty.

Its looking more unlikely as every day passes that they're not going to be relegated. It could be that the league positions stand with Celtic champions but no relegation or reconstruction.

Jammy sods.

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So what about Dundee United. Surely they would have to get promoted and therefore relegation or reconstruction has to take place.

Weren't the media not ripping the top off it at the beginning of Queen Anne's reign about how well managed Hearts were under her highness and they were now the face of responsible finances?

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Originally Posted by CloudSquall

Weren't the media not ripping the top off it at the beginning of Queen Anne's reign about how well managed Hearts were under her highness and they were now the face of responsible finances?

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They were and you've got to question why when you look at awful job she's done. The absolute shambles of their stand should have had questions being asked never mind the football side of things, but barely a peep is heard. It's unbelievable, if that was us I've no doubt we'd hear much more about it.

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Originally Posted by jacomo

Anyone else looking forward to a rearranged semi final against a team that has been relegated and most of their squad has walked due to non-payment of wages?

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HC told me that Hearts would most likely still win.


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Originally Posted by CloudSquall

Weren't the media not ripping the top off it at the beginning of Queen Anne's reign about how well managed Hearts were under her highness and they were now the face of responsible finances?

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They created that particular narrative before she had even warmed her office chair at Tiny.

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"We've not been living out with our mean though have we ya wee prick? We can afford the wages if the business is able to trade as normal.



How the **** does that paper allow such nonsense to be printed?"

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Originally Posted by jacomo

Anyone else looking forward to a rearranged semi final against a team that has been relegated and most of their squad has walked due to non-payment of wages?

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nope, you did watch the last derby?

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Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy

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"We've not been living out with our mean though have we ya wee prick? We can afford the wages if the business is able to trade as normal.

How the **** does that paper allow such nonsense to be printed?"

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"I would tell Hearts to **** off"

That applies at any time in any situation.

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Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy

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"We've not been living out with our mean though have we ya wee prick? We can afford the wages if the business is able to trade as normal.



How the **** does that paper allow such nonsense to be printed?"

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What a bunch of thick ignoramuses they really are

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Originally Posted by Kato

Cheaper to re-enter admin, cry a bit, pick up the bones for a song and hey presto start again.

Debt all gone.

Re set the narrative back to "brave club battles back from the dead" and soak up the plaudits for "saving the club".

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I don't have any insight into their problems, but I'd expect that they're suffering from a lack of cashflow at the moment rather than an unmanageable debt burden.

Are none of them questioning why the loss of income from a semi they surely can't have been banking on has caused them issues so quickly ?

Wonder if Budge is going to now backtrack in light of the government's package of aid for employers/employees. Something like pledging to pay up to 80% of salaries up to a max of £2.5k per month backdated to 1st March. Would make a difference re the back office staff.

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Originally Posted by 007

Wonder if Budge is going to now backtrack in light of the government's package of aid for employers/employees.

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Only up to £2500 per month

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Originally Posted by Hibs4185

Only up to £2500 per month

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Yeah, just edited my post to say would make a difference re the back office staff.

The very best case scenario for hearts retrospectively is that they didn’t budget to have to spend their way out of relegation, hence the big hole in their finances.

Anything other than this and they have, at best, been living dangerously. At worst they’ve been either grossly incompetent or grossly negligent.

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Originally Posted by percy veer

nope, you did watch the last derby?

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Did you watch the one before that?

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Originally Posted by brog

KiwiD's a hoot! The Dunkirk spirit for a German! Love it!!

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Imbecile. Him, not you. 😀

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Originally Posted by Hibs4185

Only up to £2500 per month

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Good that it will help those in most need.

I cannot stand Boris, but against my better judgement he is impressing me.

Back on topic, good luck to the Hertz admin staff. Still hope they get relegated.

Hearts don’t have any external debt similar to ourselves. Admin would only really allow them to clear some players out. Budge has a loan for £1.9 million outstanding and her brother £750k supposedly.

Budge maybe hasn’t transferred the shares because if FOH was running the club and went into admin to then it would be her and her brother getting shafted.

That’s why I think she is holding back on the transfer and keeping her position. Being the decision maker rather than the fans or FOH, ensure’s hearts survive in order to get her cash back.

Today has been a great day for Budge. The vast majority of her non playing wage bill will now be picked up if she lays them off.


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Remarkable that the media is fawning all over these cheats! Not one of them have the balls to ask the real questions, must be some kind of Masonic love in

So live outwith your means, tell staff to take a 50% pay cut or bolt, put staff on unpaid leave yet..... the poppy thieves once again cone out smelling of roses.

For the love of my why do folk think she’s great. Basket case of a club and out didn’t what they’ve made yet she’s seen as some dirt of messiah!


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She'll be fuming she didn't backdate the pay cut to March 1st now.

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Originally Posted by Seveno

So what about Dundee United. Surely they would have to get promoted and therefore relegation or reconstruction has to take place.

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Yeah, surely Celtic couldn't be crowned SPL league winners without Dundee United getting crowned Championship league winners?

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Originally Posted by 007

Imbecile. Him, not you. 😀

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Thanks!!😁

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Originally Posted by Geo_1875

She'll be fuming she didn't backdate the pay cut to March 1st now.

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She’ll be fuming she embarrassed them by jumping the gun when the govt is now going to pay 80% of their salaries anyway if she is laying them off. Of course if she wants them to keep working then she has to pay 100% of their salary.


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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

She’ll be fuming she embarrassed them by jumping the gun when the govt is now going to pay 80% of their salaries anyway if she is laying them off. Of course if she wants them to keep working then she has to pay 100% of their salary.


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If only her players on £6 per week had taken a small reduction...

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Originally Posted by AltheHibby

Good that it will help those in most need.

I cannot stand Boris, but against my better judgement he is impressing me.

Back on topic, good luck to the Hertz admin staff. Still hope they get relegated.

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Are you serious about Johnson? He didn't take the drastic steps necessary until today. Advice is never going to cut it. Football/rugby stadia were shut down by their own governing bodies, not by the govt. One week ago today, the Cheltenham Gold Cup was run. In 4 days 250k people went racing, drank & dined in crowded bars & restaurants. Last Wednesday 4,000 fans travelled from the worst hot spot capital in Europe to Liverpool without restriction. For nearly 2 months our strategy was completely the opposite of every other nation. As a result we're now weeks behind in tackling this awful situation. He's an incompetent charlatan, who's completely out his depth & people will die unnecessarily because of his failings. All IMO of course but the comments above are all facts. Other than that I agree he's doing a good job! 😂

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Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy

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"We've not been living out with our mean though have we ya wee prick? We can afford the wages if the business is able to trade as normal.



How the **** does that paper allow such nonsense to be printed?"

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I'll hazard a guess that the brighter part of Edinburgh stopped buying it decades ago so they have to print what the Duncans need to hear or they cease to exist like their team?

Just a guess on my part.

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Originally Posted by brog

Are you serious about Johnson? He didn't take the drastic steps necessary until today. Advice is never going to cut it. Football/rugby stadia were shut down by their own governing bodies, not by the govt. One week ago today, the Cheltenham Gold Cup was run. In 4 days 250k people went racing, drank & dined in crowded bars & restaurants. Last Wednesday 4,000 fans travelled from the worst hot spot capital in Europe to Liverpool without restriction. For nearly 2 months our strategy was completely the opposite of every other nation. As a result we're now weeks behind in tackling this awful situation. He's an incompetent charlatan, who's completely out his depth & people will die unnecessarily because of his failings. All IMO of course but the comments above are all facts. Other than that I agree he's doing a good job! [emoji23]

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I'm looking for something wrong in this post and failing miserably.

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Originally Posted by Joe6-2

What a bunch of thick ignoramuses they really are

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Clicked the link. I know they’re a strange bitter bunch, but even by their reprobate lowlife standards, I’m amazed not one of them can see how critical the mismanagement has become. They’re spending cash like it’s Monopoly money, but in the fans eyes, they’re living within their means! Unbelievable. Blaming the lost revenue from semi final. How can you budget for a cup run?
Some fans on hear feeling sorry for them to. While i sympathise with the staff being given the pay cut or get sacked ultimatum, the blame lies solely with the gross mismanagement of the board. 100%. Shameful excuse for a football club. I’d be mortified if we acted the same way. There lies the difference between a bitter twisted club, & a proud, well run community club. Proud to be a Hibby!

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Originally Posted by AltheHibby

Good that it will help those in most need.

I cannot stand Boris, but against my better judgement he is impressing me.

Back on topic, good luck to the Hertz admin staff. Still hope they get relegated.

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He has no option to do this. Labour would have to do it anyway. We will get shafted afterwards but at least jobs are safe but feel for those who have lost them already

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Originally Posted by chrisski33

He has no option to do this. Labour would have to do it anyway. We will get shafted afterwards but at least jobs are safe but feel for those who have lost them already

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The whole thing is sad. The Government were slow, but at least they've got us moving now.

Here's hoping we can get back to some sort of normality soon.

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Today has been a great day for Budge. The vast majority of her non playing wage bill will now be picked up if she lays them off.


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Yet more evidence she is clueless and out of her depth.

Most businesses were waiting on the government’s announcement before making any decisions re: staffing.

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Originally Posted by Kato

I'm looking for something wrong in this post and failing miserably.

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Yeah, if only Jeremy was calling the shots now.

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Originally Posted by Corstorphine Hibby

Yeah, if only Jeremy was calling the shots now.

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Didn't support him either bud, but carry on with the sarcasm if it makes you happy. BJ will carry on with his cack-handed bluster changing tactics with the wind. He could always wave his magic flags and give us all a giggle, that'll beat the virus.

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Originally Posted by Corstorphine Hibby

Yeah, if only Jeremy was calling the shots now.

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In economic terms at least, this government has turned socialist.

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Originally Posted by brog

Are you serious about Johnson? He didn't take the drastic steps necessary until today. Advice is never going to cut it. Football/rugby stadia were shut down by their own governing bodies, not by the govt. One week ago today, the Cheltenham Gold Cup was run. In 4 days 250k people went racing, drank & dined in crowded bars & restaurants. Last Wednesday 4,000 fans travelled from the worst hot spot capital in Europe to Liverpool without restriction. For nearly 2 months our strategy was completely the opposite of every other nation. As a result we're now weeks behind in tackling this awful situation. He's an incompetent charlatan, who's completely out his depth & people will die unnecessarily because of his failings. All IMO of course but the comments above are all facts. Other than that I agree he's doing a good job! [emoji23]

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Agree every word.

The die was cast when Cheltenham went ahead, it's all been talk and presentation with very little substance since.

Until Bozo paints it on the side of a bus I won't believe a word he says[emoji6]

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

Agree every word.

The die was cast when Cheltenham went ahead, it's all been talk and presentation with very little substance since.

Until Bozo paints it on the side of a bus I won't believe a word he says[emoji6]

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The two weeks hesitation in arranging a shut-down, remember he wanted CV to 'sweep through the populace', will turn out to be a huge mistake.

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Originally Posted by Kato

The two weeks hesitation in arranging a shut-down, remember he wanted CV to 'sweep through the populace', will turn out to be a huge mistake.

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Only if enough folk remember, when it's over he will unashamedly launch another three word slogan about his triumph over the virus and the nation will rejoice like when Brexit got done[emoji6]

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Not a fan of Boris or Nicola but do you really believe they are making these decisions themselves? They are not they are relying on the scientists and health experts.You dont think Churchill made all the decisions during WW2 without advice from the armed services.There is no easy answer and we should all ease off our political bias until this awful virus is beaten.Then by all means get stuck into the awful Conservative parties views.

Hearts are f*****g sh¡te.

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Originally Posted by The Count

Not a fan of Boris or Nicola but do you really believe they are making these decisions themselves? They are not they are relying on the scientists and health experts.You dont think Churchill made all the decisions during WW2 without advice from the armed services.There is no easy answer and we should all ease off our political bias until this awful virus is beaten.Then by all means get stuck into the awful Conservative parties views.

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Its not political bias, its facts. Can anyone answer why the UK went in a completely different direction from every other nation & have now completely changed tack? Why did we get it so wrong?

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Originally Posted by 007

Hearts are f*****g sh¡te.

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Well done we are back on topic and away from politics !!!

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Originally Posted by AltheHibby

Good that it will help those in most need.

I cannot stand Boris, but against my better judgement he is impressing me.

Back on topic, good luck to the Hertz admin staff. Still hope they get relegated.

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Yes he's stepped up to the plate well. Sturgeon too. Both have clearly been well advised and it's heartening to see how aligned they are at this time of crisis. Sunak was especially impressive today considering he was only handed the job a few weeks ago. I wouldn't have wanted May in charge at this time or, perish the thought, Corbyn (who I still spot popping up occasionally trying to make political mileage out of this). And Americans must just be praying Trump has some astute medical advisors because he is clearly way out of his depth.

Truth is, the world is trying to learn as we go with this nightmare and nobody knows for sure what's best. I have a cousin working in Cairo who says Egypt is essentially pretending none of this is happening and simply allowing the virus to do its worst. Terrifying.

As you say though, back on topic, and there is a degree of amusement that Budge may have blundered yet again here.

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Originally Posted by The Count

Not a fan of Boris or Nicola but do you really believe they are making these decisions themselves? They are not they are relying on the scientists and health experts.You dont think Churchill made all the decisions during WW2 without advice from the armed services.There is no easy answer and we should all ease off our political bias until this awful virus is beaten.Then by all means get stuck into the awful Conservative parties views.

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Think I'm intelligent enough to have worked the distinction out.

In this particular crisis I do agree and feel an empowered scientific and Health care led initiative with the politicians and their personal spin and rhetoric kept as far away as possible would have seen a better outcome than we're currently enduring.

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Originally Posted by brog

Its not political bias, its facts. Can anyone answer why the UK went in a completely different direction from every other nation & have now completely changed tack? Why did we get it so wrong?

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Every other nation? Really? I'm impressed if you know how every country on the planet has reacted to this.

In other news..... Looks like Channel 4 have bought the rights to the Hearts documentary and renamed it..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...5dcaa37455.jpg

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The government in the UK relied on behavioural psychology while the rest of the world were guided by epidemic disease science. BJ and co were widely criticised by the scientific and medical community. We are back in line now.

Back on topic. HEARTS ARE TOAST.

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Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs

The government in the UK relied on behavioural psychology while the rest of the world were guided by epidemic disease science. BJ and co were widely criticised by the scientific and medical community. We are back in line now.

Back on topic. HEARTS ARE TOAST.

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I really hope they are!

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Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs

The government in the UK relied on behavioural psychology while the rest of the world were guided by epidemic disease science. BJ and co were widely criticised by the scientific and medical community. We are back in line now.

Back on topic. HEARTS ARE TOAST.

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I really hope they are because they're leaving no stone un-turned (Ok, it's easier as most of their fans live under them anyway !!) in their efforts to get the media on their side about how unfair it would be if they're relegated !. Absolutely nauseating how they've used 'Coronavirus' to try and weasel their way out of relegation - truly a club for **** and run by **** !!

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Originally Posted by cocteautwin

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Queen and her Aberdeen castle can’t cope in perfect storm

There was a time, not so long ago, when Ann Budge could do no wrong. The Queen of Hearts extricated the club from administration, moved them in an exciting new direction with a new moral compass and oversaw an expansion of Tynecastle Park that was supposed to maximise their potential.

Well, the new main stand is reported to have cost £9million more than originally promised, Hearts are in the throes of another financial crisis and, while the shirt sponsor says Save the Children, this week’s call for all staff, including players, to take a 50 per cent wage cut suggests that it is the club who need saving.

What a spectacular unravelling it has been for Budge and Hearts in the space of 18 excruciating months. In the early part of last season, they were top of the league and into the semi-finals of the Betfred Cup, but the bottom was to fall out of a club that relied much too heavily on their manager, and director of football, Craig Levein.

Despite successive transfer windows in which he presided over a blur of expensive players coming and going, he had a team that was neither effective nor fun to watch and, when Budge relieved him of his duties in October, Hearts were bottom of the league and unable to arrest the decline.

Nobody quibbled with the level of investment, but then again, nobody expected Hearts to find themselves in a relegation battle. Add to that a new head coach, Daniel Stendel, whose tactics were ill-suited to a survival scrap, as well as a vacuum in the football department that Levein controlled, and a perfect storm was brewing.

When coronavirus came along, Hearts were the footballing equivalent of society’s most vulnerable — victims with an underlying health problem.

Budge has got a lot right, especially the club’s social ethos, but her ignorance of football matters left them playing catch-up. And there is no room for that when the game is crippled by a global health crisis.

The measures that were announced on Wednesday were desperate. PFA Scotland yesterday met with players to discuss the way ahead. Legal opinion suggested that Hearts were within their rights because of the language used in the statement. They only “proposed” the club-wide salary reduction. If staff were unwilling or unable to accept, they would be “offered” a termination of their deal.

If there is a clause in their contracts, entitling Hearts to suspend pay — and that theory was also doing the rounds last night — it is a kick in the teeth for players, especially those who were lured to Tynecastle on the promise of a lucrative package.

Steven Naismith, previously with Norwich City, signed a four-year deal last summer that was likely to be the last of his career. Liam Boyce agreed a three-year contract in January that is reported to be worth £6,000 a week, more than Aberdeen and numerous others could afford.

As it turns out, Hearts could not afford it either.


Budge claimed that the suspension of the season was going to cost them £1million, but much of that was due to come from a Scottish Cup semi-final against Hibs that they would not have budgeted for. The SFA promised this week that its flagship competition would be completed later this year.

While there was no official reaction from the players yesterday, some of their fellow professionals were angry. Tam McManus, the former Hibs striker, tweeted: “Seems a convenient way to dump some ‘excess baggage’ ie a HUGE wage bill run up by a succession of managers. This just doesn’t sit well with me at all.

“I would tell the club to f*** off. I have done so in the past when asked to take a 50 per cent wage cut. You sign a contract you honour it or pay it off in full.

“My loyalty is to myself/family. No loyalty whatsoever in football. Clubs treat players like s***e when not wanted.”

With so much uncertainty as to how or whether the Premiership season will be completed, the odds are against Hearts avoiding the drop, and their willingness to let players go suggests that they know it.

Bryan Jackson, who led the administration process in 2013, believes that Budge has moved quickly to prevent another one.

“Ann is looking at the situation, thinking, ‘we’ve already missed games and we don’t know when the picture will change’,” said Jackson. “ ‘It could be two weeks, two months or even longer — so we need to do something right now’. To me, that does seem to be the right thing to do. To wait too long and not do anything could be more dangerous for the sustainability of the club.”

Try telling that to the players. Try telling that to the academy coaches and backroom staff whose halved salary leaves them struggling to pay their bills.

It will be a hard sell also for the anonymous benefactors whose donations of up to £9million kept the club on an even keel for so long. And do not expect the supporters who have already donated a similar figure in the past five years to be quite so enthusiastic about digging deep yet again.

All of which will be embarrassing for Budge, who was hailed as the relegated club’s saviour in 2014 when she stepped in to repair the damage done by her reckless predecessor, Vladimir Romanov.

It would be stretching a point to suggest that Hearts are back where they started, but this was not how it was meant to be when she outlined her vision for the club.

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TBH Hearts relegation is the least of our human worries at the moment.

I have many Jambo friends who when i left tonight in the pub said cheerio and aw the best.

Their health was more important to me than their relegation.

For the moment.

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Yes he's stepped up to the plate well. Sturgeon too. Both have clearly been well advised and it's heartening to see how aligned they are at this time of crisis. Sunak was especially impressive today considering he was only handed the job a few weeks ago. I wouldn't have wanted May in charge at this time or, perish the thought, Corbyn (who I still spot popping up occasionally trying to make political mileage out of this). And Americans must just be praying Trump has some astute medical advisors because he is clearly way out of his depth.

Truth is, the world is trying to learn as we go with this nightmare and nobody knows for sure what's best. I have a cousin working in Cairo who says Egypt is essentially pretending none of this is happening and simply allowing the virus to do its worst. Terrifying.

As you say though, back on topic, and there is a degree of amusement that Budge may have blundered yet again here.

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Stepped up to the plate Boris and Krankie...have a word son.

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TBH Hearts relegation is the least of our human worries at the moment.

I have many Jambo friends who when i left tonight in the pub said cheerio and aw the best.

Their health was more important to me than their relegation.

For the moment.

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Nae tramps MATES😶

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...-take-21728537

They're still there! :faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

Just call the Administrators in now Budge. When's the next VAT bill due to be paid? May 7th?

Herald putting the boot in now:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...is/?ref=appshr

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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...-take-21728537

They're still there! :faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

Just call the Administrators in now Budge. When's the next VAT bill due to be paid? May 7th?

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Hated clicking on the link, but worth it!
It’s just beyond belief those two are still there!!!

Come on Hibs.net to get away from chat about CV guys. Let’s not turn the threads into huge political debates regarding gas Boris got it right or wrong or if you hate the tories or hate the SNP.

There are other forums for that and if I want poorly thought out political debate I’ll spend my time on Facebook!

Anyway, are Hears bust yet?

Come on Hibs.net to get away from chat about CV guys. Let’s not turn the threads into huge political debates regarding gas Boris got it right or wrong or if you hate the tories or hate the SNP.

There are other forums for that and if I want poorly thought out political debate I’ll spend my time on Facebook!

Anyway, are H bust yet?

Hearts lead to be followed by 12 clubs as SFA and SPFL brace for further coronavirus fallout
Hearts have already decided to offer wage cuts and a further 12 clubs could do the same.

Can't actually understand how the record are trying to make them out to be trailblazers!?!!

Two quick points to make

I think the only 2 options on the table football-wise are (i) Hearts get relegated on basis of current points IF all clubs are to receive end of season payments OR (ii) the remaining games are played after the virus crisis passes, in which case they are favourites to go down and have 8 games to save their Prem status.

And regarding the politics, Scots are in the unique position of having the best NHS in these islands, the best education system, and a policy framework that has (over the past 13 years) protected public services much more than Down South. That there are c.50% of people (mostly the elderly) who take take take all that and STILL think England knows best just makes me despair for them, but we are in the best shape of any nation in these islands to handle what's coming (and it will be awful, but at a crisis time like this I for one am grateful that neither New Labour or the neo con Tories are anywhere near real power in Scotland). People have no idea how decimated the NHS is down south for example.

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Agree every word.

The die was cast when Cheltenham went ahead, it's all been talk and presentation with very little substance since.

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Horse racing is still going in Ireland.

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Under-appreciated post, imho. :faf:

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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...-take-21728537

They're still there! :faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

Just call the Administrators in now Budge. When's the next VAT bill due to be paid? May 7th?

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Was announced yesterday that everyone's getting a 3 month tax holiday.

MacPhee and Levein were sharing the Sporting Director role so that's them getting half a salary each for doing half a job each, so still effectively on full pay for the amount they're doing. Before, they were effectively on double time.

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They must have decided to take a risk for one sport or occasion that could result in others who have no interest in it being exposed. Makes no sense but gives them the dubious honour of having something in common with the UK's initial "strategy".

I like my horse racing but won't be heading over[emoji16]

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Two quick points to make

I think the only 2 options on the table football-wise are (i) Hearts get relegated on basis of current points IF all clubs are to receive end of season payments OR (ii) the remaining games are played after the virus crisis passes, in which case they are favourites to go down and have 8 games to save their Prem status.

And regarding the politics, Scots are in the unique position of having the best NHS in these islands, the best education system, and a policy framework that has (over the past 13 years) protected public services much more than Down South. That there are c.50% of people (mostly the elderly) who take take take all that and STILL think England knows best just makes me despair for them, but we are in the best shape of any nation in these islands to handle what's coming (and it will be awful, but at a crisis time like this I for one am grateful that neither New Labour or the neo con Tories are anywhere near real power in Scotland). People have no idea how decimated the NHS is down south for example.

Stay safe everyone

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-38207729

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Every other nation? Really? I'm impressed if you know how every country on the planet has reacted to this.

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Well, just tell me 1 that went along with our behavioral based approach.

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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...-take-21728537

They're still there! :faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

Just call the Administrators in now Budge. When's the next VAT bill due to be paid? May 7th?

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VAT got cancelled yesterday. Next one not till June.


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In other news..... Looks like Channel 4 have bought the rights to the Hearts documentary and renamed it..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...5dcaa37455.jpg

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[emoji23] Fair cheered me up, featuring 400,000 bit part actors in the football equivalent of the stepford wives.

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Two quick points to make

I think the only 2 options on the table football-wise are (i) Hearts get relegated on basis of current points IF all clubs are to receive end of season payments OR (ii) the remaining games are played after the virus crisis passes, in which case they are favourites to go down and have 8 games to save their Prem status.

And regarding the politics, Scots are in the unique position of having the best NHS in these islands, the best education system, and a policy framework that has (over the past 13 years) protected public services much more than Down South. That there are c.50% of people (mostly the elderly) who take take take all that and STILL think England knows best just makes me despair for them, but we are in the best shape of any nation in these islands to handle what's coming (and it will be awful, but at a crisis time like this I for one am grateful that neither New Labour or the neo con Tories are anywhere near real power in Scotland). People have no idea how decimated the NHS is down south for example.

Stay safe everyone

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Spot on mate :thumbsup:

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You need to read the exact facts on this. You'll find in-fact, that Scotland has stood still in the rankings at position 13. Not bad a for tiny small country though eh!

The actual figures go onto show that if the UK was split into country rankings, England would be way below the Scottish ranking.

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They must have decided to take a risk for one sport or occasion that could result in others who have no interest in it being exposed. Makes no sense but gives them the dubious honour of having something in common with the UK's initial "strategy".

I like my horse racing but won't be heading over[emoji16]

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It's behind closed doors. :greengrin

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Behind closed doors. They should have done the same on the mainland too.