(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

Thankfully almost no one on here seems to be doing that.

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He's the bully who's usually the boss who will superimpose his view or off the cuff idea onto any meeting, however irrelevant or superfluous it is. Often the real solution doesn't get aired or is delayed.

He wants folk to know he's there and the top man, there's really no point in any of the experts being there, they probably get together afterwards and find a way forward like you say above. If it works or is credible the erse will bask in the reflected glory.

Generally there's no point in inviting the guy to meetings or having him involved with the experts and the doers. They could sit him outside with an ice cream, a few choice magazines and Tom & Jerry on TV, just a shame he's the president of the United States.

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Originally Posted by spike220

Still a better option than the Clintons!

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Originally Posted by spike220

Still a better option than the Clintons!

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Originally Posted by Future17

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In all seriousness it's a damning indictment on Hillary Clinton that she couldn't win the last election.

I've never come across someone who's less suited to being Head of State than Donald Trump and she still couldn't beat him.

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

In all seriousness it's a damning indictment on Hillary Clinton that she couldn't win the last election. I've never come across someone who's less suited to being Head of State than Donald Trump and she still couldn't beat him.

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She got more votes than him?

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

In all seriousness it's a damning indictment on Hillary Clinton that she couldn't win the last election.

I've never come across someone who's less suited to being Head of State than Donald Trump and she still couldn't beat him.

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Didn't she get 3 million more votes than him, something like that? :dunno:

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Originally Posted by grunt

She got more votes than him?

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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

Didn't she get 3 million more votes than him, something like that? :dunno:

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She did but even with the way the American elections work, I would have expected someone even remotely competent to have won that against Trump.

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

Why?

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Maybe because the Clinton's are linked with human trafficking and made regular visits to a known paedophiles private island.

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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

Didn't she get 3 million more votes than him, something like that? :dunno:

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Something that irks the **** out of Trump to this day.

TBH in a straight shootout that the American Presidential Elections are. It should be the popular vote.

The college system is a joke and disenfranchises millions of Americans.

I have family in Texas who are 100% Democrats. Yet their vote is ignored in the all or nothing college system In Red Texas.

J

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Originally Posted by spike220

It looks like he is shoe in for a second term. A lot if America support him. I dont think we are getting the full story from MSM on his presidency. He has made it very clear that he his at war with a lot of MSM.

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Don’t need to get any story from the media, everything I need to make my mind up about trump comes directly from his moronic, bigoted, narcissist mouth.

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

She did but even with the way the American elections work, I would have expected someone even remotely competent to have won that against Trump.

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It is all about the key swing states in the North - There is a band that runs Wisconsin-Indiana-Michigan-Ohio-Pennsylvania. They all went to the Republicans in 2016 but if the Democrats could turn three of them then they win.

Alternatively, if the Democrats can win Florida then they probably only need one of those northern states.

That’s all based on the other states opting the same way as they did in 2016 but most are set in stone. What could shift things in the South is Biden, who scores massively highly with black voters due to his time as Obama’s VP. That might be enough to swing a state his way. I still fancy Andrew Cuomo for a late run and if he goes with Kamala Harris on the ticket, then that creates the possibility of swinging a Southern state, which have been Republican for decades.

It is astonishing to hink that the South was a safe base for the Democratic Party for a long time.

You could bring any schmuck off the street and they’d do better than that roaster. I’d have said he was a certainty for a second term but bleachgate May finish him.

Purely for the folks on here who live in USA. Prior to Covid 19 in general was the USA from its own citizens pov in a better or worse state than previous regime?

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Originally Posted by Slavers

Maybe because the Clinton's are linked with human trafficking and made regular visits to a known paedophiles private island.

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yup anyone that spends 10 mins researching the Clintons online could figure that out. But lets put all our our faith in mainstream media.

https://youtu.be/MY8Nfzcn1qQ

Tip of the iceberg:

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Originally Posted by Bristolhibby

Something that irks the **** out of Trump to this day.

TBH in a straight shootout that the American Presidential Elections are. It should be the popular vote.

The college system is a joke and disenfranchises millions of Americans.

I have family in Texas who are 100% Democrats. Yet their vote is ignored in the all or nothing college system In Red Texas.

J

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Saved more lives that any president in living memory.

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Originally Posted by Slavers

Maybe because the Clinton's are linked with human trafficking and made regular visits to a known paedophiles private island.

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yup

That is why folks we end up with a silent majority. The minority still offended that democracy worked and Trump was elected. Then they tried and failed to impeach him!

But hey dont let the facts stand in the way of your emotions.

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

In all seriousness it's a damning indictment on Hillary Clinton that she couldn't win the last election.

I've never come across someone who's less suited to being Head of State than Donald Trump and she still couldn't beat him.

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In no way is he perfect just better than the establishment. One look to number 10 in London shows you everything you need. All friends playing on different teams.

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Originally Posted by spike220

That is why folks we end up with a silent majority. The minority still offended that democracy worked and Trump was elected. Then they tried and failed to impeach him!

But hey dont let the facts stand in the way of your emotions.

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The majority didn’t vote for Trump though.

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Originally Posted by Barney McGrew

The majority didn’t vote for Trump though.

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Democracy has spoken. The system has elected the president. By participating in the vote the people legitimized the electoral system. He came out on top. A large number of people must therefore have voted for him. Too late to agrue the process is flawed.

The silent majority is defined as: an unspecified large group of people in a country or group who do not express their opinions publicly. Nothing to do with vote margins.

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Originally Posted by spike220

That is why folks we end up with a silent majority. The minority still offended that democracy worked and Trump was elected. Then they tried and failed to impeach him!

But hey dont let the facts stand in the way of your emotions.

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I don’t see anyone offended that democracy worked....people are just rightly challenging the effectiveness and quality of him as a world leader. The fact he is creating more hate, inequality and prejudice will be recognised for many years to come.


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Originally Posted by spike220

Democracy has spoken. The system has elected the president. By participating in the vote the people legitimized the electoral system. He came out on top. A large number of people must therefore have voted for him. Too late to agrue the process is flawed.

The silent majority is defined as: an unspecified large group of people in a country or group who do not express their opinions publicly. Nothing to do with vote margins.

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There is no silent majority with Trump though. His supporters are every bit as vocal and proud of their allegiance as those who oppose him. As a movement they have legitimised the alt right and opinions that would have been considered taboo a few years ago are now openly expressed.

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Originally Posted by spike220

Democracy has spoken. The system has elected the president. By participating in the vote the people legitimized the electoral system. He came out on top. A large number of people must therefore have voted for him. Too late to agrue the process is flawed.

The silent majority is defined as: an unspecified large group of people in a country or group who do not express their opinions publicly. Nothing to do with vote margins.

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I didn’t argue anything.

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Originally Posted by spike220

Saved more lives that any president in living memory.

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please enlighten us...


the man is a bigot, a racist, a narcissist, an egotist, incapable of listening to advice or criticism, denies any opinion or position that doesn’t agree with his as fake news, speaks without any thought for the consequences of his words (the last few days alone show this), and is obsessed with everyone believing that he’s bigger, better, and more popular than any president ever. A dangerous collection of personality traits for someone holding the office he does

Spike220 you countered everyone’s opinion of trump apart from mine.
It was that we don’t need the media to form an opinion of him as a person as he directly shows his ego, lack of intelligence and narrow mindedness almost every time he speaks freely.
You did everyone else and I feel left out.

His Fake News Mantra as a tactic does my head in He chooses to stand up and at times ramble and attack others
But when he is picked up fir some of his ridiculous comments he doesn’t want to take the criticism
His comments were shown live on T V They are there fir all to hear
He then backtracks and makes up a pathetic excuse like it was a sarcastic comment to Wynd up a Hostile Fake Press Pack He can’t stand Women scoring a legitimate point against him and his dustbin and contempt fir them is clear to see
More worryingly he has spoken to Boris ( his great friend ) who will be back to lead us out of lockdown on Monday and they both agree they need to cooperate
So will be interesting to see the tact they both take now
Will Boris allow Flights to Alaska for his Tory Party Sponsors to allow them to eat out in a Restraunt ( Now that is clearly Sarcasm )


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Originally Posted by spike220

That is why folks we end up with a silent majority. The minority still offended that democracy worked and Trump was elected. Then they tried and failed to impeach him!

But hey dont let the facts stand in the way of your emotions.

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They tried to impeach him and failed because the servile republican senate prevented anything approaching a fair and open trial.

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Originally Posted by -Jonesy-

They tried to impeach him and failed because the servile republican senate prevented anything approaching a fair and open trial.

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:agree:

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Originally Posted by McD

please enlighten us...


the man is a bigot, a racist, a narcissist, an egotist, incapable of listening to advice or criticism, denies any opinion or position that doesn’t agree with his as fake news, speaks without any thought for the consequences of his words (the last few days alone show this), and is obsessed with everyone believing that he’s bigger, better, and more popular than any president ever. A dangerous collection of personality traits for someone holding the office he does

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I am interested until the Covid crisis what had Trump being in charge do to the way of life for us here? What effect has he had to our way of life in UK? More tax? Less wages? Economy issues? Are you as an individual worse off because of him?

How has our life in UK in changed from Obama to Trump? I am curious to know from both UK and how Americans are better or worse off.

Have people stopped visiting USA because of how bad he is?

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Originally Posted by Captain Trips

I am interested until the Covid crisis what had Trump being in charge do to the way of life for us here? What effect has he had to our way of life in UK? More tax? Less wages? Economy issues? Are you as an individual worse off because of him?

How has our life in UK in changed from Obama to Trump? I am curious to know from both UK and how Americans are better or worse off.

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Undermined international, co-operating, institutions. Purely for his own electoral gain. So yes, as an individual looking ahead, I'm worse off.

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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

Undermined international, co-operating, institutions. Purely for his own electoral gain. So yes, as an individual looking ahead, I'm worse off.

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Can you explain that please if you don't mind?